Florida Passes Plan For Racially-Based Academic Goals

[BudBro 183]

Palm Beach, Fla. (CBS TAMPA) – The Florida State Board of Education passed a plan that sets goals for students in math and reading based upon their race.

 

On Tuesday, the board passed a revised strategic plan that says that by 2018, it wants 90 percent of Asian students, 88 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanics and 74 percent of black students to be reading at or above grade level. For math, the goals are 92 percent of Asian kids to be proficient, whites at 86 percent, Hispanics at 80 percent and blacks at 74 percent. It also measures by other groupings, such as poverty and disabilities, reported the Palm Beach Post.

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no stereotypes being perpetuated there in flo-rida.

 

after doing some reading about the differences between the brains of girls and boys as they grow, it's clear if you have a boy in the public education system, he is being done a severe disservice. now florida is going to compound the problems by making more bureaucracy for teachers to deal with.

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By just reading the part posted that sounds like a goal percentage. It seams like the goal is to improve to those percentages from a lower current percent.

[The Moz 69]

And we wonder why the chinese are taking over

 

Soon Huawei is going to be bigger than Cisco if they aren't already

[Mungwater 597]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUwcCp7LPE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[BudBro 183]

By just reading the part posted that sounds like a goal percentage. It seams like the goal is to improve to those percentages from a lower current percent.

it reads that it wants 92% of asians to be at grade level proficiency and 78% of black kids to be at grade level proficiency.

[MDC 7,471]

And we wonder why the chinese are taking over

 

My stepdaughter goes to a magnet school that draws a lot of asian students from Chinatown. When I go to back to school night a lot of the time the parents speak no English whatsoever and their kids (7th grade now) have to translate for the teacher. Many if not most of these kids came over here speaking zero English and within a year they're straight A students. The chinese parents just don't fock around at all.

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it reads that it wants 92% of asians to be at grade level proficiency and 78% of black kids to be at grade level proficiency.

Yea, I get that. But if the asain kids are already at say 85% and the black kids are at say 65% is it equal to get the black kids to the same 92% in an equal amount of time?

[BudBro 183]

Yea, I get that. But if the asain kids are already at say 85% and the black kids are at say 65% is it equal to get the black kids to the same 92% in an equal amount of time?

i think it's saying it holds black kids to lower standards than asian kids, because black kids are holding down the schools' ability to gain funding because they aren't keeping up with current methods that grade accomplishment. it's an insult to black students and indicative of the current state of affairs in the national public education system.

[Bert 1,128]

My stepdaughter goes to a magnet school that draws a lot of asian students from Chinatown. When I go to back to school night a lot of the time the parents speak no English whatsoever and their kids (7th grade now) have to translate for the teacher. Many if not most of these kids came over here speaking zero English and within a year they're straight A students. The chinese parents just don't fock around at all.

 

It is a shame the Mexicans that come over here refuse to do the same.

[RLLD 4,247]

It's simply segregation and African Americans should not stand for this.

 

I see this happening at local schools with programs like STEM and IB, whites and Asians are getting their own classes which are indeed more challenging, while hispanics and blacks are clumped into the "general population" where they are permitted to be behave stupidly and learn next to nothing, then get passed into society to struggle economically while their white counterparts are able to leverage their better education to dominate.

 

Not entirely the schools fault, parents take much of the fall here. But the school system is certainly creating a segregated educational system.

[Mike Honcho 5,288]

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no stereotypes being perpetuated there in flo-rida.

 

after doing some reading about the differences between the brains of girls and boys as they grow, it's clear if you have a boy in the public education system, he is being done a severe disservice. now florida is going to compound the problems by making more bureaucracy for teachers to deal with.

 

 

By just reading the part posted that sounds like a goal percentage. It seams like the goal is to improve to those percentages from a lower current percent.

 

But the Florida Department of Education said the goals recognize that not every group is starting from the same point and are meant to be ambitious but realistic. As an example, the percentage of white students scoring at or above grade level (as measured by whether they scored a 3 or higher on the reading FCAT) was 69 percent in 2011-2012, according to the state. For black students, it was 38 percent, and for Hispanics, it was 53 percent.

 

 

 

Sheadtoo, correct

Budbro cherry picking.

[sheadtoo 1]

Sheadtoo, correct

Budbro cherry picking.

Sweet! Thanks for takin the time to read the story. Makes me feel like I wasn't talking out my @$$!

[BudBro 183]

Sweet! Thanks for takin the time to read the story. Makes me feel like I wasn't talking out my @$$!

sorry man. i read that part i guess. so, now i'm confused.

 

On Tuesday, the board passed a revised strategic plan that says that by 2018, it wants 90 percent of Asian students, 88 percent of white students, 81 percent of Hispanics and 74 percent of black students to be reading at or above grade level.

 

said the goals recognize that not every group is starting from the same point and are meant to be ambitious but realistic.

 

As an example, the percentage of white students scoring at or above grade level (as measured by whether they scored a 3 or higher on the reading FCAT) was 69 percent in 2011-2012, according to the state. For black students, it was 38 percent, and for Hispanics, it was 53 percent.

 

i will suppose they are talking about reading starting points, so whites start at 69 and must get to 88, blacks start at 38 and must get to 74, and hispanics start at 53 and must get to 81. that's +19, +36, and +28. i don't even know what to do with that.

 

i'm having trouble with a starting point. you can either read at grade level or you can't, regardless of your race (notice how they make it racial instead of gender based). it seems they are saying they expect 90% of asians, yet only expect 75% of black students to accomplish the goal of a 9th grader being able to read at 9th grade level, for example. i don't know how that's cherry picking. how am i not reading that correctly? we all start with the abc's, yet they don't think as many blacks can do it as can asians. so, are they saying that reading has socioeconomic boundaries? i can see how being proficient at golf may be impacted by social standards and economics, but all of these kids are exposed to the same 7 hour training session in a classroom listening to the same instruction. don't they write newspapers at 8th grade levels? you're attempting to tell me that only 38 in 100 9th grade black kids can read a newspaper? even if we take the "starting point" in mind, it will still be more difficult to get a +36% increase from one group than 19% from the other.

 

i don't know, i guess. something seems amiss. what i've learned, either way, is that the current system, not even this new one, is not designed with the biology of a boy's brain in mind. and scores and dropout rates of boys are indicative of a flaw in the methodology, not in the boys. we can continue to massage the numbers all we choose, but until a method takes into account biology differences in brain development, boys will always continue to underachieve in school.

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sorry man. i read that part i guess. so, now i'm confused.

 

 

 

i will suppose they are talking about reading starting points, so whites start at 69 and must get to 88, blacks start at 38 and must get to 74, and hispanics start at 53 and must get to 81. that's +19, +36, and +28. i don't even know what to do with that.

 

i'm having trouble with a starting point. you can either read at grade level or you can't, regardless of your race (notice how they make it racial instead of gender based). it seems they are saying they expect 90% of asians, yet only expect 75% of black students to accomplish the goal of a 9th grader being able to read at 9th grade level, for example. i don't know how that's cherry picking. how am i not reading that correctly? we all start with the abc's, yet they don't think as many blacks can do it as can asians. so, are they saying that reading has socioeconomic boundaries? i can see how being proficient at golf may be impacted by social standards and economics, but all of these kids are exposed to the same 7 hour training session in a classroom listening to the same instruction. don't they write newspapers at 8th grade levels? you're attempting to tell me that only 38 in 100 9th grade black kids can read a newspaper? even if we take the "starting point" in mind, it will still be more difficult to get a +36% increase from one group than 19% from the other.

 

i don't know, i guess. something seems amiss. what i've learned, either way, is that the current system, not even this new one, is not designed with the biology of a boy's brain in mind. and scores and dropout rates of boys are indicative of a flaw in the methodology, not in the boys. we can continue to massage the numbers all we choose, but until a method takes into account biology differences in brain development, boys will always continue to underachieve in school.

I broke down and read the piece, I still think the idea is a percent jump by each group maybe the numbers in the piece are wrong? I dunno but that is what I'm reading. If it's right, fair, or completely wrong....I'm not sure. I'm sure it was poorly described and sold to the public.

[GobbleDog 997]

It's simply segregation and African Americans should not stand for this..

Because of school zoning in Orlando, I went to a mostly black junior high school in the early 80's. So did a handful of lilly-white kids from a nearby rich neighborhood. The school had a form of legal segregation which they called "honors" classes. It basically separated whites from blacks in all classes. It's funny, the school was 80%+ black yet we had 1 black kid in our class of 30.

 

I wonder if they still do that today.?.