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The idea that we really are all worm food and nothing more when this life is over fills people with fear...

In fairness, that's not quite the whole picture. We're also a whole mess of a electro-chemical energy that's got to go somewhere, what with thermodynamics and all. I'd accept, "it dissipates," but we're not able to accept, "it stops existing," nor, "it never existed in the first place."

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So am I a lawyer or am I not? I'm so confused :cry:

If you are a lawyer you are the most ignorant lawyer I have ever run into. HTH

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Actually, nothing happens after you die. The soul is a mythical construct people believe in only because they cannot fathom the fact that nothing comes after death. The idea that we really are all worm food and nothing more when this life is over fills people with fear, so they cling to ancient scrolls found in caves that reassure them that yes, life doesn't end after death, you just go somewhere else, someplace better than this, and only good people will be there because all the bad people will be in a different place being punished for being bad.

Good theory, certainly possible - but just a theory all the same. :thumbsup:

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Good theory, certainly possible - but just a theory all the same. :thumbsup:

 

It's not a theory, it's just the application of logic.

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It's not a theory, it's just the application of logic.

An application of logic that has no proof - thus a theory.

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NEWTOWN, Conn. – The family of Noah Pozner was mourning the 6-year-old, killed in the Newtown school massacre, when outrage compounded their sorrow.

 

Someone they didn't know was soliciting donations in Noah's memory, claiming that they'd send any cards, packages and money collected to his parents and siblings. An official-looking website had been set up, with Noah's name as the address, even including petitions on gun control.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/20/victim-family-speaks-out-after-scammers-try-to-cash-in-on-newtown-tragedy/#ixzz2FcApBEs9

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An application of logic that has no proof - thus a theory.

 

:wacko:

 

Please explain to me how one goes about proving that there is no soul that goes somewhere else after death.

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NEWTOWN, Conn. – The family of Noah Pozner was mourning the 6-year-old, killed in the Newtown school massacre, when outrage compounded their sorrow.

 

Someone they didn't know was soliciting donations in Noah's memory, claiming that they'd send any cards, packages and money collected to his parents and siblings. An official-looking website had been set up, with Noah's name as the address, even including petitions on gun control.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz2FcApBEs9

 

Curlynight?

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:wacko:

 

Please explain to me how one goes about proving that there is no soul that goes somewhere else after death.

That's kind of the point. Nobody really actually knows one way or the other - including yourself. You formed a guess based on human logic - others have formed opinions based on scripture and faith. I guess we will all find out one day, maybe by then Apple will have figured out a way for us to log-in from the heavens and post about it.

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That's kind of the point. Nobody really actually knows one way or the other - including yourself. You formed a guess based on human logic - others have formed opinions based on scripture and faith. I guess we will all find out one day, maybe by then Apple will have figured out a way for us to log-in from the heavens and post about it.

 

Steve Jobs is up there working on it now.

 

Or else he's worm food.

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Actually, nothing happens after you die. The soul is a mythical construct people believe in only because they cannot fathom the fact that nothing comes after death. The idea that we really are all worm food and nothing more when this life is over fills people with fear, so they cling to ancient scrolls found in caves that reassure them that yes, life doesn't end after death, you just go somewhere else, someplace better than this, and only good people will be there because all the bad people will be in a different place being punished for being bad.

 

The mind, heart, soul, life, and person are all the same concept to the ancient Hebrew culture. In other words, the soul is what makes you who you are. The human soul does not consist of mass and energy like the human body and everthing else in the entire Universe does. You can't see the human mind or human soul on a cat scan or x-ray for example because it does not consist of mass and energy. But we know the human mind and soul still exist. Why are identical twins not the same person? They look the same, their DNA is the same, and yet they are totally different people? It's because they don't have the same mind and soul. Because the mind and soul is what makes you, you. If you were cloned, the person would not have the same mind and soul as you have, even though his DNA and appearance would match yours almost exactly.

 

The ancient Hebrew word for soul is נֶפֶשׁ(nephesh). It is used in the Bible 475 times for soul, 117 times for life, 29 times for person, 15 times for heart, and 15 times for mind. They are all the same concept. It's when a person tries to make thier soul out to be some ghost floating around is when the concept becomes absurd and goofy. And most religions have the idea that a soul can bee seen because it consists of mass and energy, which it does not. But it's because they don't know the synonyms and the grammatical origins of the word "soul". They are ignorant of what a "soul" is in the first place, so their religious beliefs about the soul look bat sh!t crazy in the process.

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I don't think the ancient Hebrews had X-Rays. Just saying.

 

What does this matter? Even if they did you can't x-ray the human mind or soul.

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Good, cause I liked Zen. :thumbsup:

 

I miss playing video games online with Zen. He, Frogassassin, and Brinett9 aka Sergeant Bri. Sarge would take screen shots of us playing Halo and photoshop shiit like anal lube in my character's back pocket then post it on Facebook. :lol:

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What does this matter? Even if they did you can't x-ray the human mind or soul.

Your understanding, you claim, comes from careful study of ancient Hebrew texts we heathen scum have no hope of comprehending. I simply find it odd that part of this understanding is that the soul is something that can't be X-rayed, and that it transcends DNA. The ancient Hebrews had to be into some pretty heavy occult shiz to see that far into the future.

 

It's almost as if even you are tempering your study with imperfect heathen knowledge born of man.

 

I don't know what to believe any more. :(

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Actually, yes I do. We all are brothers and sisters connected by cosmic consciousness, with electro-chemical souls, the care and maintenance of which are best served by performing good, liberal deeds here on Earth, in accordance with the guidance of the Jesus, the Buddha, and/or Earth Mother Gaia.

 

HALLELUJAH! All who hear and believe are saved! :pointstosky:

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Your understanding, you claim, comes from careful study of ancient Hebrew texts we heathen scum have no hope of comprehending. I simply find it odd that part of this understanding is that the soul is something that can't be X-rayed, and that it transcends DNA. The ancient Hebrews had to be into some pretty heavy occult shiz to see that far into the future.

 

It's almost as if even you are tempering your study with imperfect heathen knowledge born of man.

 

I don't know what to believe any more. :(

 

Gus. Dead or in Rockhard's basement?

 

TIA.

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Is this poetry? Because I don't get poetry.

 

Eaten or murdered?

 

Last seen at a coin operated coin machine trying to win stuffed animals

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Yeah, seems to be poetry.

 

More artsy types here than you'd expect from a right wing pep rally site.

 

You work security at the Scientologist Temple?

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The mind, heart, soul, life, and person are all the same concept to the ancient Hebrew culture. In other words, the soul is what makes you who you are. The human soul does not consist of mass and energy like the human body and everthing else in the entire Universe does. You can't see the human mind or human soul on a cat scan or x-ray for example because it does not consist of mass and energy. But we know the human mind and soul still exist. Why are identical twins not the same person? They look the same, their DNA is the same, and yet they are totally different people? It's because they don't have the same mind and soul. Because the mind and soul is what makes you, you. If you were cloned, the person would not have the same mind and soul as you have, even though his DNA and appearance would match yours almost exactly.

 

The ancient Hebrew word for soul is נֶפֶשׁ(nephesh). It is used in the Bible 475 times for soul, 117 times for life, 29 times for person, 15 times for heart, and 15 times for mind. They are all the same concept. It's when a person tries to make thier soul out to be some ghost floating around is when the concept becomes absurd and goofy. And most religions have the idea that a soul can bee seen because it consists of mass and energy, which it does not. But it's because they don't know the synonyms and the grammatical origins of the word "soul". They are ignorant of what a "soul" is in the first place, so their religious beliefs about the soul look bat sh!t crazy in the process.

 

As I said, it is a mythical construct devised to explain something that can not be explained.You just proved my point. Thanks.

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As I said, it is a mythical construct devised to explain something that can not be explained.You just proved my point. Thanks.

 

Modern 21st century science does not discount the existence of the human mind and soul. :dunno:

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Modern 21st century science does not discount the existence of the human mind and soul. :dunno:

 

Is that so? Of course there are scientific papers that you can point to proving the existence of the soul, yes?

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Modern 21st century science does not discount the existence of the human mind and soul. :dunno:

Hebrew texts from centuries BCE did not weigh in on matters of thermodynamics. :dunno:

 

It's almost like everyone here is full of shiz and just telling themselves tales to justify their beliefs and their delusions of grandeur. :dunno:

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You work security at the Scientologist Temple?

Keep people out or keep people in?

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Modern 21st century science does not discount the existence of the human mind and soul. :dunno:

Or of the flying spaghetti monster.

 

Therefore the flying spaghetti monster exists.

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Keep people out or keep people in?

 

Do you remember when he posted the pics of his walk with his son? The guard at the Scientologist temple...tough guy on a mountain bike....stared him down for taking pictures? Or the crazy Asian neighbor?

 

Fvck. I miss that guy.

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Or of the flying spaghetti monster.

 

Therefore the flying spaghetti monster exists.

 

:nono: The flying spaghetti monster consists of mass and energy.

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I miss playing video games online with Zen. He, Frogassassin, and Brinett9 aka Sergeant Bri. Sarge would take screen shots of us playing Halo and photoshop shiit like anal lube in my character's back pocket then post it on Facebook. :lol:

That wasn't Photoshopped. :ninja:

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I miss playing video games online with Zen. He, Frogassassin, and Brinett9 aka Sergeant Bri. Sarge would take screen shots of us playing Halo and photoshop shiit like anal lube in my character's back pocket then post it on Facebook. :lol:

 

Since Sarge is legally blind, I always imagined him squinting over each sentence we typed to read stuff. It's like my aunt, she's legally blind but has limited vision. I show her a picture, she has to shove it up close to her nose to see it but she can see it.

 

Anyways, you have to have pretty good vision to play a live action game like Halo. No way my aunt could do it.

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Anonymous declared they were going to destroy Westboro Baptist Church in reaction to the church claiming they would picket the funerals of the victims of the Connecticut school shootings. They hacked into the church's website, releasing the personal information of all church members, and took down the church's website and the Twitter account of Shirley Phelps-Roper.[

 

:cheers:

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:cheers:

Effin A. This is what i was alluding to with my original comments. I dont think the gov should stop the protesters as it is their rihht to free speech. I am for, however, the action of the people to show these clowns what they think of protesting a childs funeral. Anonymous may have focked up my playstation for a few days, but they get kudos in this instance. :thumbsup:

 

What happened to the gov taking down anonymous anyway? All talk those agents are.

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Effin A. This is what i was alluding to with my original comments. I dont think the gov should stop the protesters as it is their rihht to free speech. I am for, however, the action of the people to show these clowns what they think of protesting a childs funeral. Anonymous may have focked up my playstation for a few days, but they get kudos in this instance. :thumbsup:

 

What happened to the gov taking down anonymous anyway? All talk those agents are.

 

I'm mixed on how I feel about Anonymous. It's too complicated to explain. It always seems good to turn to a tyrant to take down the perceived aristocracy but we all know who tyrants turn out in the end. Anonymous is nothing different. Once Anonymous gains the ability to be untouched and have absolute power over cyberspace they will become absolutely corrupt.

 

Maybe it's my philosophy of finding the middle on everything but I don't trust Anonymous nor do I trust the government. There needs to be balance.

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I'm mixed on how I feel about Anonymous. It's too complicated to explain. It always seems good to turn to a tyrant to take down the perceived aristocracy but we all know who tyrants turn out in the end. Anonymous is nothing different. Once Anonymous gains the ability to be untouched and have absolute power over cyberspace they will become absolutely corrupt.

 

Maybe it's my philosophy of finding the middle on everything but I don't trust Anonymous nor do I trust the government. There needs to be balance.

Yeah not everything they do is righteous. They have stolen personal info on innocent people before and i am sure some do not hesitate to use that info for personal gain.

 

One thing that makes me nervous is turning everything we do into a tie point for the internet. When your stove can be controlled by clicking a button online what is to stop some hacker from trying to blow your house up? Maybe not this instance specifically but eventually similar shlt will happen.

 

Eventually people will become robitic in some way with implants to enhance senses or repair damaged parts of the body. It will probably be connected to some kind of network which could lead to someone hacking in. Anonymous will be the pioneersin trying to figure out the code.

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