Westboro Baptist Church plan to protest at Newtown CT funerals

[FeelingMN 273]

But don't you think that the media on all levels knows this? The only reason they even get any press is to exploit they are nuttier than squirrel turds.

 

Maybe. But I'm sure WBC is out there protesting wherever they can. Never hear about them unless it's a high profile event.....like what happened in Newtown. Lots of media in CT right now, so of course WBC is gonna get some play.

[tikigods 76]

Wow. Thats easy to say when its not your kid at that funeral. Sounds more like a "it doesnt affect me so who cares" approach. I know its not what you mean here, but it does sound like it.

 

Really? You know my life story or are you just assuming you're a walking plethora of knowledge? I'm getting the sense you are the typical liberal troll. I could be wrong and if so I apologize in advance for making a broad generalization about you.

[tikigods 76]

What are the Westboro Baptist church going to protest at the funerals of these children?

 

If you did any prior reading of this thread you would find a post that answers this question.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

What are the Westboro Baptist church going to protest at the funerals of these children?

 

Gheys and the general manner in which society does not live in strict accordance with their fundamentalist view of God's will.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

[FeelingMN 273]

I don't think it's a cry for attention. I think they believe that the publicity that comes along with these acts is the best way to get out their "message".

 

Could be. I'm not even sure what their message is.....is it something along the lines of what Huckabee was talking about in wiff's thread?

 

Actually, who cares. Fock'em.

[RLLD 4,275]

If they file the right documents and obtain the necessary permits then they do have a legal right under the constitution to voice their opinions.

 

I find them offensive, and I think their behavior to be absolutely contemptible. I think their actions could actually generate a response that could even imperil free speech.

 

That they lack common decency and use the ideal of faith as a weapon against those who are hurt and weak is just another example of how religion poisons society.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Could be. I'm not even sure what their message is.....is it something along the lines of what Huckabee was talking about in wiff's thread?

 

Yes, their message is basically just a more extreme version of what Huckabee says. Huckabee says we're all Godless heathens with a smile on his face. These guys do it whilst carrying torches and pitchforks.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,292]

Really? You know my life story or are you just assuming you're a walking plethora of knowledge? I'm getting the sense you are the typical liberal troll. I could be wrong and if so I apologize in advance for making a broad generalization about you.

I did say that i did not believe those were your intentions, just sounded like it. I think if i were a liberal troll i woupd be defending their every right to protest and be more on your side.

 

And you compared MLK and the marches of the oppressed to a bunch of religous nuts, that sounds more like trolling for a response.

[tikigods 76]

I did say that i did not believe those were your intentions, just sounded like it. I think if i were a liberal troll i woupd be defending their every right to protest and be more on your side.

 

And you compared MLK and the marches of the oppressed to a bunch of religous nuts, that sounds more like trolling for a response.

 

It's the same thing. MLK, Ghandi, KKK, or WBC.

[Casual Observer 597]

I did say that i did not believe those were your intentions, just sounded like it. I think if i were a liberal troll i woupd be defending their every right to protest and be more on your side.

 

And you compared MLK and the marches of the oppressed to a bunch of religous nuts, that sounds more like trolling for a response.

 

MLK was a religious nut too, wasn't he?

[Casual Observer 597]

If they file the right documents and obtain the necessary permits then they do have a legal right under the constitution to voice their opinions.

 

I find them offensive, and I think their behavior to be absolutely contemptible. I think their actions could actually generate a response that could even imperil free speech.

 

That they lack common decency and use the ideal of faith as a weapon against those who are hurt and weak is just another example of how religion poisons society.

 

Let me get this straight, one needs to file paperwork and get the necessary permits before exercising a constitutional right, but making folks obtain and show ID in order to vote is grossly oppressive and disenfranchising?

[cbfalcon 827]

It amazes me how brainwashed Americans are to protect and uphold the Constitution at all costs.

 

it's a piece of paper with some nice ideas for the time it was created. But acting like its some sort of be all end all guide to life that should be valued over any and all logic and common sense to what our country is and will become? Silly.

[FeelingMN 273]

If they file the right documents and obtain the necessary permits then they do have a legal right under the constitution to voice their opinions.

 

I find them offensive, and I think their behavior to be absolutely contemptible. I think their actions could actually generate a response that could even imperil free speech.

 

That they lack common decency and use the ideal of faith as a weapon against those who are hurt and weak is just another example of how religion poisons society.

 

Well said.....until the end. Religion can be a source of strength instead of division. I listened to Robbie Parker, father of one of the children murdered, address the media yesterday evening. He explained how important religion was for his family during this tragedy. Maybe it's on YouTube or something, but I was extremely proud of and inspired by that man. He is quite simply a better man than most of us could ever hope to be....and a big reason for that seems to be his faith.

 

Some of us use religion for good, some use it for bad....just like some of us can accomplish good without Jesus guiding us, and some are evil without Him. Don't think blanket statements address what ails our society.

[JTB 52]

Let me get this straight, one needs to file paperwork and get the necessary permits before exercising a constitutional right, but making folks obtain and show ID in order to vote is grossly oppressive and disenfranchising?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

it's a piece of paper with some nice ideas for the time it was created. But acting like its some sort of be all end all guide to life that should be valued over any and all logic and common sense to what our country is and will become? Silly.

 

Yer cute, Kid.

[tikigods 76]

it's a piece of paper with some nice ideas for the time it was created. But acting like its some sort of be all end all guide to life that should be valued over any and all logic and common sense to what our country is and will become? Silly.

 

The great thing about the Constitution is it allows you to have stupid opinions....just like the one you just expressed.

 

I love you liberals.

[cbfalcon 827]

The great thing about the Constitution is it allows you to have stupid opinions....just like the one you just expressed.

 

I love you liberals.

 

The better thing about the constitution is it absolves you from having to think.

 

"Um, cuz the piece of paper said so."

 

I am unsure if its laziness or lack of ability, but either way it's a problem solver for the non-thinkers. So that's kind of sweet.

[tikigods 76]

The better thing about the constitution is it absolves you from having to think.

 

"Um, cuz the piece of paper said so."

 

I am unsure if its laziness or lack of ability, but either way it's a problem solver for the non-thinkers. So that's kind of sweet.

 

Come on, man. I generally don't think of you as a moron but that statement is about as stupid as I've ever seen on this board. Do the right thing...go back and delete it. I'll delete this post, too.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,292]

MLK was a religious nut too, wasn't he?

I dont see the two as being comperable, but thats me. I dont remember reading about mlk leading a protest outside of a funeral where children had been gun down in their school. If your comparison is to how fanatical the two factions were then go ahead and rant away. It is this individual situation i am looking at.

[Casual Observer 597]

I dont see the two as being comperable, but thats me. I dont remember reading about mlk leading a protest outside of a funeral where children had been gun down in their school. If your comparison is to how fanatical the two factions were then go ahead and rant away. It is this individual situation i am looking at.

 

I'm not ranting. MLK caused a great deal of disturbance, unwelcome to many, in his time. Both cloaked their messages in religious terms.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Come on, man. I generally don't think of you as a moron but that statement is about as stupid as I've ever seen on this board. Do the right thing...go back and delete it. I'll delete this post, too.

 

He is, and he just doubled down on it.

[cbfalcon 827]

Come on, man. I generally don't think of you as a moron but that statement is about as stupid as I've ever seen on this board. Do the right thing...go back and delete it. I'll delete this post, too.

 

No need to delete. Even if I mouth off and occasionally make a moronic post, I know I'm quite far from being a moron. Nor do I think of you that way.

 

My quick opinion on the constitution. I'm not saying the ideas in the constition are stupid and should be tossed aside. I'm simply saying that the argument of "It's in the constitution, thus that right must be defended" is silly. Let an idea stand on its own merit, as oppose to being defended simply because of where it was written.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

I'm simply saying that the argument of "It's in the constitution, thus that right must be defended" is silly.

 

Sig worthy.

[FeelingMN 273]

I'm not ranting. MLK caused a great deal of disturbance, unwelcome to many, in his time. Both cloaked their messages in religious terms.

 

So did Osama Bin Laden. Surely we can make distinctions based on the actions of the respective "nuts" involved, no?

[cbfalcon 827]

Sig worthy.

 

Feel free. Your profile could use a thought that isn't prepackaged.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Feel free. Your profile could use a thought that isn't prepackaged.

Didn't need your approval, Dipshit.

 

Now, go do your homework.

[tikigods 76]

So did Osama Bin Laden. Surely we can make distinctions based on the actions of the respective "nuts" involved, no?

 

Osama Bin Laden killed people, bro .

 

Nor was he and American citizen.

[TheBlade 3]

No need to delete. Even if I mouth off and occasionally make a moronic post, I know I'm quite far from being a moron. Nor do I think of you that way.

 

My quick opinion on the constitution. I'm not saying the ideas in the constition are stupid and should be tossed aside. I'm simply saying that the argument of "It's in the constitution, thus that right must be defended" is silly. Let an idea stand on its own merit, as oppose to being defended simply because of where it was written.

Dude, your thoughts in this post and the one previous are dead wrong. The Constitution was written specifically to be a document to stand the test of time. All of our laws are supposed to written based on the Constitutional framework and be able to withstand Constitutional challenge. It's the very basis and foundation of our country.

 

The sad part is that your thought process is not unique to you. There are many liberals who believe just as you do, and I find this thought process to be one of the major problems of our government today and one of the biggest threats that our country and government faces moving forward.  

[cbfalcon 827]

Didn't need your approval, Dipshit.

 

Now, go do your homework.

 

Riffing off Tiki's suggestion of deleting posts....how often do you read what you've written and simply feel embarassed?

 

I'm not talking about being right or wrong about something. We all say idiotic things and are flat out wrong on occasion. But how often do you read your own words, and simply find yourself embarrassed at your actions, behavior, etc? And when this happens, do you ever consider trying to improve yourself? Or do you just think "It's just the Internet. I am anonymous. Who gives a fucck?"?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Riffing off Tiki's suggestion of deleting posts....how often do you read what you've written and simply feel embarassed?

 

I'm not talking about being right or wrong about something. We all say idiotic things and are flat out wrong on occasion. But how often do you read your own words, and simply find yourself embarrassed at your actions, behavior, etc? And when this happens, do you ever consider trying to improve yourself? Or do you just think "It's just the Internet. I am anonymous. Who gives a fucck?"?

It's good you recognize you should be embarrassed by that post. You should have taken the opportunity to delete, and or correct it, instead of doubling down on the stupid.

 

HTH

[cbfalcon 827]

It's good you recognize you should be embarrassed by that post. You should have taken the opportunity to delete, and or correct it, instead of doubling down on the stupid.

 

HTH

 

Believe it or not, I feel ok about the way I come across in these posts. How about you?

[Casual Observer 597]

So did Osama Bin Laden. Surely we can make distinctions based on the actions of the respective "nuts" involved, no?

 

What actions? MLK and WBC, both Christian, both preaching. I don't think either engaged in violence, terrorism or murder.

 

Bin Laden: different religion, different message, direct violent action.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Believe it or not, I feel ok about the way I come across in these posts. How about you?

I always feel OK after dishing out a major beatdown.

 

Thanks for asking.

[MDC 7,652]

I support their right to protest. And I hope a sniper opens fire on the whole lot of them.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,292]

I'm not ranting. MLK caused a great deal of disturbance, unwelcome to many, in his time. Both cloaked their messages in religious terms.

I didnt mean you were, just meant that wasnt what i was debating but feel free to go on if you feel you must prove the point. If we are going down that road we can compare about a thousand others that have cloaked their messages in religous terms. The stance i was taking has gone off course, i just dont like these POS zealots.

[cbfalcon 827]

I know I am probably guilty of it also, and its silly that I even have to say this...

 

But when you guys label any opinion that differs from your own as "stupid", "sad", quickly feel the need to label someone a liberal, and refer to any back and forth as you having "dishing out a major beatdown", it hurts your credibility in terms of being someone capable of intelligent debate.

 

I'd love to have a conversation about whether every idea in the constitution should be considered gospel...and if so, is that because its a legitimately timeless good idea, or are we just obligated to defend every idea in the constitution simply because its in the constitution.

 

But if you people were capable of an intelligent debate, you choose not to show it. So maybe some other time when more intelligent acting posters enter the thread.

[Gepetto 1,417]

But if you people were capable of an intelligent debate, you choose not to show it. So maybe some other time when more intelligent acting posters enter the thread.

 

 

You can give up on expecting an intelligent conversation from tikigods or from recliner pilot. Probably on the wrong forum for an intelligent conversation.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I know I am probably guilty of it also, and its silly that I even have to say this...

 

But when you guys label any opinion that differs from your own as "stupid", "sad", quickly feel the need to label someone a liberal, and refer to any back and forth as you having "dishing out a major beatdown", it hurts your credibility in terms of being someone capable of intelligent debate.

 

I'd love to have a conversation about whether every idea in the constitution should be considered gospel...and if so, is that because its a legitimately timeless good idea, or are we just obligated to defend every idea in the constitution simply because its in the constitution.

 

But if you people were capable of an intelligent debate, you choose not to show it. So maybe some other time when more intelligent acting posters enter the thread.

Good idea.

 

You sit on the edge of your seat and wait form someone to try to intelligently debate the position that Constitutional rights shouldn't be defended because.....ya know....the Constitution was written a long time ago.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

You can give up on expecting an intelligent conversation from tikigods or from recliner pilot. Probably on the wrong forum for an intelligent conversation.

Um, when someone makes the comment that Constitutional Rights shouldn't be defended because the Constitution is old, the "intelligent conversation" option left the barn already.

 

Such comments earn ridicule.

 

HTH

[TheBlade 3]

I know I am probably guilty of it also, and its silly that I even have to say this...

 

But when you guys label any opinion that differs from your own as "stupid", "sad", quickly feel the need to label someone a liberal, and refer to any back and forth as you having "dishing out a major beatdown", it hurts your credibility in terms of being someone capable of intelligent debate.

 

I'd love to have a conversation about whether every idea in the constitution should be considered gospel...and if so, is that because its a legitimately timeless good idea, or are we just obligated to defend every idea in the constitution simply because its in the constitution.

 

But if you people were capable of an intelligent debate, you choose not to show it. So maybe some other time when more intelligent acting posters enter the thread.

I'm waiting for a reply to mine, then. I said you were wrong, which is clearly my opinion, and then supported it. I did nothing else that you're complaining about.

 

So I'll await your intelligent reply. :popcorn: