BudBro 117 Posted January 28, 2013 Michel Sapin made the gaffe in a radio interview, which left French President Francois Hollande battling to undo the potential reputational damage. “There is a state but it is a totally bankrupt state,” Mr Sapin said. “That is why we had to put a deficit reduction plan in place, and nothing should make us turn away from that objective.” The comments came as President Hollande attempts to improve the image of the French economy after pledging to reduce the country’s deficit by cutting spending by €60bn (£51.5bn) over the next five years and increasing taxes by €20bn. Data from Banque de France showed earlier this month that a flight of capital has already left the country amid concerns that France’s Socialist leader intends to soak the rich and businesses. The actor Gérard Depardieu has renounced his French citizenship and decamped to Russia in protest, while David Cameron said Britain will “roll out the red carpet” to attract wealthy individuals. Pierre Moscovici, the finance minister, said the comments by Mr Sapin were “inappropriate”. the truth will set you free....and also make it where you're asked to leave the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 28, 2013 Link? www.moonbatnutswearingtinfoilhats.com BudBro's favorite blog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 28, 2013 http://www.nasdaq.com/article/france-is-totally-bankrupt-labour-minister-says-cm211537#.UQcLlb_oSJg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted January 29, 2013 Link? sorry link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted January 29, 2013 www.moonbatnutswearingtinfoilhats.com BudBro's favorite blog don't let reality scare you so much, worms. it's ok to be aware of your surroundings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted January 29, 2013 sorry link Thanks. I wanted to read the article and any related articles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted January 29, 2013 At least they can scratch up enough money to kick ass in Timbuktu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotesFromUnderground 0 Posted January 29, 2013 don't let reality scare you so much, worms. it's ok to be aware of your surroundings. Do you have some sort of personal vestment in France that would require it necessary to be aware of this surrounding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted January 29, 2013 Do you have some sort of personal vestment in France that would require it necessary to be aware of this surrounding? no, i have a personal investment in america, being that i live here. you voted for a guy who wants our system to be like the euro system....which is failing on all fronts. see how that works, there. if it doesn't work everywhere else, it won't work here either. likely too much for you to follow though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 no, i have a personal investment in america, being that i live here. you voted for a guy who wants our system to be like the euro system....which is failing on all fronts. see how that works, there. if it doesn't work everywhere else, it won't work here either. likely too much for you to follow though. I wasn't aware Obama wants the United States to join the European Union. That is unsettling. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 29, 2013 I wasn't aware Obama wants the United States to join the European Union. That is unsettling. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. He absolutely wants to shape social policy to align with the euro model. The HC debate was one of myriad examples Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted January 29, 2013 I wasn't aware Obama wants the United States to join the European Union. That is unsettling. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. you're being obtuse and obstinate...i get it. good work on the schtick. it's really coming along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 you're being obtuse and obstinate...i get it. good work on the schtick. it's really coming along. No, I'm pointing out that a big part of France's economic problems, and the problems of European countries in general, is the European Union. So even if the U.S. adopted the European system, which it should not and will not, it wouldn't necessarily result in France's economic situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 He absolutely wants to shape social policy to align with the euro model. The HC debate was one of myriad examples Obamacare really is not an example of a European model. It's a market-driven solution as opposed to, say, the national healthcare systems favored by European countries. The only real similarity is that the goal is universal or near-universal healthcare, but the means employed are very different. Can you provide any other examples? I really don't think that Obama wants to make us like Europe. I am sure there are some points of the European system that he admires, but I'm also sure that he is quite cognizant of the drawbacks as well. His vision is of American liberalism, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lackman 0 Posted January 29, 2013 No, I'm pointing out that a big part of France's economic problems, and the problems of European countries in general, is the European Union. So even if the U.S. adopted the European system, which it should not and will not, it wouldn't necessarily result in France's economic situation. France's major issues include the massive, crushing flood of immigrants, riots which nearly destroyed their entire country, the internal war against Muslim takeover, socialistic policies of government, and now the rich with all their money are fleeing the country due to oppressive taxes. France is focked. But, hey, France again voted in a socialist to run the joint, much like the U.S. So fock them, and soon it will be fock us. A relative lived in France for 20 years. They wouldn't want to fly over the country just to spit on it because it would be a waste of saliva. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 France's major issues include the massive, crushing flood of immigrants, riots which nearly destroyed their entire country, the internal war against Muslim takeover, socialistic policies of government, and now the rich with all their money are fleeing the country due to oppressive taxes. France is focked. But, hey, France again voted in a socialist to run the joint, much like the U.S. So fock them, and soon it will be fock us. A relative lived in France for 20 years. They wouldn't want to fly over the country just to spit on it because it would be a waste of saliva. Wouldn't it be a bigger waste of jet fuel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lackman 0 Posted January 29, 2013 Wouldn't it be a bigger waste of jet fuel? Could be a hot air balloon. Or a hang glider. Or they own a catapult with really good range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 Could be a hot air balloon. Or a hang glider. Or they own a catapult with really good range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted January 29, 2013 Obamacare really is not an example of a European model. It's a market-driven solution as opposed to, say, the national healthcare systems favored by European countries. The only real similarity is that the goal is universal or near-universal healthcare, but the means employed are very different. Can you provide any other examples? I really don't think that Obama wants to make us like Europe. I am sure there are some points of the European system that he admires, but I'm also sure that he is quite cognizant of the drawbacks as well. His vision is of American liberalism, imo. I think you can look at entitlement structures in france, italy and elsewhere in europe and see the similaries as we 'progress' towards them... Obama certainly didn't favor a market driven approach to HC, he wanted single payer as in europe, but couldn't politically pull it off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 29, 2013 I think you can look at entitlement structures in france, italy and elsewhere in europe and see the similaries as we 'progress' towards them... Obama certainly didn't favor a market driven approach to HC, he wanted single payer as in europe, but couldn't politically pull it off... He had a majority in both chambers of Congress. So if he wanted it, he sure didn't fight that hard for it. ...I guess he really is a wannabe Frenchman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted January 29, 2013 He had a majority in both chambers of Congress. So if he wanted it, he sure didn't fight that hard for it. ...I guess he really is a wannabe Frenchman And the bill as it was barely squeaked through. There's just no way a single payer bill would have made it through Congress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 29, 2013 He had a majority in both chambers of Congress. So if he wanted it, he sure didn't fight that hard for it. ...I guess he really is a wannabe Frenchman It's called Leading From Behind. This way Obama doesn't have to propose anything, fight for anything, or stand for anything. And he can blame someone else when it all goes to sh!t. Obama has mastered it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted January 29, 2013 The healthcare bill, the stimulus law, the GM prop-up are, among others, examples that fly in the face of your claim. Regardless of your opinion of the items above, they are examples of your inaccurate statement, RP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,562 Posted January 30, 2013 Could be a hot air balloon. Or a hang glider. Or they own a catapult with really good range. Put the catapult in the Swiss Alps, land in Belgium, I could see this... may be more fun way to travel than a mag-lev train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,893 Posted January 30, 2013 Isn't the US totally bankrupt too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 30, 2013 Isn't the US totally bankrupt too. Yep, and it just became worse, although I wasn't sure that was possible. My link Russia Issues “Critical Alert” For US As Billions Flee American Banks The MFA in issuing this extraordinary warning cites as one of its “sufficiently critical criteria” the mass withdrawal from the largest US banks this past week of $114.1 billion, the largest amount taken from these banks since the 11 September 2001 terror attacks, and which American financial experts have yet to explain because, in their words, they don’t why. Equally concerning the MFA, this report says, was Switzerland joining Germany, the Netherlands and Venezuela in demanding that their gold held in the vaults of the US Federal Reserve Bank in New York be repatriated, a move that has brought fear among many American financial experts as to its full implications. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 30, 2013 Yep, and it just became worse, although I wasn't sure that was possible. My link Russia Issues “Critical Alert” For US As Billions Flee American Banks You'd believe just about anything you read online, wouldn't you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted January 30, 2013 Isn't the US totally bankrupt too. Nah, we can print our currency. Plus this is all just a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 30, 2013 You'd believe just about anything you read online, wouldn't you? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure he is onto you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted January 30, 2013 La Cloward-Piven? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 30, 2013 You'd believe just about anything you read online, wouldn't you? Nope, but I know you will completely dismiss anything negative about Obama like a good Obamaroid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,145 Posted January 30, 2013 There has to be joke relating this to France not getting involved in wars, something like it's ironic they're broke since they rarely charge. Something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
