‘I’ll never be over being cheated out of the Super Bowl’

[tikigods 76]

do people really need to submit proof that the Pats cheated?

 

they were officially penalized for Chrissakes

 

it's more clear than whether or not O.J. slayed those people

 

You have proof the Patriots cheated to win Super Bowl?

[hoytdwow 202]

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[murf74 461]

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You have proof the Patriots cheated to win Super Bowl?

 

 

Goodell destroyed the proof. Why? Uh um uh duh.

 

But you are probably right Bill I Cheat only cheated during regular season games.

[tikigods 76]

Goodell destroyed the proof. Why? Uh um uh duh.

 

But you are probably right Bill I Cheat only cheated during regular season games.

 

 

Too bad we had to watch the refs cheat Seattle out of a Super Bowl.

[murf74 461]

 

Too bad we had to watch the refs cheat Seattle out of a Super Bowl.

 

How do 2 perceived bad calls, really only one http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ref-taking-super-mistakes-too-hard.... and....... http://www.footballoutsiders.com/every-play-counts/2006/epc-sean-locklear-and-22-uncalled-holds correlate to the Patriots cheating during a game.

Ill hang up and listen

[Joey Gladstone 33]

What really cheated Faulk was Martz stubbornly sticking to a pass heavy offense when The Pat's defense was clearly ready for just that. Faulk should be burning his ex coach for not giving him more carries. Law and Milloy were the real MVP's of that game.

[tikigods 76]

How do 2 perceived bad calls, really only one http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ref-taking-super-mistakes-too-hard.... and....... http://www.footballoutsiders.com/every-play-counts/2006/epc-sean-locklear-and-22-uncalled-holds correlate to the Patriots cheating during a game.

Ill hang up and listen

 

I'm still waiting on that link showing me the Patriots cheating in the Super Bowl.

 

I'll hang up and wait for a link.

[murf74 461]

I'm still waiting on that link showing me the Patriots cheating in the Super Bowl.

 

I'll hang up and wait for a link.

 

Goodell destroyed all the cheating proof....google it

[tikigods 76]

Goodell destroyed all the cheating proof....google it

 

Goodell claims the Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl?

[FlaHawker 24]

But they didnt cheat. Officiating isn't the same as a team flat out cheating.

 

Leavy admitted to blowing 2 penalties one of which was on Hasselback after he threw an INT. Big deal.

 

So Pit benefits from some calls in a game, but they didnt cheat. Seattle benefited by playing a one leg qb vs Washington, both situations a team benefits but is not sole reason of win or loss.

 

Your example is irrelevant to subject of cheating

My example was to simply show how blind you are. You talk about the Pats not being legitimate but claim SB XL as legitimate despite the fact that the ref came out said he blew the game. Talk about an illegitimate win. Don't go throwing stones from that glass house!

[murf74 461]

Goodell claims the Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl?

 

You are goodell and there is tapes from superbowl you do

 

A. Show the world and accept consequences

B. Destroy the tapes without showing anyone

 

There are some logical conclusions to make. You would like to assume Bill I Cheat only cheated in regular season (which is not logical conclusion)

 

Goodell left this open ended

[murf74 461]

My example was to simply show how blind you are. You talk about the Pats not being legitimate but claim SB XL as legitimate despite the fact that the ref came out said he blew the game. Talk about an illegitimate win. Don't go throwing stones from that glass house!

 

2 penalties Hawker. 2 penalties he admitted to blowing and you call that win illegitiment? Actually the fact that the ref admits to blowing only 2 calls actually legitimizes the game

 

You are correlating cheating to a team getting the favor on 2 calls.

 

[Dan 66]

My example was to simply show how blind you are. You talk about the Pats not being legitimate but claim SB XL as legitimate despite the fact that the ref came out said he blew the game. Talk about an illegitimate win. Don't go throwing stones from that glass house!

 

Good grief, will you ever get over this? One blown call, and two more that you as a Seahawks fan don't agree with, and the Super Bowl will be forever the cause for your nitro pills.

 

Let . . . it . . . go.

 

The ref admitted to blowing a call, not giving the game away. That was in the hands of the Seahawks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ironically, people in this thread are on Marshall Faulk for continuing to wonder about cheating that was "speculative," but has a lot of merit because of the conclusions that Goodell has left to be drawn. This poster is an example of why it's for a person to let these things go.

 

Get off Marshall Faulk's back already.

[tikigods 76]

You are goodell and there is tapes from superbowl you do

 

A. Show the world and accept consequences

B. Destroy the tapes without showing anyone

 

There are some logical conclusions to make. You would like to assume Bill I Cheat only cheated in regular season (which is not logical conclusion)

 

Goodell left this open ended

 

Goodell watched the tapes and concluded the Patriots did not tape the Rams walk through.

 

HTH.

 

I watched the refs steal a Super Bowl from Seattle. No tapes needed...watched with my own two eyes.

[murf74 461]

Goodell watched the tapes and concluded the Patriots did not tape the Rams walk through.

 

HTH.

 

I watched the refs steal a Super Bowl from Seattle. No tapes needed...watched with my own two eyes.

 

I am not talking about walkthru

 

I watched same superbowl Steelers won without the aid of videotapes and benefit of 2 blown calls on one drive so who cares

 

You think I care about 2 penalties in a 60 minute game?

[FlaHawker 24]

Goodell watched the tapes and concluded the Patriots did not tape the Rams walk through.

 

HTH.

 

I watched the refs steal a Super Bowl from Seattle. No tapes needed...watched with my own two eyes.

Muff watched it too. He showed his integrity by staying silent.

[tikigods 76]

Muff watched it too. He showed his integrity by staying silent.

 

Clearly. I still can't figure out how he can say the Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl, with no proof, while we all saw the refs fock over Seattle.

 

[FlaHawker 24]

Good grief, will you ever get over this? One blown call, and two more that you as a Seahawks fan don't agree with, and the Super Bowl will be forever the cause for your nitro pills.

 

Let . . . it . . . go.

 

The ref admitted to blowing a call, not giving the game away. That was in the hands of the Seahawks.

 

GFY

[murf74 461]

Muff watched it too. He showed his integrity by staying silent.

 

Sincerely sorry about the 2 blown penalties on one drive in superbowl.

 

Nfl will spot you 7 pts for that drive....

 

You still lost

 

Btw NFL admitted to blowing a call in Indy playoff game that year in favor of Indy. Steelers still won as champions can do

[FlaHawker 24]

Clearly. I still can't figure out how he can say the Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl, with no proof, while we all saw the refs fock over Seattle.

 

Steeler fans have a hard on for Brady and Belichick. Not sure why. But these so-called defenders of integrity are the biggest hypocrites going.

[tikigods 76]

Steeler fans have a hard on for Brady and Belichick. Not sure why. But these so-called defenders of integrity are the biggest hypocrites going.

 

It's because they can't beat them.

[murf74 461]

It's because they can't beat them.

For sure I have said that before. This and they admitted to cheating and was fined and penalized.

 

No secret

[Houston Texans 10]

I don't see the word "cheated" there, I see the word "mistake". He says he misinterpreted the rule, and even that is debatable as far as the literal wording of the rule - thus the "gray area". He also says he felt like it was not a big deal regardless since they never violated the intent of the rule, which was that any information gathered not be used during the playing of the game during which the information was gathered. That is what he would have considered a genuine violation of the intent of the rules, and he says they never did that.

OK, sematics guy. If a guy gets popped for 4 games for PEDs, and admits he made a mistake by taking a banned supplement, didn't he admit to cheating, even though he never used the word cheat?

[Houston Texans 10]

You, sir, are a focking idiot.

 

There was absolutely no proof, nor did the NFL conclude, that the Patriots cheated during a Super Bowl win. If you have "proof" of it, please post a link...otherwise shut the fock up and go back to crying over getting your ass handed to you TWICE by the Patriots

 

Whiner.

You, sir, are a focking idiot.

 

There is absolutely no proof, nor did the NFL conclude, that Ray Lewis cheated by using any banned substance during any point of his NFL career, much less during the 2012 season. If you have "proof" of it, please post a link...otherwise shut the fock up and go back to crying over getting your ass handed to you in the playoffs EVERY YEAR since the Spygate scandal.

 

Your "logic" works against you here, dumbass. You argued in another thread that a Ravens SB win should get an asterisk because SI suggests that Ray Lewis used a banned substance, yet don't want your precious Patriots to have to deal with the same stigma.

[tikigods 76]

shut the fock up and go back to crying over getting your ass handed to you in the playoffs EVERY YEAR since the Spygate scandal.

 

Hey window licker, how have the Texans done in the playoffs?

[FlaHawker 24]

Hey window licker, how have the Texans done in the playoffs?

Tiki...wait for it...Houston Texans roots for the Redskins

[tikigods 76]

Tiki...wait for it...Houston Texans roots for the Redskins

 

 

No doubt

[Dan 66]

Hey window licker, how have the Texans done in the playoffs?

 

Wait, did you really just pull the "your team sucks, what you say is stupid" card?

 

Well, with that intelligent response, how can anyone possibly refute what you say?

 

o.O

[Houston Texans 10]

Hey window licker, how have the Texans done in the playoffs?

The Texans have won the exact same number of SuperBowls as the Patriots have since they admitted to cheating.

[murf74 461]

The Texans have won the exact same number of SuperBowls as the Patriots have since they admitted to cheating.

 

as did the Browns, the Seahawks, the Lions....

 

Oh wait none of them have ever won a superbowl....

[ralphster 274]

Wait, did you really just pull the "your team sucks, what you say is stupid" card?

 

Well, with that intelligent response, how can anyone possibly refute what you say?

 

o.O

 

That made me laugh Dan. Like the rest of Tiki's responses on the Pats and needing proof of cheating.

[parrot 789]

OK, sematics guy. If a guy gets popped for 4 games for PEDs, and admits he made a mistake by taking a banned supplement, didn't he admit to cheating, even though he never used the word cheat?

 

Sure he did. I'm not sure what that has to do with Belichick's statements that he misenterpreted the rules, but hey, point you on your totally irrelevant analogy.

[kmbryant09 1]

Sure he did. I'm not sure what that has to do with Belichick's statements that he misenterpreted the rules, but hey, point you on your totally irrelevant analogy.

Sorry to interject, but Tiki has not admitted that the Patriots cheated. Plain and simple. He keeps throwing around this terminology "violated the rules", etc. and says that they never "C-H-E-A-T-E-D". Now he's saying they didn't "cheat to win a SB".

 

In fact, I tried asking the simple question "did the Patriots cheat" about 6 times to him, and he still hasn't give a Yes or No answer.

 

Yet, the second any news story comes out about Ray Lewis potentially taking a banned substance, Tiki is in uproar claiming that he cheated and they don't deserve the SB.

[tikigods 76]

Sorry to interject, but Tiki has not admitted that the Patriots cheated. Plain and simple. He keeps throwing around this terminology "violated the rules", etc. and says that they never "C-H-E-A-T-E-D". Now he's saying they didn't "cheat to win a SB".

 

In fact, I tried asking the simple question "did the Patriots cheat" about 6 times to him, and he still hasn't give a Yes or No answer.

 

Yet, the second any news story comes out about Ray Lewis potentially taking a banned substance, Tiki is in uproar claiming that he cheated and they don't deserve the SB.

 

Clearly you read the title of this thread.

 

I'm amazed at how much you guys like tonguing the Patriot nutsack. It must be sad your teams suck so much all you have are darts to throw at other teams.

 

I weep for you. I really do.

[parrot 789]

Sorry to interject, but Tiki has not admitted that the Patriots cheated. Plain and simple. He keeps throwing around this terminology "violated the rules", etc. and says that they never "C-H-E-A-T-E-D". Now he's saying they didn't "cheat to win a SB".

 

In fact, I tried asking the simple question "did the Patriots cheat" about 6 times to him, and he still hasn't give a Yes or No answer.

 

Yet, the second any news story comes out about Ray Lewis potentially taking a banned substance, Tiki is in uproar claiming that he cheated and they don't deserve the SB.

 

I don't really know what you're talking about. My post had nothing to do with Tiki. I was responding to some guy trying to make Bill Belichick's statements on what transpired analogous to a player admitting to taking PEDs.

 

For the record; I agree completely with Tiki, and it's debatable whether they even violated any rules.

[tikigods 76]

I don't really know what you're talking about. My post had nothing to do with Tiki. I was responding to some guy trying to make Bill Belichick's statements on what transpired analogous to a player admitting to taking PEDs.

 

For the record; I agree completely with Tiki, and it's debatable whether they even violated any rules.

 

His argument was that I never admitted that that Patriots cheated...in the Bill Crybaby thread. He obviously didn't read the thread, nor my comments in that thread but interjected himself into a conversation like Internet Tough Guy riding his white steed.

 

The Patriots did not cheat in the Super Bowl. Goodell is on record saying so. All these trolling losers can't get past themselves because their teams blow and all they have is making fun of a team that has won at an 80% clip since Spygate.

 

The funniest thing is saying the Patriots haven't won a big game. Selective memory on the 2011 AFC Championship game...or beating the sh1t out of Houston TWICE.

 

These goons make me laugh.

[Dan 66]

 

 

The Patriots did not cheat in the Super Bowl. Goodell is on record saying so. All these trolling losers can't get past themselves because their teams blow and all they have is making fun of a team that has won at an 80% clip since Spygate.

 

 

 

I'm sorry. Exactly what was he supposed to say? Or are you going to pretend that he employs no spin or diplomacy in anything he does? This is the heart of weak arguing that drives NFL fans nuts. You are being deliberately naive . . . but only on this point, because it suits your argument.

[tikigods 76]

I'm sorry. Exactly what was he supposed to say? Or are you going to pretend that he employs no spin or diplomacy in anything he does? This is the heart of weak arguing that drives NFL fans nuts. You are being deliberately naive . . . but only on this point, because it suits your argument.

 

Are you fvcking retarded?

 

I'm actually seriously asking you.

 

Goodell and the NFL said the Patriots did not cheat in the Super Bowl and you're saying....what exactly? They did even though there is absolutely nothing you can produce that said they did?

 

If you're going to continue to fondle my prostate, I expect a kiss afterwards.

 

TIA.

[Houston Texans 10]

Sure he did. I'm not sure what that has to do with Belichick's statements that he misenterpreted the rules, but hey, point you on your totally irrelevant analogy.

BB cheated, and knew he cheated, but is too stubborn to come flat out and say "I cheated," so he says "I misinterpreted" the rules. PED users cheats, know he cheats, but is too stubborn to come flat out and say "I cheated," so he says "I used a supplement that I didn't know wasn't allowed." Both cheated, both admitted they cheated, but neither actually used the word cheated.

 

Wow, can't believe I had to explain that to you, but hey, at least your mom is letting you use the big-boy computer now.

[tikigods 76]

BB cheated, and knew he cheated, but is too stubborn to come flat out and say "I cheated," so he says "I misinterpreted" the rules. PED users cheats, know he cheats, but is too stubborn to come flat out and say "I cheated," so he says "I used a supplement that I didn't know wasn't allowed." Both cheated, both admitted they cheated, but neither actually used the word cheated.

 

Wow, can't believe I had to explain that to you, but hey, at least your mom is letting you use the big-boy computer now.

 

Oh look, Captain Cries-A-Lot.

 

Still butt hurt over the Patriots beating the fvck out of your team....TWICE.

 

 

Go put a tampon in your bagina, tough guy.