Military drones allowed to kill Americans...

[nikki2200 4]

I watch mostly MSNBC(So I could have missed it) and have not seen a single person critical of this nor have I seen anyone say Obama should be tried for war crimes. In fact, they act like this makes Obama some kind of tough guy. They remind us how Bush started this, so that gives Obama a pass.

 

Now you can say you do not support this and that is great, glad to see you are finally consistent. However, when Bush did it, folks were wanting him impeached over it. Now those same folks are now giving excuses as to why it is okay when Obama does it, but when Bush did it, it was crimes against humanity.

 

And hey, If you were critical of Bush and Obama on this particular issue, that means I am not talking about you. I am simply talking about the left in general.

 

I provided examples of some of the most prominent MSNBC personalities that have been critical of it. But your limited experience - even though you watch "mostly" MSNBC - musta missed all that stuff.

 

Stop lying. You subscribe to the train of thought that automatically assumes anyone who is a "liberal" is automatically going to back their god Obama. There is no other reasonable explanation for the uniformed crap you are spewing.

 

 

I've been noticing that also on MSNBC. Guess they are going against their core beliefs to try one last desperate lunge for ratings.

Doubt it will work.

 

THIS is what I was responding to - Sux pretending he has a clue about what the difference between being a liberal and being a conservative is. Because he is 1000% wrong.

 

WOW.

 

Again, NO. How in the hell......

 

You are still confused. Even more so actually. They couldn't wait to report on how evil Bush was and how he should be impeached, was a war criminal, nightly war death updates. With Obama, they have barley mentioned it for years. Only recently have they started being critical using words like aggressive policy. Still nowhere near the vitriol shown towards Bush. And no, I am not saying the media was bad or wrong for hammering Bush. Just pointing out the double standard that is eluding the fock out of you.

 

I am not the one that is confused.

 

Just so there's no further confusion, who exactly is "they" in your generalized observations of all liberals? "They" who?

 

If you want I can provide some more examples of liberals (even MSNBC ones) being extremely pissed off about Obama's drone policy, his failure to close Gitmo, and his killing of that terrorist in Yemen that happened to be born in the US, that has occurred prior to this past week. I have no idea what vitriol you are talking about, because unlike you, I don't waste my time watching trash like MSNBC. And now you are declaring it wasn't MSNBC so I really have no idea who "they" are. But I'm pretty sure even Chris Matthews completely turned against Obama PRIOR to the election because he wasn't "liberal" enough when it came to certain issues like war and defense. The war crimes thing that Bush was being attacked on was about torture and the treatment of POWs, because that is covered under International Human Rights laws, supported by the UN, and a lot of people found it disgusting and illegal by international standards that we were partaking such things. But Obama hasn't continued the torture so it's hard to predict whether the reaction would have been similar if Obama had done this. I have no idea. And like I said, I don't watch MSNBC in the first place. But maybe we aren't talking about MSNBC and we are talking about an elusive unidentifiable "they". I can't help you with that one unless you specifically tell me who you are talking about. Not generally.

 

I will re-iterate that anyone who is vehemently against the Obama drone policy has joined the ranks of the ACLU, and the types of people that were protesting at Hagel's confirmation hearings about murder, in their liberal cause to ensure due process for everyone - even the terrorists. Or maybe you missed those "liberal" protesters. I guess they don't fall into your general "they".

[SUXBNME 1,594]

So the liberals have always been in favor of government taking action against citizens with no due process and they are now changing their core value system to say it's not OK in a desperate attempt to improve ratings?

 

 

omgwut?

 

 

Seriously. Stick with the cat videos.

Learn how to read before you react. hth

 

Here's a kat link for you.

[nikki2200 4]

Learn how to read before you react. hth

 

Here's a kat link for you.

 

What specifically did I read incorrectly when you said:

 

I've been noticing that also on MSNBC. Guess they are going against their core beliefs to try one last desperate lunge for ratings.

Doubt it will work.

 

Were you or were you not saying that MSNBC was changing their "core beliefs" to "try one last desperate lunge for ratings"? And I assumed (which I could have assumed incorrectly because it is very difficult to figure out what the fock your point is when you veer outside of cat videos) when you said "core beliefs" you were talking about such things as due process for all prisoners of the US and you are suggesting that they (liberal MSNBC) were somehow changing those "core beliefs" by saying they were advocates of civil liberties now, and that varied from their previous liberal stance of being against civil liberties when it came to terrorists, in a desperate attempt to boost ratings due to the rampant fad of conservatism in this country. And if I interpreted your stance correctly, you really have no concept of what the "core beliefs" of liberals versus conservatives are. But I think you've already established that on multiple occasions.

 

In Suxland.... Obama is good = "liberal"; Obama is bad = "conservative". It would be really nice to live in a brain that simple. Like Forrest Gump. Idiocy is bliss. Or somesuch saying.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,317]

What specifically did I read incorrectly when you said:

 

 

 

Were you or were you not saying that MSNBC was changing their "core beliefs" to "try one last desperate lunge for ratings"? And I assumed (which I could have assumed incorrectly because it is very difficult to figure out what the fock your point is when you veer outside of cat videos) when you said "core beliefs" you were talking about such things as due process for all prisoners of the US and if you are suggesting that they (liberal MSNBC) were somehow changing those "core beliefs" by saying they were advocates of civil liberties now, and that varied from their previous liberal stance of being against civil liberties when it came to terrorists, in a desperate attempt to boost ratings due to the rampant fad of conservatism in this country. And if I interpreted your stance correctly, you really have no concept of what the "core beliefs" of liberals versus conservatives are. But I think you've already established that on multiple occasions.

 

In Suxland.... Obama is good = "liberal"; Obama is bad = "conservative". It would be really nice to live in a brain that simple. Like Forrest Gump. Idiocy is bliss. Or somesuch saying.

Not many union members i work with like obama and most of us are liberal. We knew we would like romney even less so its the age old question, do you vote for a douche bag or a turd sandwich?

[nikki2200 4]

Not many union members i work with like obama and most of us are liberal. We knew we would like romney even less so its the age old question, do you vote for a douche bag or a turd sandwich?

 

Unpossible!!!

 

Gocolts and Sux saw it on MSNBC. If you are liberal you love Obama. Stop lying.

 

And drone killings!!! Huzzah!!!

 

 

Now I think I'm actually #doingitrite.

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Nikki is up to about 5 posts defending MSNBC.

 

It's about time for her to pull out this line:

 

It's just not really on my top ten list of things I give a shiit about.

[DankNuggs 305]

I think I prefer Obama call it the O-train rather than BOOBS ops...

 

"Send in the O-Train"

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Nikki is up to about 5 posts defending MSNBC.

 

It's about time for her to pull out this line:

 

I think Nikki doesn't care about drone strikes or MSNBC per se, she just cares about pointing out what focking morons you are.

 

Does it hurt getting beaten by a woman?

[DankNuggs 305]

What specifically did I read incorrectly when you said:

 

 

 

Were you or were you not saying that MSNBC was changing their "core beliefs" to "try one last desperate lunge for ratings"? And I assumed (which I could have assumed incorrectly because it is very difficult to figure out what the fock your point is when you veer outside of cat videos) when you said "core beliefs" you were talking about such things as due process for all prisoners of the US and you are suggesting that they (liberal MSNBC) were somehow changing those "core beliefs" by saying they were advocates of civil liberties now, and that varied from their previous liberal stance of being against civil liberties when it came to terrorists, in a desperate attempt to boost ratings due to the rampant fad of conservatism in this country. And if I interpreted your stance correctly, you really have no concept of what the "core beliefs" of liberals versus conservatives are. But I think you've already established that on multiple occasions.

 

In Suxland.... Obama is good = "liberal"; Obama is bad = "conservative". It would be really nice to live in a brain that simple. Like Forrest Gump. Idiocy is bliss. Or somesuch saying.

Liberals believe in the omnipotence of central planning. Decision making is considered optimal when put in the hands of a few super powerful bureaucrats.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

 

Does it hurt getting beaten by a woman?

I'll let you know if it ever happens, Matlock.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

I'll let you know if it ever happens, Matlock.

 

Good one! Man is my face red

[DankNuggs 305]

Conservatives rightfully compare the tyranny of government power with the tyranny of monopolistic power. Competition provides the best for the end user in all walks of life.

[MDC 7,737]

Serious question:

 

With the exception of Ron Paul, every legitimate GOP candidate and the eventual nominee in 2012 criticized Obummer for not being hawkish enough. Does anyone think a president Romney wouldn't be using drone strikes and asserting the same authority to do so against "enemy combatants" who are US citizens today if he won?

[SUXBNME 1,594]

Wow Nikki...When did you turn into such a kunt?

 

Try letting Papa Smurf be on top for a change. You might like it.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Wow Nikki...When did you turn into such a kunt?

 

Try letting Papa Smurf be on top for a change. You might like it.

Sept 10, 2004

[nikki2200 4]

Sept 10, 2004

 

OMG you can't even read a date format correctly. OMG.

 

 

:lol: :lol:

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Serious question:

 

With the exception of Ron Paul, every legitimate GOP candidate and the eventual nominee in 2012 criticized Obummer for not being hawkish enough. Does anyone think a president Romney wouldn't be using drone strikes and asserting the same authority to do so against "enemy combatants" who are US citizens today if he won?

 

Stop trying to paint them into a corner with your liberal trickery

[gocolts 300]

I think Nikki doesn't care about drone strikes or MSNBC per se, she just cares about pointing out what focking morons you are.

 

Does it hurt getting beaten by a woman?

LOL, yeah, she really owned in this thread coming in confused as fock from the get go and not being able to follow along a simple conversation. Desperately trying to find words and meanings that nobody posted to begin with. I especially liked the part where she claims the media is not in the tank for her boy Obama and even MSNBC hates him now. It's as if this woman hasn't watched a news program in over a decade.

[nikki2200 4]

Wow Nikki...When did you turn into such a kunt?

 

Try letting Papa Smurf be on top for a change. You might like it.

 

 

If you were unarmed to challenge me in a batlte of wits, perhaps you shouldn't have jumped in here crawling up RP's ass and trying to make fun of me.

 

 

Cue the overly hysterical menstrual jokes. Or maybe you can mention man hands. Or something else equally hilarious.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

LOL, yeah, she really owned in this thread coming in confused as fock from the get go and not being able to follow along a simple conversation. Desperately trying to find words and meanings that nobody posted to begin with. I especially liked the part where she claims the media is not in the tank for her boy Obama and even MSNBC hates him now. It's as if this woman hasn't watched a news program in over a decade.

 

I don't think she ever said MSNBC hates Obama. She merely pointed out that they have been critical of him on this issue, in direct contradiction of your claim that they were constantly defending him on the drone strikes.

 

It is possible to disagree strongly on an issue and still generally back a president. Take your boy Ronnie Reagan: did you agree with him selling weapons to Iran to fund the Nicaraguan contras? I highly doubt you did, but you still approved of him generally.

[SUXBNME 1,594]

If you were unarmed to challenge me in a batlte of wits, perhaps you shouldn't have jumped in here crawling up RP's ass and trying to make fun of me.

 

 

Cue the overly hysterical menstrual jokes. Or maybe you can mention man hands. Or something else equally hilarious.

Yea, ok

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Serious question:

 

With the exception of Ron Paul, every legitimate GOP candidate and the eventual nominee in 2012 criticized Obummer for not being hawkish enough. Does anyone think a president Romney wouldn't be using drone strikes and asserting the same authority to do so against "enemy combatants" who are US citizens today if he won?

Serious answer, I honestly do not recall anyone saying in 2012 that he was not "hawkish enough". It would have been foolish, since he has the Bin Laden card to play. If anything, since "Arab Spring", they have been consistent in their opposition to his methods.

 

Would Romney be using drones? Probably. Would every media outlet in the world be condemning him? Definitely.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

OMG you can't even read a date format correctly. OMG.

 

 

:lol: :lol:

Haha.

 

Just glanced at it, but I will stand by the date.

 

Your level of biotchiness takes at least 8 years to perfect. Prolly closer to 40.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Serious answer, I honestly do not recall anyone saying in 2012 that he was not "hawkish enough". It would have been foolish, since he has the Bin Laden card to play. If anything, since "Arab Spring", they have been consistent in their opposition to his methods.

 

Would Romney be using drones? Probably. Would every media outlet in the world be condemning him? Definitely.

 

Did you miss the whole "leading from behind!!" chant, Timmy?

[MDC 7,737]

Serious answer, I honestly do not recall anyone saying in 2012 that he was not "hawkish enough". It would have been foolish, since he has the Bin Laden card to play. If anything, since "Arab Spring", they have been consistent in their opposition to his methods.

 

If I remember right Romney and most of the GOP criticized Obummer for his failure to support rebels in the Arab Spring, not taking a hardline enough stance against Iran, his insufficient support for Israel, for being an appeaser, projecting weakness, etc.

 

Would Romney be using drones? Probably. Would every media outlet in the world be condemning him? Definitely.

 

I guess this is what I'm trying to establish: The vast majority of you aren't complaining that Obummer is using drones or that the admin asserted its right to use them against US citizens, because you voted for a guy who almost certainly would've been doing the same thing. You're complaining that the media hasn't been hard enough on Obummer because he's a democrat.

 

So basically this isn't a discussion about foreign policy at all. It's just the umpteenth whinefest about how Obummer gets a free pass for continuing roughly the same policies that the media used to slam Bush for.

 

Which may be true and all, but it seems to me that the media is no more hypocritical than your average FFTer who couldn't really give a sh1t about this stuff at all but now gets worked up into a daily lather about how unfair it all is.

 

It's at this point that I stop taking these complains seriously and just sort of chuckle and walk away.

[Finbabble Garp 1]

Take your boy Ronnie Reagan: did you agree with him selling weapons to Iran to fund the Nicaraguan contras?

He did not remember doing that.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Did you miss the whole "leading from behind!!" chant, Timmy?

Perhaps the Obama administration should not say such stupid things.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

If I remember right Romney and most of the GOP criticized Obummer for his failure to support rebels in the Arab Spring,

Didn't happen, in fact the opposite happened.

 

not taking a hardline enough stance against Iran

meh, maybe, no one knows what to do about them.

 

his insufficient support for Israel,

true, but not for the reasons everyone thinks.

 

for being an appeaser

Domestically? Sure. Internationally? Not so much.

 

projecting weakness

meh, standard political stuff, left does the opposite.

 

It's at this point that I stop taking these complains seriously and just sort of chuckle and walk away.

Nice try, welcher.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

He did not remember doing that.

 

His memory was about as good as Timmy Smiff's

[MDC 7,737]

Didn't happen, in fact the opposite happened.

 

meh, maybe, no one knows what to do about them.

 

true, but not for the reasons everyone thinks.

 

Domestically? Sure. Internationally? Not so much.

 

meh, standard political stuff, left does the opposite.

 

Nice try, welcher.

 

 

Everything I posted is out there on the internet. You're either a liar or woefully uninformed. Either way you're a crybaby whiner.

[drobeski 3,061]

Not many union members i work with like obama and most of us are liberal. We knew we would like romney even less so its the age old questibon, do you vote for a douche bag or a turd sandwich?

Union members vote who their leadership tells them to vote for.

Very few stray from what the boss tells them to do.

Amazingly they always seem vote for who can bilk the tax payer the most.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Everything I posted is out there on the internet.

Well then, it must be true.

 

You are in good company.

 

[MDC 7,737]

Well then, it must be true.

 

You are in good company.

 

Aaaaaaand the forearm's poster child for always putting politics above policy chimes in. I haven't been this surprised since you peenied the FBI van thread and waited months before claiming it was a fishing trip.

 

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Aaaaaaand the forearm's poster child for always putting politics above policy chimes in.

How was that a political post, Cletus?

 

I haven't been this surprised since you peenied the FBI van thread and waited months before claiming it was a fishing trip.

 

Link to me claiming that thread was a fishing trip? This should be good.

[MDC 7,737]

How was that a political post, Cletus?

 

Link to me saying your post was political?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Everything I posted is out there on the internet. You're either a liar or woefully uninformed. Either way you're a crybaby whiner.

Ah yes, the internet, the fountain of truth.