Home field advantage pts

[Agame 2]

Our league is thinking about offering 0.5 point for the team playing at home. Nothing major. Just something that will help prevent ties and "slightly" reward the team playing at home. Does this sound like a good idea?

 

[roroco 75]

At .5 points... why bother? Seems like a throwaway amount to me. If you are using fractional points (which you should be), ties won't be an issue for the most part. 10 years playing and I have never seen a tied game with fractional points.

 

If you want home team advantage, make it 3 points at least - or don't bother.

[Superdude 4]

As long as there is an equal number of home games as away games. If your schedule is 13 weeks, your kinda screwed.

[GridironGuzzlers 3]

obviously in fantasy sports there is no "home" team. However, in the playoffs you may want to give the home team points to reward the higher seed

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

To avoid ties, this is exactly what we have in our rules. Tie goes to home team.

[montana 89]

Why not use decimal scoring?

 

Switched to it about 4 years ago & have yet had a tie.

[Thornton Melon 544]

Our league is thinking about offering 0.5 point for the team playing at home. Nothing major. Just something that will help prevent ties and "slightly" reward the team playing at home. Does this sound like a good idea?

 

 

No

[mgs316 14]

Regular season, ties are fine, makes the standings more fun and complicated.

 

Playoffs, higher seed gets home field and breaks a tie.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Im all for it. We use bench points to break ties but .5 is a fine idea.

[seadog54 20]

At .5 points... why bother? Seems like a throwaway amount to me. If you are using fractional points (which you should be), ties won't be an issue for the most part. 10 years playing and I have never seen a tied game with fractional points.

 

 

this. if your league doesn't use fraction points... it should. We have never had a tie ever since.

[mgs316 14]

We use fractional in my work league, I had a tie last year. Rare but it can happen.

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

Why not use decimal scoring?

 

Switched to it about 4 years ago & have yet had a tie.

 

We do but ties still occur once in a blue moon.

[idiotec 31]

We use fractional in my work league, I had a tie last year. Rare but it can happen.

 

We finally had one as well 2 years ago. Very random. I added bench points as the tie-breaker.

[BobSanders_33 127]

Bench points should be the tie breaker. I can understand giving a few points for home field advantage during the playoffs but not during the season.

[R8RMick 242]

I've seen games lost which should have been otherwise won due to not having decimal scoring. Believe me, with twelve starting players the fractional points can add up. It is the only fair way to go, and I have never seen a tie in our league though I have seen games lost by .01 pts. Yes, this was ONE yard.

 

My Fantasy League has an option for home field advantage which we used in our playoffs for a couple years. After one guy got screwed by it the uproar was so intense the rule was voted out next season.

[seadog54 20]

 

We do but ties still occur once in a blue moon.

 

if you use proper decimal scoring like 1 passing yard = 0.05 or 0.04 it would have to be longer than a blue moon for a tie.

[travis_henrys_baby_momma 10]

Arbitrarily handing someone an arbitrary .5 is arbitrary.

 

Use fractional points.

[5Year1 23]

I didn't pay any attention to it, but I see today that 2 of my leagues have home team points. They posted them to our scores for this week today. I have home teams this week in both. One is worth 5 points, the other 1.

[jaxjag 43]

Arbitrarily handing someone an arbitrary .5 is arbitrary.

 

Use fractional points.

 

Your H2H schedule is arbitrary. Having a small point value for a "fantasy home field advantage" mimics reality and is not a bad idea. We do it and you actaully consider whether you are home or away. Adds to the game, in my opinion.

 

But, I don't think it should be added as a way to deal with ties.

[flyjam 1]

i don't think it adds to the game. it just adds more variance and randomness while at the same time not really serving any practical purpose. we already have enough of those two things in fantasy football, especially H2H leagues.

 

on the other hand, i actually like formats that give higher scoring regular season teams an advantage in the playoffs -- for instance, adding the team's average regular season score to their score for that week to determine their total points for the playoff matchup.

 

in the rare event of a tie, for the playoffs it should be decided by highest regular season total points (i.e., home field advantage). in the regular season... allow ties, or go to ANYTHING but bench points. total yards from scrimmage, qb points, highest scorer, whatever... but bench points should never be a factor in fantasy football as far as i'm concerned.

[ShooterMcGavin 3]

Starter TDs are the best tiebreaker IMO.

[Thornton Melon 544]

Starter TDs are the best tiebreaker IMO.

 

We use starter yardage points. There's less of a chance it's still tied after the tiebreaker.

[flyjam 1]

yeah, i like using yardage more than TDs because they're at least a little less fluky. of course it's silly to be discriminating about flukiness when you have a tied decimal scoring fantasy football game, but may as well go with the lesser of two evils.

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

How many weeks is your regular season? If its 13... Then definitely no go.

[ShooterMcGavin 3]

 

We use starter yardage points. There's less of a chance it's still tied after the tiebreaker.

I actually like that a lot, we run ours on fleaflicker though and that's not an option.

[Thornton Melon 544]

I actually like that a lot, we run ours on fleaflicker though and that's not an option.

 

We use Fleaflicker, too. The Commish gets a lot of leeway in Fleaflicker. He just does a score adjustment of the tied game, and adds 0.1 points to the guy who won the tiebreaker to give him the win. It does add 0.1 points to the winner's season total, but it's highly unlikely that would make any difference in determining a playoff spot. Anyway, we make a mental note of the extra 0.1. It happens so rarely, it's not something you're going to forget. In fact, I think we've only had one tie since we've been using Fleaflicker, and that was before we went to decimal scoring.

[flyjam 1]

in case anyone was curious about tie probability, this is a good post:

 

"To build on this... In one of my leagues last year with pretty standard lineups & scoring, the average score for a game was 90 points, with a standard deviation of 20. If you assume a normal distribution for scoring with stdev=20, then that means you'd expect a tie about once every 70 games in a league without fractional scoring (based on a simulation of 10,000 games that I just ran). So in leagues with fractional scoring and 1/20 passing you should get a tie about once every 1400 games, and in leagues with 1/25 passing about once every 3500 games. A 12-team league with a 14-week regular season plays 84 games per regular season, so it should have about 1.2 ties per year without fraction scoring, 1 tie every 17 years with fractional scoring and 1/20 passing, and 1 tie every 42 years with fractional scoring and 1/25 passing."

 

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569356

[Thornton Melon 544]

in case anyone was curious about tie probability, this is a good post:

 

"To build on this... In one of my leagues last year with pretty standard lineups & scoring, the average score for a game was 90 points, with a standard deviation of 20. If you assume a normal distribution for scoring with stdev=20, then that means you'd expect a tie about once every 70 games in a league without fractional scoring (based on a simulation of 10,000 games that I just ran). So in leagues with fractional scoring and 1/20 passing you should get a tie about once every 1400 games, and in leagues with 1/25 passing about once every 3500 games. A 12-team league with a 14-week regular season plays 84 games per regular season, so it should have about 1.2 ties per year without fraction scoring, 1 tie every 17 years with fractional scoring and 1/20 passing, and 1 tie every 42 years with fractional scoring and 1/25 passing."

 

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=569356

 

[jaxjag 43]

i don't think it adds to the game. it just adds more variance and randomness while at the same time not really serving any practical purpose. we already have enough of those two things in fantasy football, especially H2H leagues.

 

on the other hand, i actually like formats that give higher scoring regular season teams an advantage in the playoffs -- for instance, adding the team's average regular season score to their score for that week to determine their total points for the playoff matchup.

 

in the rare event of a tie, for the playoffs it should be decided by highest regular season total points (i.e., home field advantage). in the regular season... allow ties, or go to ANYTHING but bench points. total yards from scrimmage, qb points, highest scorer, whatever... but bench points should never be a factor in fantasy football as far as i'm concerned.

 

So you don't like the concept of "home field advantage" but think it woould be benefical in the play-offs? Way to go, Mr. Hypocrisy.

[flyjam 1]

uh, one has nothing to do with the other. in the regular season with "home field advantage" you're arbitrarily giving a team 5 points every other week for no reason. all this can possibly accomplish is increasing variance with no productive purpose.

 

total season points or win-loss record is probably what the tiebreaker should be in the event of a tie in the playoffs, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with playoff formats that give higher seeded teams a point advantage proportional to their regular season success.

[mgs316 14]

What I don't get is what is so bad about a tie in the regular season? Seems like a lot of people getting worked up over nothing.

[jaxjag 43]

uh, one has nothing to do with the other. in the regular season with "home field advantage" you're arbitrarily giving a team 5 points every other week for no reason. all this can possibly accomplish is increasing variance with no productive purpose.

 

total season points or win-loss record is probably what the tiebreaker should be in the event of a tie in the playoffs, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with playoff formats that give higher seeded teams a point advantage proportional to their regular season success.

 

I never said it was a way to break ties. Just that I like the concept of home/away games. If you think that doesn't matter in the NFL then you are kidding yourself.

[GridironGuzzlers 3]

my 14 teamer uses decimal scoring and we haven't had a tie in the 7 yrs of the league's existence. if there is a tie, so be it. but in the playoffs the higher seed wins a tie if necesary

[flyjam 1]

I never said it was a way to break ties. Just that I like the concept of home/away games. If you think that doesn't matter in the NFL then you are kidding yourself.

 

of course home field advantage matters in the nfl. it matters in fantasy football already too -- all else equal, a player playing at home is expected to perform better than if he was playing on the road.

 

the difference between the nfl and fantasy football is that in the nfl, games are played in situations and locales which benefit one team over the other out of logistics and necessity. home field advantage isn't something that was created, it's just there. in fantasy football, there's no reason to "create" artificial home field advantage when every game is played at a neutral site (your computer).

 

but, if your league likes it that's all that matters. just stating the case for why i don't like it.

[mgs316 14]

Funny, week 1, one tie.

 

91.8 to 91.8

 

Waiting for stat corrections.