smashmouths@blf 33 Posted May 27, 2014 I gotta say no hitters in the NL don't hold the same weight as no hitters in the American League. The lineups are weaker in the NL and you have pitchers hitting. The fact that Josh Beckett no hit a major league team at this point in his career is amazing enough, but if he's pitching against an AL team (besides the Astros) he doesn't make it past 6 innings. #Beckettthrowscheese Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted May 27, 2014 i was at the first NL combined no hitter.sept 11 1991 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted May 27, 2014 i was at the first NL combined no hitter.sept 11 1991I remember that game. Kent Mercker started I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted May 27, 2014 "lineups are weaker" and "pitchers hitting" is redundant. amazing feat either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted May 27, 2014 "lineups are weaker" and "pitchers hitting" is redundant. amazing feat either way. Um, no. National plays a different style playing "small ball". Bunting, stealing etc. So it's not redundant. Nice try though. Beckett's no hitter was a product of the crappy Phillies offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 27, 2014 The pitcher hitting is really a negligible difference. He'll most likely only get 2 ABs in the game anyway and the 9th batter on an AL team is probably hitting .250 or less which is only around a 10% greater chance of getting a hit. The top 5 batters are the reason a no-no is nearly impossible, not the 9th one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted May 27, 2014 I gotta say no hitters in the NL don't hold the same weight as no hitters in the American League. The lineups are weaker in the NL and you have pitchers hitting. The fact that Josh Beckett no hit a major league team at this point in his career is amazing enough, but if he's pitching against an AL team (besides the Astros) he doesn't make it past 6 innings. #Beckettthrowscheese This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smashmouths@blf 33 Posted May 27, 2014 This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read...How so? Shower us with your knowledge then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted May 27, 2014 I remember that game. Kent Mercker started I thinkyep. kent merker alajandro pena and mark wholers....pre yips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted May 27, 2014 yep. kent merker alajandro pena and mark wholers....pre yips. Don't forget the slow roller to third with two outs in the ninth that they called an error... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,037 Posted May 27, 2014 I gotta say no hitters in the NL don't hold the same weight as no hitters in the American League. The lineups are weaker in the NL and you have pitchers hitting. The fact that Josh Beckett no hit a major league team at this point in his career is amazing enough, but if he's pitching against an AL team (besides the Astros) he doesn't make it past 6 innings. #Beckettthrowscheese Sorry that you're not a fan of the league where pitchers are actually considered players too, and therefore bat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted May 27, 2014 Sorry that you're not a fan of the league where pitchers are actually considered players too, and therefore bat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted May 27, 2014 Don't forget the slow roller to third with two outs in the ninth that they called an error... That is the first time I witnessed a home scorer make a call like that. I have seen it many times since. If the no no was broken up the scorer would have had a change of heart and adjusted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted May 27, 2014 Sorry that you're not a fan of the league where pitchers are actually considered players too, and therefore bat. The whole DH/no DH argument is one that i could take either side of. If i had a preference i would say i would rather see the DH, but in general I wish they would just make it the same for both leagues one way or another. Could you imagine if the NFL had a different set of rules for the AFC vs NFC. Or if the NBA allowed zone defenses in the Western conference but not in the Eastern Conference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted May 27, 2014 agreed Beckett blows and I thought I saw a stats that after his first 5 outings or something he couldnt even make it past the 5th inning in any of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,037 Posted May 27, 2014 The whole DH/no DH argument is one that i could take either side of. If i had a preference i would say i would rather see the DH, but in general I wish they would just make it the same for both leagues one way or another. Could you imagine if the NFL had a different set of rules for the AFC vs NFC. Or if the NBA allowed zone defenses in the Western conference but not in the Eastern Conference? Agreed, get rid of the DH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted May 27, 2014 Agreed, get rid of the DH. [/thread] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted May 27, 2014 Sorry that you're not a fan of the league where pitchers are actually considered players too, and therefore bat. This. Baseball played the proper/best way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,037 Posted May 28, 2014 And just to prove that the OP is crazy...Brewers Pitcher Yovanni Gallardo comes in as pitch hitter in the 10th to win the game with double. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted May 28, 2014 And just to prove that the OP is crazy...Brewers Pitcher Yovanni Gallardo comes in as pitch hitter in the 10th to win the game with double. Didn't need this to prove that he is an idiot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,037 Posted May 28, 2014 Didn't need this to prove that he is an idiot... Truth-be-told...I just wanted a reason to post about a Brewers win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted May 28, 2014 "A garbage pitcher like Beckett could never throw a no-hitter in the American League." - Philip Humber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites