*** Official *** 2014 NBA draft thread

[KSB2424 3,174]

So apparently the fastest riser the past week has been obscure PG Elfrid Payton out of Louisiana Lafayette. 6'4 PG that has been wow'ing in workouts. Apparently not a great outside shooter, but does everything else really well. Being compared to Rajon Rhondo. May crack the top 10 in the lottery.

 

[KSB2424 3,174]

Updated!@#! (not that anyone cares)

 

 

1. Cav's - Andrew Wiggins

2. Bucks - Jabari Parker

3. Sixers - Joel Embiid

4. Magic - Dante Exum

5. Utah - Noah Vonleh

6. Boston - Marcus Smart

7. Lakers - Julius Randle

8. Kings - Elfrid Payton

9. Hornets - Doug McDermott

10. Sixers - Aaron Gordon

11. Denver - Zach Lavine

12. Orlando - Gary Harris

13. Wolves - Nick Staukaus

14. Suns - Rodney Hood

15. Atlanta - James Young

16. Chicago - TJ Warren

17. Boston - Adriane Payne

18. Suns - Jusuf Nurkic

19. Chicago - Shabazz Napier

20. Raptors - Kyle Anderson

21. OKC - Cleathon Early

22. Memphis - Tyler Ennis

23. Utah - Jordan Adams

24. Hornets - PJ Hairston

25. Rockets - Clint Capella

26. Miami - Glenn Robinson III

27. Suns - Jerami Grant

28. Clippers - Jordan Clarkson

29. OKC - KJ McDaniels

30. Spurs - Dario Saric

 

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

The wolves have made some awful awful decisions.

 

Remember when they Illegally signed Joe smith and lost all those picks? Joe freaking johnon.

 

KG could have won a title in minny if they ran that franchise even remotely well.

 

How about picking Rubio AND flynn? Hahah

[KSB2424 3,174]

I think the Cavs still really like Embiid and aren't sold as much as others on Parker or Wiggins. I think they trade with either Sixers or Magic for their two lottery picks and other throw in's.

 

Twitter is awesome for this stuff:

 

Cav's last night flew in Exum for a last minute workout (my thought is incase they trade down and Embiid is gone)

 

Also this from Chad Fords twitter feed:

 

 

Cavs were calling around offering teams Orlando's picks at 4 & 12 for players last night. Interesting. Twitter @chadfordinsider

 

 

I think the 1st pick gets dealt for either: Sixers 3 + 10, Orlando 4 + 12, or Utah's 5 + D.Favors.

 

"The Jazz are so intrigued with moving up, they've already offered up their fifth pick and defensive anchor Favors, the team’s best player last season, to the Cavaliers in hopes of making that swap and splash"

[MDC 8,085]

I think Cavs want Embiid too but draft Wiggins to try to extort 3, 10 and 32 out of Philly. And I think the Sixers either swing that deal or stand pat and draft Exum, deal MCW and the 10 to move up to 7 for Vonleh / Randle / Gordon, and trade Thad plus 2nd rounders to get back into the first and draft / stash Saric.

 

This draft will be insane.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

Why the hell do the sixers keep dealing promising young point guards for draft picks? Have u actually hears dealing mcw is a possibility? The way they run that team makes no sense

[MDC 8,085]

Why the hell do the sixers keep dealing promising young point guards for draft picks? Have u actually hears dealing mcw is a possibility? The way they run that team makes no sense

Trading Jrue for Noel and the 10th pick was genius.

 

The rumor is that the Sixers are infatuated with Exum and may draft him at 3, making MCW expendable.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

Trading Jrue for Noel and the 10th pick was genius.

 

The rumor is that the Sixers are infatuated with Exum and may draft him at 3, making MCW expendable.

Spinning their wheels, imo. You're not going to win by constantly rebuilding. Got to try to develop a core at some point.

 

So next draft they trade away Wiggins and Noel to move up and get the next player they are enamored with?

[MDC 8,085]

Spinning their wheels, imo. You're not going to win by constantly rebuilding. Got to try to develop a core at some point.

 

So next draft they trade away Wiggins and Noel to move up and get the next player they are enamored with?

Well, I think the Jrue trade was brilliant. I like Jrue but he was and is a good but not great PG. Obviously this hinges on Noel but I think he's at worst an elite defensive player and they landed him and the 10th pick tonight. That's a buck fifty on the dollar.

 

I would not support dealing MCW but they haven't done that yet. In just telling you what the speculation has been about.

[The Moz 72]

This is the biggest draft in recent history. As so many Bottom 1st rounders would be lottery in most other years.

[The Moz 72]

Well, I think the Jrue trade was brilliant. I like Jrue but he was and is a good but not great PG. Obviously this hinges on Noel but I think he's at worst an elite defensive player and they landed him and the 10th pick tonight. That's a buck fifty on the dollar.

 

I would not support dealing MCW but they haven't done that yet. In just telling you what the speculation has been about.

No chance they deal MCW - he is better than Exum . Smart is better than Exum. Philly either stands pat and takes Embid or they trade up to get Wiggins. I would STAND firm. This is the most loaded draft I can remmeber and to have 3 picks in the first round is nuts. Take Embiid at 3 then trade the 2 other first rounders to go up and grab Randle.

[MDC 8,085]

No chance they deal MCW - he is better than Exum . Smart is better than Exum. Philly either stands pat and takes Embid or they trade up to get Wiggins. I would STAND firm. This is the most loaded draft I can remmeber and to have 3 picks in the first round is nuts. Take Embiid at 3 then trade the 2 other first rounders to go up and grab Randle.

Sixers only have 2 first rounders.

 

If they can't get Wiggins I think they should move back to 5-6 if possible, draft Vonleh or Randle, hope for Gordon or Stauskas at 10 and attenpt to deal Thad to get back into the first, hopefully for Saric.

[phillybear 366]

When rumors broke that the Sixers were offering #3, #10, and #32 for #1, I nearly shat my pants. That is an idiot offer, and Sam Hinkie doesn't strike me as an idiot.

 

What bucket of jizz started that rumor?

[Reality 3,134]

Dear Everybody,

 

Please quit comparing Embiid to Hakeem.

 

Thanks,

Me

[phillybear 366]

Dear Everybody,

 

Please quit comparing Embiid to Hakeem.

 

Thanks,

Me

 

I'm of the mind that nobody should ever compare a player to Wilt, the greatest NBA player of all time.

[phillybear 366]

Apparently the Sixers have gotten their hands on 40 of Dante Exum's high school games in Australia and thoroughly broken them down. This is in addition to current head coach Brett Brown's connections to Australia, spending parts of the past several decades coaching with their national team so no doubt he can bend a few ears in asking about Exum. They have down a lot of homework on the kid.

 

With an ink pen or Sharpie, go ahead and write in Dante Exum at #3 going to the Philadelphia 76'ers. Or I'll eat my shoe. And it's a big shoe. Size 15.

 

Just like I said. Embiid.

 

Well, let's be truthful here. I was advocating Embiid for the Sixers post foot injury for days until I made Exum an realistic option.

 

I think the Sixers did just fine. They had all the medical records and made their decision. If anything, it's a much better choice than giving up a boatload of draft choices for one player in a unique draft so full of talented players and holding 7 picks.

[phillybear 366]

Aaron Gordon at #4?

 

The Sixers officially threw the draft into a tailspin. Orlando just panicked.

[The Moz 72]

Aaron Gordon at #4?

 

The Sixers officially threw the draft into a tailspin. Orlando just panicked.

a 6'8 210 pound "PF" who can't hit the ocean from a row boatt. Orlando must love the lottery

[phillybear 366]

I really think the draft is in chaos right now.

 

Orlando with Gordon?

Utah with Exum?

Boston with Smart?

 

I don't really understand these picks.

 

And Vonleh is still on the board. Can the Sixers find a way to move up and steal him?

[phillybear 366]

The pick at #10 by the Sixers, just missing out on Vonleh by one pick, then grabbing Payton, um, that was a mind boggling stupid pick. Exum could work. Payton? I don't see it.

 

I'm hosting a mini draft party at my house, and I fear for the safety of the furniture in my house. And my guests might break some stuff too.

[The Moz 72]

Philly went for a driver and pulled out a putter! Wow what a terrible trade.

[NewbieJr 541]

Wouldn't one or both of the Philly guys need to at least play a game before reaching that conclusion?

[The Moz 72]

Wouldn't one or both of the Philly guys need to at least play a game before reaching that conclusion?

The player they traded for was a guy that graded out at the end of the 1st round Plus he can't even play for 2 years. They could of gotten SOOOOOOO much more for Payton

[phillybear 366]

The pick at #10 by the Sixers, just missing out on Vonleh by one pick, then grabbing Payton, um, that was a mind boggling stupid pick. Exum could work. Payton? I don't see it.

 

I'm hosting a mini draft party at my house, and I fear for the safety of the furniture in my house. And my guests might break some stuff too.

 

Philadelphia 76ers selected Elfrid Payton at No. 10, Sam Hinkie traded Payton's rights to the Orlando Magic in exchange the rights to Dario Saric

 

The Sixers also acquired Orlando's 2017 first-round pick with Saric, eliminating the pick they owed to Orlando as part of the Dwight Howard four-team blockbuster. They will also acquire the Magic's 2015 second round pick.

[phillybear 366]

The player they traded for was a guy that graded out at the end of the 1st round Plus he can't even play for 2 years. They could of gotten SOOOOOOO much more for Payton

 

He got graded out of the 1st round after signing with his Europe team. He's the best player in Europe,

[MDC 8,085]

I'm iffy on the Embiid pick because of the injury risk.

 

I love the Saric pick because they got a future first for moving down 2 spots, Saric would've gone 5-6 if he intended to come over next year and this team will suck in 2015 anyway. Terrific move and they got a real talented player plus considerations for 2 slots.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

FOCK!!!!!!!

 

got excited when the Hornets grabbed Napier but now its being reported hes getting traded to Miami. FOCK!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

napier and walker on the same team would have been fun.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

I'm iffy on the Embiid pick because of the injury risk.

 

I love the Saric pick because they got a future first for moving down 2 spots, Saric would've gone 5-6 if he intended to come over next year and this team will suck in 2015 anyway. Terrific move and they got a real talented player plus considerations for 2 slots.

 

i couldn't stop laughing. im sorry. this team is now set up to compete in 2016-2017 but by then they will have traded away most of their team

[KSB2424 3,174]

Vonleh slips to 9 and PJ Hairston to my Hornets.

 

Hornets get an A+

 

Up and coming team in the East!

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

Hornets are one of the teams I'm cheering for now that they are back to the proper name. Always used to be one of my fav's back in the day.

 

Was really hoping they were keeping Napier even with pg not being a need... they could have used him as a great bench scorer

[MDC 8,085]

 

i couldn't stop laughing. im sorry. this team is now set up to compete in 2016-2017 but by then they will have traded away most of their team

You do realize other than Noel and MCW there is nobody on the roster who would be here anyway, right?

[NewbieJr 541]

You do realize other than Noel and MCW there is nobody on the roster who would be here anyway, right?

Obviously, the Sixers know that you can't hover in the middle of the league's standings and improve much. They weren't getting the high draft picks and they weren't attracting the big free agents. So they blew it up. If Noel and Embiid come back fully healthy and reach the potential that experts think they can reach, they should be a very good team in two years. And if Saric is the real deal and comes over, now you're looking at a nucleus of MCW, Noel, Embiid, and Saric. All very good and all very young. Plus, likely another lottery pick next year, since Embiid and Saric won't be in the picture yet. They are looking at the 2015-2016 season as the payout year. A lot of things have to fall into place, but I like what they are doing. Beats being 41-41 every year.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

Who else would you need? Mcw, noel, Thad young and at least one rookie who can get in there and develop right away would be a very nice core to compete not this year but 2015-2016.

 

They drafted two players who won't even be able to Starr getting their NBA legs until 2015-2016 at the earliest. 2016 - 2017, maybe they could compete... if they keep their pieces and actually let them develop. Bad thing is next summer should have some nice free agents but who would be enticed to come to a team full of guys who will mostly still be struggling to adjust?

[MDC 8,085]

Who else would you need? Mcw, noel, Thad young and at least one rookie who can get in there and develop right away would be a very nice core to compete not this year but 2015-2016.

 

They drafted two players who won't even be able to Starr getting their NBA legs until 2015-2016 at the earliest. 2016 - 2017, maybe they could compete... if they keep their pieces and actually let them develop. Bad thing is next summer should have some nice free agents but who would be enticed to come to a team full of guys who will mostly still be struggling to adjust?

This is the sort if thinking that had us maxed out at the 8 seed for about 12 years.

[NewbieJr 541]

Who else would you need? Mcw, noel, Thad young and at least one rookie who can get in there and develop right away would be a very nice core to compete not this year but 2015-2016.

 

They drafted two players who won't even be able to Starr getting their NBA legs until 2015-2016 at the earliest. 2016 - 2017, maybe they could compete... if they keep their pieces and actually let them develop. Bad thing is next summer should have some nice free agents but who would be enticed to come to a team full of guys who will mostly still be struggling to adjust?

They probably were thinking Wiggins or Parker, with Embiid going to Cleveland. When it was announced that Embiid was getting surgery and Cleveland balked at taking him at 1, I think Philly thought he was too good to pass up. The comparisons to Olajuwon are too mouth watering to pass up. Had they gotten Wiggins or Parker, I think they'd have gone with the plan you suggested. MCW, Noel, Young, and Wiggins/Parker. Embiid's injury caused them to adjust their entire plan. They didn't feel that Exum, Randle, Smart, or Gordon were the sure things that Wiggins and parker were.

[WhiteWonder 2,996]

They probably were thinking Wiggins or Parker, with Embiid going to Cleveland. When it was announced that Embiid was getting surgery and Cleveland balked at taking him at 1, I think Philly thought he was too good to pass up. The comparisons to Olajuwon are too mouth watering to pass up. Had they gotten Wiggins or Parker, I think they'd have gone with the plan you suggested. MCW, Noel, Young, and Wiggins/Parker. Embiid's injury caused them to adjust their entire plan. They didn't feel that Exum, Randle, Smart, or Gordon were the sure things that Wiggins and parker were.

Taking embiid was fine. You have the 10 you can use on a player who will play. Instead they take a second player who won't be here for at least a year.

 

Poor planning and what I suggested is not at all the same thing that had them stuck for years.

 

Didn't this team go to an ecf recently?

 

You need to attract superstars. Doesn't have to be a big three but you need 1. Philly will have the money but not the secondary talent to attract anyone.

 

Also I would buy into the long haul approach if they didn't continue to press the reset button on it.

[NewbieJr 541]

Taking embiid was fine. You have the 10 you can use on a player who will play. Instead they take a second player who won't be here for at least a year.

 

Poor planning and what I suggested is not at all the same thing that had them stuck for years.

 

Didn't this team go to an ecf recently?

 

You need to attract superstars. Doesn't have to be a big three but you need 1. Philly will have the money but not the secondary talent to attract anyone.

 

Also I would buy into the long haul approach if they didn't continue to press the reset button on it.

I also loved the Embiid pick and am a little skeptical about the Saric pick/trade. They were one pick away from getting Vonleh and I'm sure they'd have taken him. Only thing I can think of is that they've spoken to Saric and know something we don't. Maybe he's willing to come over and play for them sooner than later.

[cyclone24 1,940]

Soooooo.....they draft two guys that probably wont play at all this year as lottery picks. How "Philly" of them.

[Mungwater 601]

Soooooo.....they draft two guys that probably wont play at all this year as lottery picks. How "Philly" of them.

Philly isn't very good at sports, they adore rocky but ignore joe frazier, stupid

[NewbieJr 541]

Soooooo.....they draft two guys that probably wont play at all this year as lottery picks. How "Philly" of them.

I guess time will tell. The thing about drafting is that you can't always be proactive. Often times, you're reacting to other teams' moves. Had Embiid not gotten hurt and Vonleh fallen one more spot, they'd be looking at Wiggins and Vonleh and the entire draft strategy would have been different. Keeping in mind that they'll likely be towards the bottom again next year and receive a top 2 or 3 pick, you could be looking at a ridiculously talented starting five in 2015-2016. Or, Embiid's injuries turn him into another Greg Oden and Saric refuses to play here and the Sixers stay at the bottom and their entire strategy blows up in their face.