New details on how the Pats used Spygate info...

[bobby heenan 60]

I'm guessing the Patriots have a floor all to themselves in HeII and that would be the basement.

yeah maybe...but right now theyve made heaven a place on earth

[bobby heenan 60]

 

We will be watching, like we are now where all anyone is talking about is the new Pats cheating details. They may even show the banner between the talk of cheating America will be listening to.

like anyone takes the opinion of a steelers fan, on the pats, seriously

 

i remember once i had was having a convo with a cowboys fan....which turned sour pretty quickly....because i realized he was irrational....he even tried to tell me that troy aikman was better than brady.....

 

im sorry that terry bradshaw will never be tom brady...im sorry aikman couldnt even carry toms golf clubs.....im sorry that the great joe montana is being threatned as the greatest...i cant control and stop it.....it just is that way....you guys should accept it....stop being so bitter

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

like anyone takes the opinion of a steelers fan, on the pats, seriously

 

i remember once i had was having a convo with a cowboys fan....which turned sour pretty quickly....because i realized he was irrational....he even tried to tell me that troy aikman was better than brady.....

 

im sorry that terry bradshaw will never be tom brady...im sorry aikman couldnt even carry toms golf clubs.....im sorry that the great joe montana is being threatned as the greatest...i cant control and stop it.....it just is that way....you guys should accept it....stop being so bitter

 

Bradshaw has 4 rings as well and no one accuses him of being a cheater.

 

Face it; the more you try and defend what is painfully obvious to any rational person, the more irrational you appear. Maybe even delusional.

[murf74 461]

like anyone takes the opinion of a steelers fan, on the pats, seriously

 

i remember once i had was having a convo with a cowboys fan....which turned sour pretty quickly....because i realized he was irrational....he even tried to tell me that troy aikman was better than brady.....

 

im sorry that terry bradshaw will never be tom brady...im sorry aikman couldnt even carry toms golf clubs.....im sorry that the great joe montana is being threatned as the greatest...i cant control and stop it.....it just is that way....you guys should accept it....stop being so bitter

 

nobody cares about Terry Bradshaw vs. Brady, if the Patriots were not cheaters this thread wound't exist and people would accept Brady's greatness, there is this entire FACT of multiple cheating that really has ruined his legacy.

 

Sorry guys

[bobby heenan 60]

nobody cares about Terry Bradshaw vs. Brady, if the Patriots were not cheaters this thread wound't exist and people would accept Brady's greatness, there is this entire FACT of multiple cheating that really has ruined his legacy.

 

Sorry guys

Ya the steelers didn't cheat....sincerely mike Websters ankles lol

 

Anyways...I'm gonna go enjoy this steak and a few glasses of chard....enjoy your microwavable dinner....probably tastes like bitterness

[$epphori$ 118]

 

The * is the ahole faces of the Patriot fans defending that dynasty of cheating.

LMAO

I love the butthurtness

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Ya the steelers didn't cheat....sincerely mike Websters ankles lol

 

Anyways...I'm gonna go enjoy this steak and a few glasses of chard....enjoy your microwavable dinner....probably tastes like bitterness

 

Enjoy that tube steak the Pats have given you by tainting your team's legacy. You may want to avoid the au jus at the end of that meal though.

[bobby heenan 60]

Hey guys espn is saying he pats cheated!

 

They're rehashing an old so try about a Rams practice tape that they apologized for and recanted ....and was never proven to be true

 

Then you have a report that teams would leave behind play sheets around the locker room areas and pats guys would grab them and look at them! Holy cow! Pats have to be only team that would ever stoop that low

 

Next we hear that the Pats would sign a recently released player from a division a rival or team they were playing and question them and gain info .....holy crap! Stop the presses!

 

Theres your report! Very damning....

[parrot 789]

 

Ah..................so either it did give them a schematic edge therefore they continued it or Belichick is a complete dumba$$ to continue and amplify something that gave him no edge? Ha; nice try.

 

You are putting a lot of weight in the "75%" statement. That statement was in relation to one game, and was a apparently and off-the-cuff piece of hearsay that is highly questionable based on the results of the game.

 

It's silly for ESPN to try and act like that game was some watershed moment when it's fairly evident that there was some level of taping going on at least back to Cleveland, and it's silly for you to try and extrapolate that statement to being any kind of reliable analysis on the efficacy of the entire practice. HTH.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

You are putting a lot of weight in the "75%" statement. That statement was in relation to one game, and was a apparently and off-the-cuff piece of hearsay that is highly questionable based on the results of the game.

 

It's silly for ESPN to try and act like that game was some watershed moment when it's fairly evident that there was some level of taping going on at least back to Cleveland, and it's silly for you to try and extrapolate that statement to being any kind of reliable analysis on the efficacy of the entire practice. HTH.

 

It's got to be one way or the other man. Either it helped and therefore tainted the legacy or Belichick is a dumba$$. Which is it?

[murf74 461]

Ya the steelers didn't cheat....sincerely mike Websters ankles lol

 

Anyways...I'm gonna go enjoy this steak and a few glasses of chard....enjoy your microwavable dinner....probably tastes like bitterness

 

Oh yeah Mike Webster and the rest of the NFL took steroids when they were legal. Oh wait, that wouldn't be cheating. LOL good try

[Mike Nice 40]

Move along nothing to see here...except to watch brady win number 5 this year.

[Mike Nice 40]

 

 

Get over it. This is a fantasy football forum, take it elsewhere.

[$epphori$ 118]

Basically ESPN is slandering the Pats to decoy away from Mortonson fvck up of the deflategate reporting. This is what I got from all this. Pats win again!!! Lets start the season...I am ready for another Superbowl

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

With all the dirt that's being swept under the carpets in New England, it's a wonder how anyone is able to walk on them.

[bobby heenan 60]

Oh yeah Mike Webster and the rest of the NFL took steroids when they were legal. Oh wait, that wouldn't be cheating. LOL good try

Ya they just shot him up and let him play when he had no business being out there....even worse...they cheated their own backbone

 

So have you decided whether or not the pats have cheated already Thursday night when they kick the steelers rear ends? Or did the pats send blount to pitt to smoke with leveon and martavis?

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

You Pats fans are going to pay long and hard for this..... enjoy the "wins" now, you guys are going to go threw about 3 decades of just sh*t. Our modern day Browns, so to speak.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So have you decided whether or not the pats have cheated already Thursday night when they kick the steelers rear ends? Or did the pats send blount to pitt to smoke with leveon and martavis?

 

It's at Gillette stadium so therefore ANY result will come under scrutiny. Sorry but that's the legacy that team has a.k.a. 'The Patriot Way'.

[bobby heenan 60]

It's at Gillette stadium so therefore ANY result will come under scrutiny. Sorry but that's the legacy that team has a.k.a. 'The Patriot Way'.

They also have a legacy of kicking the steelers rear ends at heinz field too....go figure

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

They also have a legacy of kicking the steelers rear ends at heinz field too....go figure

 

I guess when you have 75% of the other teams' signals that can happen. Go figure...........

[murf74 461]

 

It's at Gillette stadium so therefore ANY result will come under scrutiny. Sorry but that's the legacy that team has a.k.a. 'The Patriot Way'.

 

Pretty sad you have to bring in the FBI to swipe for surveillance. If you ain't cheatin' you ain't playing...the Patriot Way

[brotherbock 349]

Brady is one of the best QBs in the history of the league. Belicheck is one of the best coaches in the history of the league. The Pats cheated significantly for a very long time.

 

I have no idea how many wins they would have had without cheating, in part because of the first two statements above.

 

I do know I don't like it, and I'm sad when it happens, and I would have a harder time cheering for them.

 

Perspective of someone who's not a hater, and actually liked seeing them beat the Seahawks (who I also don't have a problem with).

[bobby heenan 60]

I guess when you have 75% of the other teams' signals that can happen. Go figure...........

Ya yer right (I'm totally not serious....I just feel bad for you)

[murf74 461]

Maybe the most shocking tale comes deep in the story, after all the descriptions of the Patriots' spying, when former New England coaches and employees are cited as describing an even more effective cheating system:

"Several of them acknowledge that during pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Brady is one of the best QBs in the history of the league. Belicheck is one of the best coaches in the history of the league. The Pats cheated significantly for a very long time.

 

I have no idea how many wins they would have had without cheating, in part because of the first two statements above.

 

I do know I don't like it, and I'm sad when it happens, and I would have a harder time cheering for them.

 

Perspective of someone who's not a hater, and actually liked seeing them beat the Seahawks (who I also don't have a problem with).

 

I know for me I want to watch the NFL games without wondering what kind of a$$hatshenanigans the Pats are pulling this time to win.

 

FFS Patriot Nation; just play straight up and win or lose based on merit.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Ya yer right (I'm totally not serious....I just feel bad for you)

 

Why? My Steelers have 6 untainted titles versus ZERO for the Patriots. HTH

[bobby heenan 60]

Maybe the most shocking tale comes deep in the story, after all the descriptions of the Patriots' spying, when former New England coaches and employees are cited as describing an even more effective cheating system:

 

"Several of them acknowledge that during pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense.

 

I think the shocking part is a team would leave play sheets with their first 20 scripted plays laying around in another teams stadium and not have at least one team official hanging out in the locker room during said time.......now ur just talking crazy ....look at how low u have to go and how far ur reaching .....sad

 

Anyways don't forget to tune into the party Thursday night ...it's gonna be great

[murf74 461]

I think the shocking part is a team would leave play sheets with their first 20 scripted plays laying around in another teams stadium and not have at least one team official hanging out in the locker room during said time.......now ur just talking crazy ....look at how low u have to go and how far ur reaching .....sad

 

Anyways don't forget to tune into the party Thursday night ...it's gonna be great

 

Reaching? LOL, you have lowered your cheating standard to now blame the victim team for allowing it to be too easy to go into their locker room and steal their plays. LOL are you kidding me? Are you listening to yourselves Pats fans. For all you know they locked the door and Pats had a key, or it is probably not uncommon whatsoever for lower level employees to deliver supplies etc to visiting locker rooms. DOES IT MATTER? THE FACT IS THAT BILLICHEAT SENT THEM IN THERE TO STEAL THE PLAYS WHICH IS FREAKING CHEATING!!!!!!

 

So if I leave my car unlocked and someone steals shiit out of it, is it not stealing?

 

This is priceless.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I think the shocking part is a team would leave play sheets with their first 20 scripted plays laying around in another teams stadium and not have at least one team official hanging out in the locker room during said time.......now ur just talking crazy ....look at how low u have to go and how far ur reaching .....sad

 

Uh.........I assume you didn't read the report then. It says that the Pats did precisely that. I know it's hard to read with your head buried in the sand or with your hands over your ears saying 'la la la, I'm not listening'. Speaking of sad..........

 

If ignorance is bliss then the Patriot Nation have the happiest fans of all.

[$epphori$ 118]

 

Why? My Steelers have 6 untainted titles versus ZERO for the Patriots. HTH

I used to have respect for you on this board but man you have turned into the biggest crybaby whining .

[bobby heenan 60]

Uh.........I assume you didn't read the report then. It says that the Pats did precisely that. I know it's hard to read with your head buried in the sand or with your hands over your ears saying 'la la la, I'm not listening'. Speaking of sad..........

 

If ignorance is bliss then the Patriot Nation have the happiest fans of all.

A report? Like Mortensen false report? Like thr report of a Rams walk through tape that didn't exist and papers and tv networks apologized for? Like those reports???

 

U guys are such mad little lads....so sad

[murf74 461]

I used to have respect for you on this board but man you have turned into the biggest crybaby whining ######.

 

Oh crap, a guy with two dollar signs in his name and some weird monster avatar has lost respect for you.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

It's okay fellas; nobody is taking away your birthdays. Maybe those Lombardi trophies but not your birthdays.

[Socnorb11 7]

 

 

remember this "tom bradys real life is better than any dream youve ever had"......belichicks prob isnt too bad either

 

 

Meh - I think you're making a huge assumption here. Whitney Houston's star shined pretty bright, but she was broken on the inside. Same for Robin Williams, Kurt Cobain, Junior Seau, Michael Jackson, etc.

 

Not that Tom Brady is going down that road, but I think it's a slippery slope when you hitch your happiness to the fame & fortune wagon.

I'm middle class, but my life is pretty damn good, and my name's not be smeared all over the place today.

[$epphori$ 118]

For 8 months we have dealt with the bullshit and arguing regarding what the Pats did or did not do. Arent you all sick of it already? I know I am. I just want the season to start. I want to enjoy watching the Pats games and all the other televised games. I want to enjoy my fantasy football season. This argument of the Pats cheating is fvcking old already. Nothing can change then past and nothing can change everyones opinion. Whether you are a fan or a Pats hater. Lets bury the hatchet and enjoy the season.

[$epphori$ 118]

 

Oh crap, a guy with two dollar signs in his name and some weird monster avatar has lost respect for you.

Thats my face in the avatar

[Mike Nice 40]

Gotta love how everyone here thinks and believes they know everything that did or did not happen 8 YEARS AGO.

 

At this point it is just so hard to know what is true and what's not.

[murf74 461]

Thats my face in the avatar

 

Hot damn you pretty!

[$epphori$ 118]

 

Hot damn you pretty!

I am def above average, but dont let that green fool ya. That was a trick of the camera

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

For 8 months we have dealt with the bullshit and arguing regarding what the Pats did or did not do. Arent you all sick of it already? I know I am. I just want the season to start. I want to enjoy watching the Pats games and all the other televised games. I want to enjoy my fantasy football season. This argument of the Pats cheating is fvcking old already. Nothing can change then past and nothing can change everyones opinion. Whether you are a fan or a Pats hater. Lets bury the hatchet and enjoy the season.

 

As I said before man, I want to watch the games and not have to wonder if the outcome of the game was rigged. I want the NFL........not WWE.

 

With that being said, I'm tapping out.