New details on how the Pats used Spygate info...

[bobby heenan 60]

 

STILL defending their team in light of all this mounting evidence against them. Someone is getting desperate.

the only thing that is desperate...is fans of old dynasties...like the steelers,,,cowboys....49ers.....trying to discredit and take away from a more impressive one.....if its not a steelers fan...its a cowboys fan....or some 9ers fan saying brady isnt as good as montana because montana is 4-0 and didnt throw an int in the superbowl....thats where desperation comes into play here

[$epphori$ 118]

cant wait til the Pats win it again and then all you dumb asses find out the Pats were able to exploit the rules yet again. Hey if you cant beat em, you miles well join them. You all know the saying.

[$epphori$ 118]

 

 

Im not denying that they filmed coaches and been saying through this entire post that thought it was pretty clear they did alot more than what the NFL originally said.

 

If you are calling me a fool for calling BS on these "anonymous" sources then yes i am a fool. Anyone who has followed the circus for the last 7 months should know not to trust reports until it is proven. Along with the report that ESPN appologized for in the video above one of their reports left a false tweet up for months after it was known that the information in it was wrong.

 

So until these sources actually come out and tell how they know this then i am sticking to what i know. The Patriots filmed coaches/players to try to get their plays.

 

So if you do not see my reasoning then you are the one looking like a fool. How many times can people report false information before people will question it? I dont trust anyone

all teams filmed the opposing teams sidelines. The rule the Pats broke was they were not standing in the designated area to film. That is all

[tanatastic 2,062]

the only thing that is desperate...is fans of old dynasties...like the steelers,,,cowboys....49ers.....trying to discredit and take away from a more impressive one.....if its not a steelers fan...its a cowboys fan....or some 9ers fan saying brady isnt as good as montana because montana is 4-0 and didnt throw an int in the superbowl....thats where desperation comes into play here

Thats the case.

[Socnorb11 7]

the only thing that is desperate...is fans of old dynasties...like the steelers,,,cowboys....49ers.....trying to discredit and take away from a more impressive one.....if its not a steelers fan...its a cowboys fan....or some 9ers fan saying brady isnt as good as montana because montana is 4-0 and didnt throw an int in the superbowl....thats where desperation comes into play here

 

For the record, I'm not a fan of any of those teams.

 

I don't recall teams trying to discredit the Steelers, or 49ers, or Cowboys or Dolphins when those teams were insanely successful. That's probably because they didn't cheat.

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

 

 

Im not denying that they filmed coaches and been saying through this entire post that thought it was pretty clear they did alot more than what the NFL originally said.

 

If you are calling me a fool for calling BS on these "anonymous" sources then yes i am a fool. Anyone who has followed the circus for the last 7 months should know not to trust reports until it is proven. Along with the report that ESPN appologized for in the video above one of their reports left a false tweet up for months after it was known that the information in it was wrong.

 

So until these sources actually come out and tell how they know this then i am sticking to what i know. The Patriots filmed coaches/players to try to get their plays.

 

So if you do not see my reasoning then you are the one looking like a fool. How many times can people report false information before people will question it? I dont trust anyone

Even if all that happened the sources came out etc... you would still defend your beloved Pats, admit it.

 

You should change your avatar, we don't hate you because we ain't you... we hate you because you cheat

[$epphori$ 118]

Brady went to 6 superbowls and Montana only 4

[PATSSOX 22]

all teams filmed the opposing teams sidelines. The rule the Pats broke was they were not standing in the designated area to film. That is all

 

 

And why should people be shocked to find out that they had library of teams and coaches? Why would you do all the work to try and figure out the plays and then throw all that work away? Not happening. Its the same as scouting reports.

 

Why do coaches cover their mouths when taking during game? Or why do catchers and pitchers cover their mouths when they talk on the mound?

[Magnificent Bastard 191]

all teams filmed the opposing teams sidelines. The rule the Pats broke was they were not standing in the designated area to film. That is all

Ha. I guess thats why they gave up a first round pick and BB took the biggest fine in history and Goodell destroyed the tapes. Because they were standing in the wrong place.

[Socnorb11 7]

 

 

And why should people be shocked to find out that they had library of teams and coaches? Why would you do all the work to try and figure out the plays and then throw all that work away? Not happening. Its the same as scouting reports.

 

Why do coaches cover their mouths when taking during game? Or why do catchers and pitchers cover their mouths when they talk on the mound?

 

 

They were fined and lost a draft pick, without appeal.............. why?

[Socnorb11 7]

Brady went to 6 superbowls and Montana only 4

 

 

Brady has been real good, but let's not forget, Matt Cassell (who?) went 10-5 in that system when Brady was injured. By comparison, the Colts went 2-14 when Manning was injured for a season. Brady, to a large degree, is a product of that system.

[DaBeerz 88]

 

Vacate the SB wins. Plain and simple.

 

 

Lance won but had them all vacated just as the Pats SBs should be.

 

Disgusting that people are defending it or downplaying it. Makes you wonder how they conduct themselves in everyday life.

 

Most Pats fans I know deny spygate even happened, even if they do admit it, they act like it didn't influence their ability to win all those superbowls.

 

I don't disagree, the penalties should have been harsher. But as Brady showed us just recently, it's not what you know, it's what you can legally prove in a court of law.

 

Unless there is some insider whistleblower with some undeniable proof, nothing is going to happen.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Brady went to 6 superbowls and Montana only 4

 

And given that the Pats cheated to get to them and probably in them to win Brady won ZERO.

 

Something else Pats fans. YOU guys all were shocked at the punishment Goddell tried to hand down to Brady and demanded to know why. Well, now you know. Careful what you wish for..........

[bobby heenan 60]

 

For the record, I'm not a fan of any of those teams.

 

I don't recall teams trying to discredit the Steelers, or 49ers, or Cowboys or Dolphins when those teams were insanely successful. That's probably because they didn't cheat.

those teams never went through it in the internet, tmz, 24 hours sports news network days......the league is set up to for "dynasties" to have a short run these days...maybe 3-4 years tops....and people like the jets and colts....to some degree the ravens....and fans of many others cant figure out why they are still a sb threat every year for the last 15....."oh they must be cheating"

 

if anyone had a gripe it was harbaugh in the afc title game....im a lifelong pats fan and season ticket holder....even i could see how the ravens would be upset about the formations the pats used.....it borders on smart/bush league......

[Kent 228]

So old news is now new news?

[tanatastic 2,062]

Brady went to 6 superbowls was part of a tained team and therefore went to 0 SB, and Montana only 4

Fixed for accuracy.

[Socnorb11 7]

those teams never went through it in the internet, tmz, 24 hours sports news network days......the league is set up to for "dynasties" to have a short run these days...maybe 3-4 years tops....and people like the jets and colts....to some degree the ravens....and fans of many others cant figure out why they are still a sb threat every year for the last 15....."oh they must be cheating"

 

 

 

OK. How about the San Antonio Spurs? They've been, arguably, even more successful than the Patriots over the last 15 years or so (through the internet, 24 hour sports network era, etc.). I don't see anyone trying to discredit them.

 

Could that be because they haven't cheated?

[PATSSOX 22]

 

 

They were fined and lost a draft pick, without appeal.............. why?

 

?

 

Because they got caught filming when told not to.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So old news is now new news?

 

Read the article Kent. A ton of more detailed descriptions of what went on including Goddell shushing the other teams. Also, stealing play sheets was definitely never mentioned. Pretty damning.........

[$epphori$ 118]

maybe if you guys send this thread to the NFL they will take away the Superbowls and give them to your teams lol

[$epphori$ 118]

Fixed for accuracy.

to bad for you your opinion doesnt matter huh?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

maybe if you guys send this thread to the NFL they will take away the Superbowls and give them to your teams lol

 

My team has 6. None of their trophies have that giant * on them.

[Socnorb11 7]

maybe if you guys send this thread to the NFL they will take away the Superbowls and give them to your teams lol

 

 

That's not really the point here, but OK.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want those Super Bowls at the expense of my franchise's integrity.

[bobby heenan 60]

 

 

OK. How about the San Antonio Spurs? They've been, arguably, even more successful than the Patriots over the last 15 years or so (through the internet, 24 hour sports network era, etc.). I don't see anyone trying to discredit them.

 

Could that be because they haven't cheated?

because nobody cares about the spurs....they dont rub anyone the wrong way....tim duncan is about as vanilla as they come as far as leader/star.....its san antonio for crying out loud....nobody cares....the patriots represent a whole region of the country......one that has seen alot of titles in the last 15 years....the spurs are great....its just nobody really cares....people care about lebron, durant, etc....the spurs dont make headlines.....

[$epphori$ 118]

just think if Brady let out a few more PSI he could be 6-0

[$epphori$ 118]

 

My team has 6. None of their trophies have that giant * on them.

last I looked either does ours, its all in your heads that it does...show me where there is an *

[Kent 228]

Read the article Kent. A ton of more detailed descriptions of what went on including Goddell shushing the other teams. Also, stealing play sheets was definitely never mentioned. Pretty damning.........

Yeah but everyone knows what they were doing trying to steal signals and information. Aren't all 32 teams doing this? Maybe not,to the extent the Patriots are. I dunno.

 

I wish the Redskins would try to cheat harder. . We suck.

[Socnorb11 7]

because nobody cares about the spurs....they dont rub anyone the wrong way....tim duncan is about as vanilla as they come as far as leader/star.....its san antonio for crying out loud....nobody cares....the patriots represent a whole region of the country......one that has seen alot of titles in the last 15 years....the spurs are great....its just nobody really cares....people care about lebron, durant, etc....the spurs dont make headlines.....

 

 

Haha.

 

See this arrogance is the OTHER reason (besides cheating) that people don't like New England fans.

[bobby heenan 60]

 

 

Haha.

 

See this arrogance is the OTHER reason (besides cheating) that people don't like New England fans.

 

nobody really cares about the spurs...they win their titles...and they get their time in the sun and boom....it goes away and nobody really cares....people more worried about lebron,....where hes gonna play....or where durant might go to...or whats going on with melo and the knicks....its true

 

i dunno what you want me to say man....the sox have 3 titles since 2004....the celts have one...the bruins have one....the pats have 4.....

 

if you ask 100 guys who theyd rather trade lives with...tom brady or tim duncan....100 pick brady all day.....tom bradys real life is better than the best dream youve ever had

[$epphori$ 118]

Where is the * trophy?

[$epphori$ 118]

 

nobody really cares about the spurs...they win their titles...and they get their time in the sun and boom....it goes away and nobody really cares....people more worried about lebron,....where hes gonna play....or where durant might go to...or whats going on with melo and the knicks....its true

 

i dunno what you want me to say man....the sox have 3 titles since 2004....the celts have one...the bruins have one....the pats have 4.....

 

if you ask 100 guys who theyd rather trade lives with...tom brady or tim duncan....100 pick brady all day.....tom bradys real life is better than the best dream youve ever had

plus nobody wants to be a dindu nuthin

and Bradys wife is hawt

[Socnorb11 7]

 

nobody really cares about the spurs...they win their titles...and they get their time in the sun and boom....it goes away and nobody really cares....people more worried about lebron,....where hes gonna play....or where durant might go to...or whats going on with melo and the knicks....its true

 

i dunno what you want me to say man....the sox have 3 titles since 2004....the celts have one...the bruins have one....the pats have 4.....

 

if you ask 100 guys who theyd rather trade lives with...tom brady or tim duncan....100 pick brady all day.....tom bradys real life is better than the best dream youve ever had

 

 

I must be number 101. I'd rather be Tim Duncan. Guy is the model of integrity, respected by everyone in his industry, and has won multiple championships without a single tarnish.

 

Why do you think nobody discredits the Red Sox titles, then? Maybe it's because they didn't cheat?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Where is the * trophy?

 

The * is the ahole faces of the Patriot fans defending that dynasty of cheating.

[bobby heenan 60]

 

 

I must be number 101. I'd rather be Tim Duncan. Guy is the model of integrity, respected by everyone in his industry, and has won multiple championships without a single tarnish.

 

Why do you think nobody discredits the Red Sox titles, then? Maybe it's because they didn't cheat?

youd be alone chief.......but im happy for you

 

the nba is a star driven league...they want to protect their stars....because the league revovles around them as does the money.......and the nba wll help aid its stars and favorites cheat through terrible officiating.....one look no further than the lakers/kings 2002 western conference finals...and many other instances...and scandals

 

people actually do try to discredit the sox....about manny and ortiz being ped cheats...even though the whole league was on them

 

remember this "tom bradys real life is better than any dream youve ever had"......belichicks prob isnt too bad either

[murf74 461]

 

The * is the ahole faces of the Patriot fans defending that dynasty of cheating.

 

Give the Pats credit, how much effort they have put into spygate, deflategate, sneaking into opponents locker room, "allegedly" taping walkthroughs, "allegedly" bugging locker rooms.

 

I mean all this garbage has been going on since 2000? 14 years? WOW

[giraldi02 474]

90+ sources. But the Patsies homers will cry "smear campaign"

[tanatastic 2,062]

There are more question marks on the pats dynasty than the Riddlers underwear.

[bobby heenan 60]

alright guys...have fun complaining and whining about how much the patriots cheat and whatever other tripe you wanna spew....well be unveiling another banner thursday night in our home.....hope you guys are watching...its gonna be a great night ...

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I'm guessing the Patriots have a floor all to themselves in HeII and that would be the basement.

[murf74 461]

alright guys...have fun complaining and whining about how much the patriots cheat and whatever other tripe you wanna spew....well be unveiling another banner thursday night in our home.....hope you guys are watching...its gonna be a great night ...

 

We will be watching, like we are now where all anyone is talking about is the new Pats cheating details. They may even show the banner between the talk of cheating America will be listening to.