***Geek Club History Draft***

[vuduchile 1,945]

Dumb mutha

 

William Orten. President of Western Union in 1876

 

In 1876 Western Union, had a monopoly on the most advanced communications technology available, the telegraph. Orten was offered the patent on a new invention, the telephone, for $100,000 (worth about $2M in current dollars). He considered the whole idea ridiculous, and wrote directly to Alexander Graham Bell, saying, After careful consideration of your invention, while it is a very interesting novelty, we have come to the conclusion that it has no commercial possibilities What use could this company make of an electrical toy? Two years later, after the telephone began to take off, Orten realized the magnitude of his mistake, and spent years (unsuccessfully) challenging Bells patents.

[Voltaire 5,392]

I got a pm from Volty. He said go ahead and add Cartoon Characters as a new category.

 

Alrighty, carry on.

Actually that's not a bad idea.

 

A TV show draft.

 

Male Lead (ideal)

Male Lead (flawed)

Female Lead (ideal)

Female Lead(flawed)

Male Supporting Role

Female Supporting Role

Child star

Neighbor

Best friend

Boss

Office worker

Cop

Cartoon character

Super hero

... whatever more you can think of

...

...

[vuduchile 1,945]

I'm ok with adding a fictional person category if everybody else wants it.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Dumb mutha

 

William Orten. President of Western Union in 1876

 

In 1876 Western Union, had a monopoly on the most advanced communications technology available, the telegraph. Orten was offered the patent on a new invention, the telephone, for $100,000 (worth about $2M in current dollars). He considered the whole idea ridiculous, and wrote directly to Alexander Graham Bell, saying, After careful consideration of your invention, while it is a very interesting novelty, we have come to the conclusion that it has no commercial possibilities What use could this company make of an electrical toy? Two years later, after the telephone began to take off, Orten realized the magnitude of his mistake, and spent years (unsuccessfully) challenging Bells patents.

Oh, this is going to be a fun category. Rest assured I have some real winners to toss out there too.

 

This is the way to go. Let's stick to massive screw ups.

 

I propse we have to do a gentleman's agreement here. My #1 guy was the native Aztec emperor with 50000 troops who gets his ass kicked and treasure house raided by Pizzaro and 200 Spaniards. I don't want to take him. We could fill the whole category with primitive native kings getting stuffed by European colonizers and maybe it's a bit distateful to go there.

 

Guys like William Orten are the way to go.

 

Now military disasters with equal tech forces or if one side has the tech edge but loses anyways, we can keep those.

 

 

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Also since it's hard to access page one on a phone...

 

1.1 Volty - Leonardo da Vinci - Jack-of-all-Trades

1.2 TBBOM - Jesus Christ - Religious Leader

1.3 BPB - Sun Tzu - General (Strategical)

1.4 Vudu- Albert Einstein - Scientist (Physics)

2.1 Vudu- Johann Sebastian Bach - Composer

2.2 BPB - Stephen Hawking - Scientist (Astronomy)

2.3S -90sb- Charles Babbage - Engineer

2.4S -90sb- Leonhard Euler - Mathematician

2.5 TBBOM - Queen Elizabeth I - Great Woman

2.6 Volty - Michelangelo - Artist (Visual)

3.1 Volty - William Shakespeare - Poet

3.2 TBBOM - Nicola Tesla - Scientist (Physics)

3.3 BPB - Alexander the Great - General (Tactical)

3.4 Vudu - Nelson Mandela - Criminal

3.5 90sb - Orville and Wilbur Wright - Inventor

4.1 90sb - Henry Ford - Businessman

4.2 Vudu - The Beatles - Artist (Performing)

4.3 BPB - Genghis Khan - Conquerer

4.4 TBBOM - Atilla the Hun - Conquerer

4.5 Volty - Christopher Columbus - Explorer

5.1 Volty - Charles Darwin - Scientist (Biology)

5.2 TBBOM - Marco Polo - Explorer

5.3 BPB - Thomas Edison - Inventor

5.4 Vudu - Napoleon Bonaparte - General (Strategist)

6.1 Vudu - Vlad the Impaler - Evil Motherfocker

6.2 BPB - Earnest Hemingway - Writer

6.3 TBBOM - Aristotle - Philosopher

6.4 Volty - Cleopatra - Seductress

7.1 Volty - Adam Smith - Social Scientist

7.2 TBBOM - Horatio Nelson - Admiral

7.3 BPB - Abraham Lincoln - Statesman

7.4S 90sb - J. Robert Oppenheimer - Scientist (Physics)

7.5S 90sb - Roger L. Easton - Inventor

7.6 vudu - Michael Jordan - Athlete

7.7 90sb - Robert E. Lee - General (tactical)

8.1 90sb - Tamerlane - Conqurer

8.2 vudu - Neil Armstrong - Explorer

8.3 BPB - Steve Jobs - Businessman

8.4 TBBOM - Homer - Poet

8.5 Volty - Martin Luther - Reformer

9.1 Volty - Hannibal - General (Tactical)

9.2 TBBOM - Otto von Bismark - Advisor

9.3 BPB - Jaquin Guzman - Criminal

9.4 Vudu - Johannes Guttenberg - Inventor

9.5 90sb - Adolph Hitler - Evil Motherfocker

10.1 90sb - Julius Caesar - General (Strategical)

10.2 Vudu- Joan of Arc - Great Woman

10.3 BPB - Robin Williams - Talk Show Guest

10.4 TBBOM - Joseph Stalin - Evil Motherfocker

10.5 Volty - Augustus Caesar - Administrator

11.1 Volty - Subutai - General (Strategical)

11.2 TBBOM - Hippocrates - Doctor

11.3 BPB - Jacques Cousteau - Explorer

11.4 Vudu - George Washington - Statesman

11.5 90sb - Plato - Philosopher

12.1 90sb - Alexander Fleming - Doctor

12.2 Vudu - Marilyn Monroe - Wildcard

12.3 BPB - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Composer

12.4 TBBOM - Winston Churchill - Statesman

12.5 Volty - Ludwig von Beethoven - Composer

13.1 Volty - Thomas Jefferson - Thinker

13.2 TBBOM - Erwin Rommel - General (Strategic)

13.3 BPB - Marie Curie - Great Woman

13.4 Vudu - Galileo Galilei - Scientist (Astronomy)

13.5 90sb - Teddy Roosevelt - Statesman

14.1 90sb - Ronald Reagan - Artist (Performing)

14.2 Vudu - Louis Pasteur - Scientist (Microbiology)

14.3 BPB - Charles Dickens - Writer

14.4 TBBOM - Mohammed - Religious Leader

14.5 Volty - Isaac Newton - Scientist (Physics)

15.1 Volty - Jim Thorpe - Athlete

15.2 TBBOM - Wellington (Arthur Wellesley) General (Strategic)

15.3 BPB - Catherine the Great - Great Woman

15.4 Vudu - Benjamin Franklin - Jack-of-all-Trades

15.5 90sb - Amelia Earhart - Great Woman

16.1 90sb - Sacajawea - Great Woman

16.2 Vudu - William Orten - Dumb Focking Moron

[BiPolarBear 495]

Gentle readers, I hope you will forgive the breaching my own austere style comprised of making a historic pick and naming a category. I would like to give a small amount of information about my pick and make a comment on a pick made by a History Draft participant who will remain nameless.

 

I freely admit my bitterness, followed by a brief period of malaise, visited on me by the picking of Cleopatra in the Temptress category shortly ahead of my planned taking of said temptress. Cleopatra is a historic category killer in the temptress realm, not to be bested by another.

 

...at least that what I thought until I did a little studying of my own...in history (snort).

 

Cleopatra was a good woman and able states person who fell victim of a smear campaign! Naturally, I have a link:

 

http://historylists.org/people/top-10-most-unfairly-maligned-women-in-history.html

 

My pick, on the other hand is an actual temptress. Official documents were unsealed in 1970 confirming that (drum roll)

 

Mata Hari

 

worked for the Germans in World War One. She used her beauty and talents as an exotic dance to extract military secrets for which she was executed by firing squad in France. She refused the blindfold and had a dress made for the occasion.

 

There is your temptress, gentlemen. Documented, tried and executed as such.

 

http://aegisfilmgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MataHari2WhiteOPT.jpg

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I select the Emperor Diocletian, Reformer.

 

Diocletian /ˌdaɪ.əˈkliːʃən/ (Latin: Gaius Aurelius Valerius Diocletianus Augustus), born Diocles, (245–311)^[4][5] was a Roman emperor from 284 to 305. Born to a family of low status in the Roman province of Dalmatia, Diocletian rose through the ranks of the military to become cavalry commander to the Emperor Carus. After the deaths of Carus and his son Numerian on campaign in Persia, Diocletian was proclaimed emperor. The title was also claimed by Carus' other surviving son, Carinus, but Diocletian defeated him in the Battle of the Margus. Diocletian's reign stabilized the empire and marks the end of the Crisis of the Third Century. He appointed fellow officer Maximian as Augustus, co-emperor, in 286.

Diocletian delegated further on 1 March 293, appointing Galerius and Constantius as Caesars, junior co-emperors. Under this 'tetrarchy', or "rule of four", each emperor would rule over a quarter-division of the empire. Diocletian secured the empire's borders and purged it of all threats to his power. He defeated the Sarmatians and Carpi during several campaigns between 285 and 299, the Alamanni in 288, and usurpers in Egypt between 297 and 298. Galerius, aided by Diocletian, campaigned successfully against Sassanid Persia, the empire's traditional enemy. In 299 he sacked their capital, Ctesiphon. Diocletian led the subsequent negotiations and achieved a lasting and favorable peace.

Diocletian separated and enlarged the empire's civil and military services and reorganized the empire's provincial divisions, establishing the largest and most bureaucratic government in the history of the empire. He established new administrative centers in Nicomedia, Mediolanum, Antioch, and Trier, closer to the empire's frontiers than the traditional capital at Rome had been. Building on third-century trends towards absolutism, he styled himself an autocrat, elevating himself above the empire's masses with imposing forms of court ceremonies and architecture. Bureaucratic and military growth, constant campaigning, and construction projects increased the state's expenditures and necessitated a comprehensive tax reform. From at least 297 on, imperial taxation was standardized, made more equitable, and levied at generally higher rates.

Not all of Diocletian's plans were successful: the Edict on Maximum Prices (301), his attempt to curb inflation via price controls, was counterproductive and quickly ignored. Although effective while he ruled, Diocletian's tetrarchic system collapsed after his abdication under the competing dynastic claims of Maxentius and Constantine, sons of Maximian and Constantius respectively. The Diocletianic Persecution (303–11), the empire's last, largest, and bloodiest official persecution of Christianity, did not destroy the empire's Christian community; indeed, after 324 Christianity became the empire's preferred religion under its first Christian emperor, Constantine.

In spite of his failures, Diocletian's reforms fundamentally changed the structure of Roman imperial government and helped stabilize the empire economically and militarily, enabling the empire to remain essentially intact for another hundred years despite being near the brink of collapse in Diocletian's youth. Weakened by illness, Diocletian left the imperial office on 1 May 305, and became the first Roman emperor to abdicate the position voluntarily. He lived out his retirement in his palace on the Dalmatian coast, tending to his vegetable gardens. His palace eventually became the core of the modern-day city of Split.

[Voltaire 5,392]

16.5 Huang Di - Consolidator

 

The guy with the terracotta warriors at his tomb and the founder of a unified China after the warring states period

 

17.1 Confucius - Philosopher

 

His code of conduct regarding the family and political ethics among other things have shaped Eastern thought for over two millenia.

[Voltaire 5,392]

great pick bear. Totally not on my radar and should have been. Stories like this are why I wanted to do this.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I select Helen of Sparta, AKA Helen of Troy - Temptress

 

Perhaps the original bad b!tch. The "face that launched 1,000 ships" was so beautiful, that her father was deluged with suitors for her hand. Fearing that the rejected suitors would create a swarm of vengeful enemies, her father had to come up with a contest to choose her husband.

 

She ended up Marrying Menelaus, who through the marriage, became King of Sparta. He was brother to Agammemnon, King of Mycenae.

 

Eventually, Helen absconded with Paris, a Prince of Troy, a rich city on the Hellespont, affiliated with the Hittite Empire. This launched the Trojan War, which raged for years and killed many.

[BiPolarBear 495]

The Buddah - Religious Leader

 

About 500 million followers.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Religious Leader: Moses

 

This pick feels anti-climatic since Volty mentioned him a few posts ago, but here it is anyway.

 

Moses trumps Jesus IMO because Jesus and The New Testament wouldn't even exist if not for Moses and The Old Testament.

 

For the New Testament writers, the Old Testament was holy scripture. To tell the story of Jesus, those authors relied largely on the vocabulary and methods of reading scripture that already existed in the Jewish world. According to one scholarly estimate, the New Testament has more than 4,000 references to the Old Testament; thus the books of the Old Testament have been important for Christians and remain, in the words of the Second Vatican Council’s Dei Verbum (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation), “permanently valuable” because they were “written under divine inspiration.”

Many of these references are “according to the scriptures” and “fulfill what scripture said.” Christ’s birth, for example, “took place to fulfill what the Lord said through the prophet: ‘Behold, the virgin shall be with child and bear a son’ ” (Matt. 1:22-23). He said his last words on the cross “(in order to fulfill the scripture), ‘I am thirsty’ ” (John 19:28).

The key word here is “fulfill.” The New Testament authors, while valuing the Old Testament as revelation, saw Jesus to be the fulfillment of that revelation. For them God’s plan of salvation unfolded with the Israelites, then was added to and redefined by Christ. That meant the New Testament writers read the events of the Old Testament as looking forward to Christ as the Messiah of his people. For example: In the opening of Genesis, God spoke a divine word to create the world, so in the opening of the Gospel of John, God, in the Word of God, re-created and renewed the world.

- See more at: http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201402/what-relationship-between-old-and-new-testaments-28454#sthash.3cdbE4sn.dpuf

 

 

While the history of Judaism is filled with famous prophets and leaders-from Kings David and Solomon to the prophets Elijah and Ezekiel—no one man had more impact than did Moses, without whose guidance and leadership the modern Jewish religion would not exist. Something of a political heavyweight as a young man (having grown up in the Pharoah’s house and even being considered a shoo-in to ascend the throne one day) Moses apparently forsook all that and, being a Hebrew himself, decided to champion his own people in a quest to possess their own nation. This took him on something of a forty year odyssey, during which time he led—by some estimates—as many as a half-million men, woman, and children (though those numbers may be mistranslated or overblown), in a brutal trek to not only survive the harsh life of the desert, but restore the Jews to the land of Canaan. Supposedly responsible for penning the Torah (the most venerated of all Jewish writings and the basis for the first five books of the Old Testament), while Moses died—at the ripe old age of 120, no less—before he could set foot in the promised land, it was he who gave the Jews the moral and ethical underpinnings that would constitute the next thousand years of Jewish thought. By way of example of just how important he was—and to some extent remains today—to western religion and philosophy is that his ten commandments (there were actually many more than ten but who’s counting) remain the bedrock of western religious belief to this day.

 

[Voltaire 5,392]

....

 

Well I see I'm late to the religion party.

 

I figured, OK breathe. No problem. Since I happen to know that not only is Vishnu is big time in South Asia but he also has many hands available, I can still slap each of you simultaneously (and that rat-bastard TBBOM twice). I just have to go and read up on Hinduism.

 

So who is it, I wonder that is the founder of Hinduism. I'm in the mood for some of that Karma Sutra lovin'. I'm ready to sing the praises of the many benefits of the caste system. So I follow this link here:

 

http://hinduismfacts.org/founder-of-hinduism/

 

It just emerged?!?! No Founder?!?! You're joking I need a better link. Oh Fock. Wrong answer. No! No! No! No!

 

It seems in this game of musical chairs that I am left standing. I was counting on the focking Hindus to provide a firewall but they didn't have my back at all. It's OK though. I'm not throwing in the towel just yet. I'm just putting the category on the backburner for a bit.

[Voltaire 5,392]

I think if you're gone all afternoon/evening, then around 9:30 AM local time the next morning is time to skip. I'm thinking James missed all day and it's bedtime in Florida now so I'd be surorised to get a pick in soon.

 

Skipping is at most two rounds and eight total picks for before we stall again back at the person who missed the pick.

[Voltaire 5,392]

I've got some ideas for more categories. It'd take unanimous consent to implement any new categories so late.

 

1) Bust up 'criminal' into two categories: 'good criminal' and 'bad criminal.'

 

This was inspired by seeing Nelson Mandela plugged in as a 'criminal' rather than 'reformer' which was really cool. I hadn't intended the category to be used that way. It was supposed to be a bad guy category much less intense than evil motherfockers, more along the lines of gangsters/pirates/bandits/thugs conducting business outside the law. Mandela opens it up to righteous people persecuted/executed/imprisoned for a cause. My mind wasn't clicking that way when we started but I'd have added it for sure.

 

2) Bust up writer into two categories 'fiction writer' and 'non-fiction writer'

 

Self explanatory.

 

3) 90sbaby suggested a 'fictional character' category. He liked the idea of Shakespeare characters, JTB's suggestion of cartoons didn't go over so well. I'll let him flesh out how he wants that.

 

Again, these have to be by unanimous consent. Any one of us can kill the suggestions by voting against them.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Vudu, if you're around at 9:30 AM eastern (45 minutes from now) and 90sbaby hasn't shown up, just go again.

 

90sbaby can jump in at any time but if not, we'll pause again at 19.5 if he's not back before then.

[vuduchile 1,945]

I vote against changing the criminal category because it takes the shine off my "clever" first round pick in that category and would cause me to completely alter my strategy.

 

I'm good with adding the fictional character category. I'm also good with the cartoon character category. I think that would be fun.

 

I'm also good with creating a non-fiction writer category.

 

However, I think it's only fair that we don't start drafting for any of those new categories until it gets back to the Volty's pick at the top of the order.

 

My next pick is:

 

Great Woman: Florence Nightingale

 

Born 12 May 1820, Florence, Grand Duchy of Tuscany. Died 13 August 1910 (aged 90),Park Lane, London, United Kingdom. Profession: Nurse and Statistician. Institutions: Selimiye Barracks, Scutari Specialism Hospital hygiene and sanitation. Known for Pioneering modern nursing.

Florence Nightingale, OM, RRC; 12 May 1820 – 13 August 1910) was a celebrated English nurse, writer and statistician. A Christian universalist, Nightingale believed that God had called her to be a nurse. She came to prominence for her pioneering work in nursing during the Crimean War, where she tended to wounded soldiers. She was dubbed "The Lady with the Lamp" after her habit of making rounds at night.

Nightingale laid the foundation of professional nursing with the establishment, in 1860, of her nursing school at St Thomas' Hospital in London, the first secular nursing school in the world. The Nightingale Pledge taken by new nurses was named in her honour, and the annual International Nurses Day is celebrated around the world on her birthday.

Florence Nightingale's two greatest life achievements--pioneering of nursing and the reform of hospitals--were amazing considering that most Victorian women of her age group did not attend universities or pursue professional careers.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Took me an hour and a half to get in. I do check bored nomo as well.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Yeah hamster issues are pretty steep right now. Again a link to Ed's : http://nomoregfiafp.boards.net/thread/1016/second-home-geek-history-draft?page=2#scrollTo=18382

[Voltaire 5,392]

Yeah hamster issues are pretty steep right now. Again a link to Ed's : http://nomoregfiafp.boards.net/thread/1016/second-home-geek-history-draft?page=2#scrollTo=18382

[Mookz 1,360]

Well you sure as heck better add some categories. Draft is dangerously short.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Well you sure as heck better add some categories. Draft is dangerously short.

 

The objedctive is to be comprehensive rather than concise.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Ant | Man

A boy that had already decided that the study of nature would be his life's work went fishing off a dock in Florida. A fin from a pinfish:

http://myfwc.com/media/87631/saltwater_pinfish.jpg

pierced his eye. He did not seek medical attention and as a result, lost the cornea of his left eye. This event meant that he had no depth perception to view nature at a distance, but needed to concentrate on something he could view close up with his remaining eye. Luckily for him the eye he was left with had 20/10 focus.

His work was the study of insects, with a focus on social insects such as ants. There are about 10 trillion ants on Earth with a weight equal to that of the human population. As he studied the ants social network, parallels between ants and humans became evident. Eusocial creatures have a common purpose and bond. 19 eusocial organisms are identified by this scientist 16 of them are insects and another eusocial organism is man (Mole Rats will be another, but I haven't looked up the last eusocial organisms)

So my category candidate started applying his knowledge of social structure with a broader stroke and came up with the field of Sociobiology. His application of these principles to humans was not popular. He claims to be the only scientist physically attacked for his beliefs in modern times. He laughs when he brings this up. (pitcher of ice water pored over head)

E.O. Wilson - Social Scientist

Harvard staff, United States National Medal of Science Laureate, The "father of Sociobiology", The "father of Biodiversity".

He is a two-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction and a New York Times bestseller for The Social Conquest of Earth, Letters to a Young Scientist, and The Meaning of Human Existence.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Plos_wilson.jpg/220px-Plos_wilson.jpg

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

Leif Eriksson - explorer

Rembrandt - Artist

[Voltaire 5,392]

That's a good write up. I've seen that name E.O. Wilson around, I wasn't familiar with it though or remember he specifics of what I was reading.

 

Also glad to see 90sbaby is back and didn't miss much.

 

TBBOM and I were chatting back and forth twenty mins ago but he's not responding to my posts. Maybe he's got a nice write up coming in (hopefully).

[Voltaire 5,392]

Rembrandt is a great pick. I was getting tempted to revisit the category by I've got too many other holes that need plugging.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Rembrandt is a great pick. I was getting tempted to revisit the category by I've got too many other holes that need plugging.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Artist

 

Georgia O'Keeffe. Because of all the vagina paintings.

 

Check 'em out

 

Google georgia o'keeffe paintings images

[Voltaire 5,392]

Two Nicholases back to back. Try to guess them before scrolling down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Niccolo Machiavelli - adviser

 

I may move him to Social Scientist later. I always thought he was an a$$hole but his influence is everywhere. Political Ethics or lack thereof.

 

Nicholaus Copernicus - Scientist (Astronomy)

 

discoverer of the heliocentric solar system. The Earth goes around the sun and not the other way around. He was fearful of persecution for publishing this (Galileo would soon see why) and did so only from his deathbed.

[BiPolarBear 495]

No TBBOM pick, or have I lost track?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Since it appears I have two picks, I'll make them both.

 

Vincent van goh. Visual artist.

 

Karl Marx. Social scientist.

[Voltaire 5,392]

No TBBOM pick, or have I lost track?

With much sadness, last night I found the magic boot that extracts picks out of TBBOM every time I kick him with it was broken. Thus far this morning, we've seen only one pick from him, not two.

[Voltaire 5,392]

Since it appears I have two picks, I'll make them both.

 

Vincent van goh. Visual artist.

 

Karl Marx. Social scientist.

you get 1+1, not 1+2.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

What? I only made two picks.

 

And I was swimming in the ocean till 1:30 am. Didn't take my phone for obvious reaons. When I logged back into this piece of sh!t, it wasn't my turn yet.

[Voltaire 5,392]

What? I only made two picks.

 

And I was swimming in the ocean till 1:30 am. Didn't take my phone for obvious reaons. When I logged back into this piece of sh!t, it wasn't my turn yet.

Oh.. sorry. my mistake. The Georgia O'Keeffe selection threw me off. It was made by vudu, not you. Vudu must have saw 90sbaby made a pick and went, but those were makeup picks.

 

Then I saw you were online because you had posted elsewhere and was anticipating the pick. It came in... but it came in from somebody else.

 

OK, everything is almost straight.

 

me and TBBOM are in, so Bear is up. vudu has jumped the gun to pick O'Keeffe. So after Bear, vudu's pick becomes official and it goes to 90sbaby.

[kutulu 1,692]

Dirty Harry

[Voltaire 5,392]

Artist

 

Georgia O'Keeffe. Because of all the vagina paintings.

 

Check 'em out

 

Google georgia o'keeffe paintings images

 

Those aren't flowers? Almost all of them are flowers... only a few flowers are maybe a bit more ambigous than flowers.

[vuduchile 1,945]

 

Those aren't flowers? Almost all of them are flowers... only a few flowers are maybe a bit more ambigous than flowers.

A bit?

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

Harriet Tubman - Reformer

 

Emile Durkheim - Scientists (social)

[Voltaire 5,392]

We're still on BPB's turn and but it's nice having names (unofficially) in the kitty.

 

OK to clairify. Bear is on the clock at 19.3 with three early picks skipping him: Vudu's O'Keffee and 90sbaby's Tubman and Durkheim.

 

If Bear takes somebody other than those three, everything is straightened out. 19.4, 19.5, and 20.1 all come in. It then goes to vudu at 20.2 then back to bear 20.3 then TBBOM 20.4.

 

If he takes one then we've got to straighten out more.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Well the power that I wield is intoxicating indeed. After a small amount of reflection on the matter, I have decided I will be stealing a pick from one of those who have picked out of turn. I will be back shortly with my decision.