***Geek Club History Draft***

[BiPolarBear 495]

When up to 90 percent of the people killed by drones are unintended targets, we put a label on them that says they were enemy accomplices of some sort. They may look more like a beloved uncle who was having a cup of coffee or a child playing outside to the people who knew them. It's O.K. Those people will probably forget who sent the machines to kill them and not bother to attack us on our soil. They need to understand that the actual target was a senior Al-Qaeda operative. By that we mean he was a British Citizen with a wife and new baby in England. He had posed with his AK and gone to bomb making classes in the Middle East, that is for sure. But a senior operative? I am sure his son will grow up to appreciate that we did what we had to do.

 

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers

 

The information in the link above was provided by a criminal currently living in Russia. He never looked to get rich and gave up his whole life to share the truth with the world. I think he has lots of data left to share. In the process, we will get a clearer picture of who we are as a Nation.

 

Edward Snowden - Good Criminal

[Voltaire 5,391]

Putting round 36 in the books means that we are 1/4 of the way on our epic journey through history. Thank you to my fellow travelers for seeing this vision through. I hope you're enjoying this as much as I am.

[BiPolarBear 495]

 

Wow. Guess I really will be using the lady from Popeye's in the Great Women category!

[Voltaire 5,391]

By th way, the "Good Criminal" category was voted down. It remains just 'criminal'.

[Voltaire 5,391]

At 9:30 Eastern, 90sbaby can go if Vudu isn't back. So three more hours.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Athlete:

 

Muhammad Ali aka Cassius Clay

 

[Voltaire 5,391]

The #1 athlete left on my board. With so many other holes, I wasn't planning to revisit this category again any time soon but when I did get around to it, Muhammad Ali is where I would have gone with it. Great pick.

 

I only have the name of one person that 90sbaby wants not two.

[frank 2,328]

I was going to put Marco Polo in as my #1 talk show guest pretty soon. He may have the best life story of all time.

 

Lamar Odom.

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (scientist - other) - was an American computer scientist who is credited for shaping and pioneering the digital era. He created the most commonly used C programming language that is used today in various software applications, embedded system development, operating systems, and has influenced most modern programming languages.

Dennis also co-created the UNIX operating system. For his work, in 1983 he received the Turing Award from the ACM, the Hamming Medal in 1990 from the IEEE and in 1999 the National Medal of Technology from President Clinton. He was the head of Lucent Technologies System Software Research Department when he retired in 2007. He passed away on October 12, 2011 causing the Fedora 16 Linux distribution to be released in his memory.

 

Linus Benedict Torvalds (scientist - other) - Is a Finnish American software engineer, who was the principal driving force behind the development of the Linux kernel. Its creation itself is attributed towards him and he later became the chief architect of the Linux kernel, and is now the project’s coordinator.

Linus was honored with the 2012 Millennium Technology Prize by the Technology Academy Finland because of his creation of a new open source operating system for computers leading to the wide spread use of Linux kernel. He also created the ever popular distrbuted version control system called Git in 2005,as well as the diving log software Subsurface.

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By the way love the Edward Snowden pick BPB I was going to pick him had I not picked Madoff.

[jerryskids 6,974]

I really like the way BPB presents his selections; more than just wiki articles, he builds the anticipation.

[Voltaire 5,391]

I really like the way BPB presents his selections; more than just wiki articles, he builds the anticipation.

I do too. I'd do it myself but I get lazy. Also even with effort, I don't know that my talent is there either.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Social Scientist:

 

Auguste Comte – He was the first to coin the term “social science” in the nineteenth century. He was a French philosopher who believed in the concept of positivism, or that the collected senses made up all worthwhile information.

 

Philosopher Auguste Comte was born on January 19, 1798, in Paris, France. He was born in the shadow of the French Revolution and as modern science and technology gave birth to the Industrial Revolution. During this time, European society experienced violent conflict and feelings of alienation. Confidence in established beliefs and institutions was shattered. Comte spent much of his life developing a philosophy for a new social order amidst all the chaos and uncertainty.

 

 

[BiPolarBear 495]

If you can hold off the Roman Navy for years with your inventions, you don't need to wait hundreds of years to become famous. People know about you during your lifetime. War machines were only a side job. He was a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, engineer, and inventor.

Some of his contributions:

• invented the sciences of mechanics and hydrostatics.

• discovered the laws of levers and pulleys, which allow us to move heavy objects using small forces.

• invented one of the most fundamental concepts of physics – the center of gravity.

• calculated pi to the most precise value known. His upper limit for pi was the fraction 22⁄7. This value was still in use in the late 20th century, until electronic calculators finally laid it to rest.

• discovered and mathematically proved the formulas for the volume and surface area of a sphere.

• showed how exponents could be used to write bigger numbers than had ever been thought of before.

• proved that to multiply numbers written as exponents, the exponents should be added together.

• invented the Archimedean Screw to pull water out of the ground – the device is still used around the world.

• infuriated mathematicians who tried to replicate his discoveries 18 centuries later – they could not understand how Archimedes had achieved his results.

• directly inspired Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton to investigate the mathematics of motion. Archimedes’ surviving works (tragically, many have been lost) finally made it into print in 1544. Leonardo da Vinci was lucky enough to have seen some of the hand-copied works of Archimedes before they were eventually printed.

• was one of the world’s first mathematical physicists, applying his advanced mathematics to the physical world.

• was the first person to apply lessons from physics – such as the law of the lever – to solve problems in pure mathematics.

• invented war machines such as a highly accurate catapult, which stopped the Romans conquering Syracuse for years. It’s now believed he may have done this by understanding the mathematics of projectile trajectory.

• became famous throughout the ancient world for his brilliant mind – so famous that we cannot be sure that everything he is said to have done is true.

• inspired what we now believe are myths including a mirror system to burn attacking ships using the sun’s rays, and jumping from his bath, and running naked through the streets of Syracuse shouting ‘Eureka’ meaning ‘I’ve found it’ after realizing how to prove whether the king’s gold crown had silver in it.

 

Archimedes - Jack of All Trades

[Voltaire 5,391]

Another beautiful writeup. After all that effort, its painful to say that I can't color him green, Archemedes went to 90sbaby at 22.1

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

 

If you can hold off the Roman Navy for years with your inventions, you don't need to wait hundreds of years to become famous. People know about you during your lifetime. War machines were only a side job. He was a mathematician, physicist, astronomer, engineer, and inventor.

Some of his contributions:

• invented the sciences of mechanics and hydrostatics.

• discovered the laws of levers and pulleys, which allow us to move heavy objects using small forces.

• invented one of the most fundamental concepts of physics – the center of gravity.

• calculated pi to the most precise value known. His upper limit for pi was the fraction 22⁄7. This value was still in use in the late 20th century, until electronic calculators finally laid it to rest.

• discovered and mathematically proved the formulas for the volume and surface area of a sphere.

• showed how exponents could be used to write bigger numbers than had ever been thought of before.

• proved that to multiply numbers written as exponents, the exponents should be added together.

• invented the Archimedean Screw to pull water out of the ground – the device is still used around the world.

• infuriated mathematicians who tried to replicate his discoveries 18 centuries later – they could not understand how Archimedes had achieved his results.

• directly inspired Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton to investigate the mathematics of motion. Archimedes’ surviving works (tragically, many have been lost) finally made it into print in 1544. Leonardo da Vinci was lucky enough to have seen some of the hand-copied works of Archimedes before they were eventually printed.

• was one of the world’s first mathematical physicists, applying his advanced mathematics to the physical world.

• was the first person to apply lessons from physics – such as the law of the lever – to solve problems in pure mathematics.

• invented war machines such as a highly accurate catapult, which stopped the Romans conquering Syracuse for years. It’s now believed he may have done this by understanding the mathematics of projectile trajectory.

• became famous throughout the ancient world for his brilliant mind – so famous that we cannot be sure that everything he is said to have done is true.

• inspired what we now believe are myths including a mirror system to burn attacking ships using the sun’s rays, and jumping from his bath, and running naked through the streets of Syracuse shouting ‘Eureka’ meaning ‘I’ve found it’ after realizing how to prove whether the king’s gold crown had silver in it.

 

Archimedes - Jack of All Trades

 

 

Thanks, I loved my pick too. But I after that I would like Archimedes moved to Jack of all trades instead of Engineer, thanks.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Archimedes is already taken. Round 22

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

Jeff can I have Archimedes moved to JOAT instead of Engineer? He is much more valuable as a JOAT, I still have many engineers on my "draft list" but not many JOAT.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I will select the marquis de Sade, talk show guest

 

A noted philosopher, he can carry a conversation. But the real draw, of course, is his sexual deviance, so notorious that his name is the basis for sadism. He used crosses in his play, sodomozed multiple servants of both genders in one session, and once cut a hooker and dripped candle wax into the open wounds.

 

And that's just the stuff he got caught for.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Ill go ahead and skip volty. I'm pretty sure he won't take this guy

 

Tsutomu Yamaguchi - talk show guest

 

Tsutomu Yamaguchi (山口 彊 Yamaguchi Tsutomu?) (March 16, 1916 January 4, 2010) was a survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings during World War II. Although at least 160 people are known to have been affected by both bombings,[1] he is the only person to have been officially recognized by the government of Japan as surviving both explosions.[2]

 

A resident of Nagasaki, Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on business for his employer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries when the city was bombed at 8:15 am, on August 6, 1945. He returned to Nagasaki the following day, and despite his wounds, he returned to work on August 9, the day of the second atomic bombing. That morning he was telling his supervisor how one bomb had destroyed the city, to which his supervisor told him that he was crazy, and at that moment the Nagasaki bomb detonated.[3] In 1957, he was recognized as a hibakusha (explosion-affected person) of the Nagasaki bombing, but it was not until March 24, 2009, that the government of Japan officially recognized his presence in Hiroshima three days earlier. He died of stomach cancer on January 4, 2010, at the age of 93.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Another beautiful writeup. After all that effort, its painful to say that I can't color him green, Archemedes went to 90sbaby at 22.1

 

I am turning green with dumb. I actually checked around and missed 90sbaby's pick. My apologies. I have another waiting... be back in a flash.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Jewish Quotas mean that very few Jews could get into medical school. Dean Milton Winternitz of Yale Medical School summed it up precisely; "Never admit more than five Jews, take only two Italian Catholics, and take no blacks at all." Many Jewish students, as well as others who were not born White Protestants, enrolled at places like New York University. Once you get your degree and want to work, guess what? Your not a White Protestant! There is a hiring quota on the jobs too. Some of the medical research jobs were not open to a Jew at all.

That is a pretty tough start for a guy that sat on a park bench after he had finally gotten a research job and watched children playing in a park. He decided he wasn't working hard enough to help them and worked 16 hours a day 7 days a week for years from that day on.

At the time, after the Atomic Bomb, what the public was most scared of was a particular disease. Imagine the money you could make by patenting the cure. He had poured his whole life into his work and sure had some money coming. This Jew never applied for a patent because he wanted the cure to be available to as many people as possible world wide, at a low cost.

Church bells rang, businesses close for the day to celebrate, some people went to church while others drank toast. The cure was a national celebration and the guy who did it would not accept a ticker tape parade to honor him in New York. If you ask me, that Jew let the world off damn cheap.

Jonas Salk - Scientist (other)

Salk is on the short list for people snubbed by the Nobel Prize. The Salk Institute however, has three Nobel Laureates on staff right now. Another three were on staff in the past and five more Nobel Laureates were trained at the Salk Institute. Sometimes you can't keep a good Jew down. Thank you for making the world safe from polio in such a selfless and humble way.

[Voltaire 5,391]

Salk was one of two names I was kicking around for my next doctor choice and Sade is a great choice for talk show guest.

 

Rolling with I'm not sure how to call him:

 

St. Paul? Paul of Tarsus? Paul the Apostle?

 

Paul the Apostle - Religious Leader.

 

I skipped Jesus at #1 for two reasons. I wanted a surefire #1 and I didn't know if he'd win the category since Muhammad makes a great claim for the top religion spot. TBBOM solved that problem by also taking Muhammad later himself.

 

The other was of Paul.

 

Jesus didn't write anything down. He'd travelled in a small area in his life. Much if his followers thought the salvation he offered was meant only for the Jews. Christianity may well have been only wound up being a small subset of Judaism.

 

Paul had a lot of energy and he started out using that energy as the worst persecutor of the Christians around. Then he had his coming to Jesus moment on the road to Damascus and became the biggest and most successful proponent of Chistianity in history.

 

While others thought Christianity should be reserved for Jews, Paul wanted to spread Christianity everywhere to everyone. He felt salvation through God was meant for the Gentiles as well. And he worked tirelessly to make it so. Paul set up churches all throughout the Roman empire.

 

No Christian, Paul certainly included, would ever say that Paul is more important to Christianity than Jesus. I'm not a Christian though and so can be a bit blasphemous ... he's kind of like what Roy Kroc was to the McDonald brothers hamburger idea. A tireless marketing genius motived by his own spirituality, he took Christianity and spread it everywhere. He has a message, he was on fire with it, and it exploded onto the international scene vastly due to his influence. And he also left his stamp on it permanently since he personally wrote much of what would become the New Testament.

[Voltaire 5,391]

Simón Bolívar - Statesman

 

He liberated a continent.

 

He was a Venezuelan military and political leader who played an instrumental role in the establishment of Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Peru and Colombia as sovereign states, independent of Spanish rule.

 

Bolívar was born into a wealthy, aristocratic Creole family, and similar to others of his day, he was educated in Europe at a young age, arriving in Spain at the age of 16. There, he was introduced to the thoughts and ideas of learned Enlightenment philosophers, which inspired him with the ambition to replace the Spanish as rulers. Taking advantage of the disorder in Spain prompted by the Peninsular War, Bolívar inaugurated his campaign for independence in 1808, and within three years an organized national congress had been established. Despite a number of hindrances, including the arrival of an unprecedented large Spanish expeditionary force, the revolutionaries eventually prevailed, culminating in a patriot victory at the Battle of Carabobo in 1821, which effectively made Venezuela his.

 

Following this triumph over the Spanish monarchy, Bolívar participated in the foundation of the first union of independent nations in Latin America, Gran Colombia, of which he was president from 1819 to 1830. Through further military conquest, he also conquered Ecuador, Peru, and finally, Bolivia (which was named after him), assuming the presidency of each of these new nations. At the peak of his power, Bolívar ruled over a vast territory from the Argentine border to the Caribbean.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Ill go ahead and skip volty. I'm pretty sure he won't take this guy

 

Tsutomu Yamaguchi - talk show guest

 

Tsutomu Yamaguchi (山口 彊 Yamaguchi Tsutomu?) (March 16, 1916 January 4, 2010) was a survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings during World War II. Although at least 160 people are known to have been affected by both bombings,[1] he is the only person to have been officially recognized by the government of Japan as surviving both explosions.[2]

 

A resident of Nagasaki, Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on business for his employer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries when the city was bombed at 8:15 am, on August 6, 1945. He returned to Nagasaki the following day, and despite his wounds, he returned to work on August 9, the day of the second atomic bombing. That morning he was telling his supervisor how one bomb had destroyed the city, to which his supervisor told him that he was crazy, and at that moment the Nagasaki bomb detonated.[3] In 1957, he was recognized as a hibakusha (explosion-affected person) of the Nagasaki bombing, but it was not until March 24, 2009, that the government of Japan officially recognized his presence in Hiroshima three days earlier. He died of stomach cancer on January 4, 2010, at the age of 93.

Very strange that you picked this guy. When I made the Truman pick, I was thinking about how I'd heard this guy's story several years ago from a Japanese friend of mine.

 

I didn't remember his name but had him penciled in as a wildcard pick at some point.

 

He's a much better fit for talk show guest

 

Well done.

[jerryskids 6,974]

Hey Voltaire, just wanted to let you know that you did a great job with your own descriptions of St. Paul (ballsy pick btw) and Bolivar. Keep up the good work.

[BiPolarBear 495]

 

Tsutomu Yamaguchi - talk show guest

 

 

 

A resident of Nagasaki, Yamaguchi was in Hiroshima on business for his employer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries when the city was bombed at 8:15 am, on August 6, 1945.

 

Mitsubishi makes cars now, but back then they produced the remarkable engine that powered the Japanese Zero.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Toyota didn't start out with any success in the U.S. market. Here is why:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/1957_Toyopet_Crown_01.jpg

It was so heavy and under powered, you needed to find a freeway on-ramp that ran down hill so you could pick up enough speed to merge.

The Japanese auto industry did a huge turn around along with many other manufactures in Japan, and things got better thanks to an American adviser:

http://www.bre2.net/mm5/graphics/00000001/bre2_510_46_riverside_morton_001_lgt.jpg

That is race car driver John Morton. He won races in a Datsun and the Japanese just spazzed out to see that they could win in America against the best cars from all over the world. John Morton did not specialize in driving small cars with small displacement engines. John specialized in going fast. Not that I know much about such things...can somebody tell me; are 427 Shelby Cobras and 962 Porches fast?

Detroit went from laughing at poor quality and design coming out of Japan to wondering how the F the Japanese were making such good cars. They took a Datsun 510 apart and couldn't find anything unusual. Ford customers had noticed that one of the models had either a transmission made in American, or an identical one made in Japan. They would wait months to get a car with a Japanese transmission. The specs on both transmissions were the same. They were identical.

Well, actually they were not. Every part in the Japanese transmission was manufactured to a tighter tolerance than the American counterpart. The Japanese transmission fit together better, so it operated better and lasted longer. When Detroit tore the 510 apart, they missed the fact that the whole car was built like Ford's Japanese transmission.

When Ford was in big trouble, they hired the adviser the Japanese had used. They thought he was going to teach them about manufacturing processes, but instead he taught them about management. He turned Ford around with ideas like these:

Create and communicate to all employees a statement of the aims and purposes of the company.

Adapt to the new philosophy of the day; industries and economics are always changing.

Build quality into a product throughout production.

End the practice of awarding business on the basis of price tag alone; instead, try a long-term relationship based on established loyalty and trust.

Work to constantly improve quality and productivity.

Institute on-the-job training.

Teach and institute leadership to improve all job functions.

Drive out fear; create trust.

Strive to reduce intradepartmental conflicts.

Eliminate exhortations for the work force; instead, focus on the system and morale.

Eliminate work standard quotas for production. Substitute leadership methods for improvement.

Eliminate MBO. Avoid numerical goals. Alternatively, learn the capabilities of processes, and how to improve them.

Remove barriers that rob people of pride of workmanship

Educate with self-improvement programs.

Include everyone in the company to accomplish the transformation.

The transformation of the modern industrial age is largely due to:

Dr. W. Edward Deming - Adviser

This is the highest award Japan can bestow on a foreigner:

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[Voltaire 5,391]

Skipping Vudu, I have picks ready from 90sbaby...

 

Two mates from down undah ..

 

Edmund Hillary - Explorer

 

First to the top of Mt. Everest. 6'6 I hadn't realized he was so tall until now.

 

Steve Irwin - Artist (performing)

 

Of Crocodile Hunter fame, died tragically a few years back during shooting when a manta ray stung him in the heart. Actually I don't know if this pick is performer or scientist.

 

Bear can go.

[vuduchile 1,945]

 

 

Talk show guest

 

PORFIRIO RUBIROSA

 

This stylish Argentine rogue of Italian descent ranks as the ultimate playboy as gigolo of the last century. The son of an Argentine army officer, Rubirosa was an outstanding international class polo player as well as one of Europe's most mesmerising and celebrated jet setters of the forties and fifties.

 

Married for a time to Barbar Hutton, the heir to a fortune of several hundred million dollars, Rubirosa was fabled not merely for his abundant charm, but also for a that has variously been described as horse-like and salami-shaped. In her memoirs, Hutton wrote that Rubirosa was grotesquely proportioned.

 

Not only was the length and thickness of his appendage of staggering proportions, but his testicles apparently were so large that he never wore underwear, finding them too painful and constricting! So legendary was his that celebrities in Hollywood would ask for the "Rubirosa" in restaurants as a synonym for the foot-long sized peppermill!

[vuduchile 1,945]

Talk show guest

 

J Edgar Hoover

 

He knew everybody's dirty secrets. Think of the stories this guy could tell.

 

The biggest question is who the hell would do the interview?

[iam90sbaby 2,720]

I wanted Steve Irwin under performer he changed the game, actually made watching animal documentaries interesting.

[Voltaire 5,391]

Talk show guest

 

J Edgar Hoover

 

He knew everybody's dirty secrets. Think of the stories this guy could tell.

 

The biggest question is who the hell would do the interview?

Walter Winchell of course, what a nightmare combo they would be.

[BiPolarBear 495]

 

Martin Luther - Reformer

 

Probably the most relevant of our times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last name: King

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Larry page - businessman

 

Founder of Google, his company went from "wtf is that?" To a ubiquitous verb over night. Then came android. Next up: self driving cars.

[BiPolarBear 495]

Larry page - businessman

 

Founder of Google, his company went from "wtf is that?" To a ubiquitous verb over night. Then came android. Next up: self driving cars.

 

He was my 26.3 pick, along with his partner.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

 

Re-do

 

Cardinal Thomas Wolsey - Advisor

[Voltaire 5,391]

Uh oh.... highjackers ...

 

We interrupt this draft for a message directly to the American people from our next pick (dated November 1, 2004)

 

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Praise be to Allah who created the creation for his worship and commanded them to be just and permitted the wronged one to retaliate against the oppressor in kind. To proceed:

 

Peace be upon he who follows the guidance: People of America this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan, and deals with the war and its causes and results.

 

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom.

 

If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example - Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 - may Allah have mercy on them.

 

No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.

 

No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it happening again.

 

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.

 

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.

 

I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

 

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

 

I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

 

The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

 

In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

 

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and intolerance.

 

This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.

 

So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?

 

Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us. This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed, repeatedly, for years before September 11th.

 

And you can read this, if you wish, in my interview with Scott in Time Magazine in 1996, or with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997, or my meeting with John Weiner in 1998. You can observe it practically, if you wish, in Kenya and Tanzania and in Aden. And you can read it in my interview with Abdul Bari Atwan, as well as my interviews with Robert Fisk.

 

The latter is one of your compatriots and co-religionists and I consider him to be neutral. So are the pretenders of freedom at the White House and the channels controlled by them able to run an interview with him? So that he may relay to the American people what he has understood from us to be the reasons for our fight against you?

 

If you were to avoid these reasons, you will have taken the correct path that will lead America to the security that it was in before September 11th. This concerned the causes of the war.

 

As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. This is due to many factors, chief among them, that we have found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half which are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

 

Our experience with them is lengthy, and both types are replete with those who are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth. This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Sr to the region.

 

At a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries, all of a sudden he was affected by those monarchies and military regimes, and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the nation without supervision or accounting.

 

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act, under the pretence of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.

 

All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

 

This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat.

 

All Praise is due to Allah.

 

So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.

 

That being said, those who say that al-Qaida has won against the administration in the White House or that the administration has lost in this war have not been precise, because when one scrutinises the results, one cannot say that al-Qaida is the sole factor in achieving those spectacular gains.

 

Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations - whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction - has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous results.

 

And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States, even if the intentions differ.

 

And it was to these sorts of notions and their like that the British diplomat and others were referring in their lectures at the Royal Institute of International Affairs. [When they pointed out that] for example, al-Qaida spent $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost - according to the lowest estimate - more than $500 billion.

 

Meaning that every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

 

And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujahidin recently forced Bush to RESORT to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan - with Allah's permission.

 

It is true that this shows that al-Qaida has gained, but on the other hand, it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something of which anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. And it all shows that the real loser is ... you.

 

It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice.

 

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

 

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations - all praise is due to Allah.

 

And it's no secret to you that the thinkers and perceptive ones from among the Americans warned Bush before the war and told him: "All that you want for securing America and removing the weapons of mass destruction - assuming they exist - is available to you, and the nations of the world are with you in the inspections, and it is in the interest of America that it not be thrust into an unjustified war with an unknown outcome."

But the darkness of the black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future. He fits the saying "like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth".

 

So I say to you, over 15,000 of our people have been killed and tens of thousands injured, while more than a thousand of you have been killed and more than 10,000 injured. And Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all those killed from both sides, all for the sake of oil and keeping their private companies in business.

 

Be aware that it is the nation who punishes the weak man when he causes the killing of one of its citizens for money, while letting the powerful one get off, when he causes the killing of more than 1000 of its sons, also for money.

 

And the same goes for your allies in Palestine. They terrorise the women and children, and kill and capture the men as they lie sleeping with their families on the mattresses, that you may recall that for every action, there is a reaction.

 

Finally, it behoves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are important testaments, which should be studied and researched.

 

Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their gestures before the collapse, where they say: "How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak without supervision."

 

It is as if they were telling you, the people of America: "Hold to account those who have caused us to be killed, and happy is he who learns from others' mistakes."

 

And among that which I read in their gestures is a verse of poetry. "Injustice chases its people, and how unhealthy the bed of tyranny."

As has been said: "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure."

 

And know that: "It is better to return to the truth than persist in error." And that the wise man doesn't squander his security, wealth and children for the sake of the liar in the White House.

 

In conclusion, I tell you in truth, that your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No.

 

Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security.

And Allah is our Guardian and Helper, while you have no Guardian or Helper. All peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.

[Voltaire 5,391]

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40.5 Osama bin Laden - Criminal

 

The man became the obsession of the American govenment setting off a decade long manhunt that cost $billions and triggered a war, indirectly a second one. The head of the al Quaeda, the terrorist snake had put himself under house arrest hiding (*wink* *wink* cough cough) right under the noses of the Pakistani military who were happily collecting big $US while "looking for" rather than "attempting to find" him.

[Voltaire 5,391]

41.1 Socrates - Philosopher

 

He's kind of fallen compared to the other two of ancient Greece's big three. I suspect it's because he didn't write anything down. We know a lot about him though because of his students Plato and Xenophon as well as Aristophanes.

 

I didn't need a philosopher, he is my third, but I'm happy he was still here and have too much respect and admiration to leave him laying about any longer.

 

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Through his portrayal in Plato's dialogues, Socrates has become renowned for his contribution to the field of ethics, and it is this Platonic Socrates who lends his name to the concepts of Socratic irony and the Socratic method, or elenchus. The latter remains a commonly used tool in a wide range of discussions, and is a type of pedagogy in which a series of questions is asked not only to draw individual answers, but also to encourage fundamental insight into the issue at hand. Plato's Socrates also made important and lasting contributions to the field of epistemology, and the influence of his ideas and approach remains a strong foundation for much western philosophy that followed.

[Voltaire 5,391]

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41.2 Empress Dowager Cixi - Great woman

 

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