Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, shadrap said: so what's new? https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/steven-avery/2022/08/16/making-a-murderer-steven-avery-attorney-kathleen-zellner-says-shell-file-new-motion/10335936002/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted August 28, 2023 I am rewatching this, and I haven't read this thread... But now in 2022...what's your take? Did he kill Teresa? In watching it now, I am finding the timeline of events from his first arrest (and the cops and everyone focking up) to this girl being murdered is kind of interesting. And who gets out after 10 plus years, kills someone knowing that they'd go back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I am rewatching this, and I haven't read this thread... But now in 2022...what's your take? Did he kill Teresa? In watching it now, I am finding the timeline of events from his first arrest (and the cops and everyone focking up) to this girl being murdered is kind of interesting. And who gets out after 10 plus years, kills someone knowing that they'd go back? I think it was the kid's brother. The cops were every dirty in this case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted August 28, 2023 He had a great career with the Braves and then thew it all away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted August 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I think it was the kid's brother. The cops were every dirty in this case. This is kind of what I think too. Weird that the DNA was found in interesting places (like her car). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, TheNewGirl said: This is kind of what I think too. Weird that the DNA was found in interesting places (like her car). I think the cops planted blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I think it was the kid's brother. The cops were every dirty in this case. Not sure about your accusations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I think the cops planted blood. Still not sure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Not sure about your accusations? What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Not sure about your accusations? 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Still not sure? Of course I'm not sure. I'm not an investigator and I haven't been able to see all of the evidence or be in the courtroom. This is my opinion based on what I know. What the hell is your deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 3, 2023 Have any of you watched Convicting a Murderer yet? There's still so much about this case that hasn't been shown us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Have any of you watched Convicting a Murderer yet? There's still so much about this case that hasn't been shown us. I want to watch it. Is there a way to without subscribing to DW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I want to watch it. Is there a way to without subscribing to DW? You can watch the first episode on YouTube. Just click on my link. That's where I watched it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: You can watch the first episode on YouTube. Just click on my link. That's where I watched it. Pretty sure he was talkin bout all 7 episodes. 10 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I want to watch it. Is there a way to without subscribing to DW? I'm going to check the streams tonight. Will report back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Pretty sure he was talking bout all 7 episodes. I'm going to check the streams tonight. Will report back. I wonder if they will all be put on YouTube eventually. The first episode was well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 4, 2023 With the popularity of these types of documentaries and true crime shows, do you think there might be an increase in murderers/serial killers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: With the popularity of these types of documentaries and true crime shows, do you think there might be an increase in murderers/serial killers? Maybe, but you have to think about how much more difficult it is today to carry out such crimes. Being a serial killer in the 80s or before would have been relatively easy compared to today with DNA and surveillance technology Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, bostonlager said: Maybe, but you have to think about how much more difficult it is today to carry out such crimes. Being a serial killer in the 80s or before would have been relatively easy compared to today with DNA and surveillance technology That's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted October 4, 2023 Railroaded. Innocent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, edjr said: Railroaded. Innocent Wait until you hear more details about it all. I'm not so sure anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted October 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Wait until you hear more details about it all. I'm not so sure anymore. I don't care what he or his family did in their lives prior to this. There are plenty of dirtbag families in America that constantly do dumb sh1t. Doesn't make them murderers. 2 things about this that make me positive he is innocent. 36 million lawsuit and the interrogation of a retarded kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, edjr said: I don't care what he or his family did in their lives prior to this. There are plenty of dirtbag families in America that constantly do dumb sh1t. Doesn't make them murderers. 2 things about this that make me positive he is innocent. 36 million lawsuit and the interrogation of a retarded kid. I know a lot of people mention the lawsuit but do the police actually care? Their insurance is most likely paying it. The whole thing is very weird and it's hard to know for sure what actually happened. It wouldn't surprise me if he did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 4, 2023 I'll have to check out the YouTube series. I hope they put out all of them. 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: With the popularity of these types of documentaries and true crime shows, do you think there might be an increase in murderers/serial killers? No. I don't think it will increase, but I don't think it will stop. Just in my opinion, there are too many advancements in DNA, but also technology in general. Just going to the store or whatever, you are caught on camera like 20 times a day or some weird number like that. Criminals are also dumb, IMO. You leave behind DNA or make stupid decisions when you murder or whatever. Whether it's hair, skin, or just blood evidence that you didn't think you left behind or took with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 5, 2023 I've been listening to more details of the case on YouTube. When you hear all of the stuff that got left out of the original series you start to see that the Avery's are most likely guilty. If some how Steven Avery didn't do it, he should be in jail for molesting underage family members. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 2:25 PM, bostonlager said: I want to watch it. Is there a way to without subscribing to DW? Episodes 1 thru 6 are up on Cinema which has been working well for me. Final episode 7 airs tonight I think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Episodes 1 thru 6 are up on Cinema which has been working well for me. Final episode 7 airs tonight I think. Is that the Cinema Free app you download to a firestick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted October 5, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 4:47 PM, Hawkeye21 said: I think the cops planted blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, edjr said: I'm second guessing that theory now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted October 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, bostonlager said: Is that the Cinema Free app you download to a firestick? Yeah, I thought I heard you say previously that you used it before. I'll send you a PM with the details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Yeah, I thought I heard you say previously that you used it before. I'll send you a PM with the details. THanks, man. I already have that app, just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 5, 2023 Wow I am watching on DW and Steven is a huge piece of shiite. I am on ep 3 and just wow. Manipulative piece of trash. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted October 5, 2023 Cops did some shady stuff but ultimately he did commit the murder. The end. Can we stop chasing this ghost now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Wow I am watching on DW and Steven is a huge piece of shiite. I am on ep 3 and just wow. Manipulative piece of trash. I agree. Thought he was cool when he pitched for the Braves, but I don’t like him now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said: Cops did some shady stuff but ultimately he did commit the murder. The end. Can we stop chasing this ghost now? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 13, 2023 Watching this DW show makes me think that even stuff like Ghost Adventures is fake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted October 13, 2023 I still think Smoltz and Maddux were in on it too. Probably even Glavine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, bostonlager said: I still think Smoltz and Maddux were in on it too. Probably even Glavine. There's no crying in baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 6:03 PM, iam90sbaby said: Cops did some shady stuff nailed it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,856 Posted October 13, 2023 Can’t believe anything, ever. Not unless you’ve seen it first hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,031 Posted October 13, 2023 I am on a reddit/subreddit that talks about it a lot too. And they are even saying this NEW show is still hiding stuff. Too bad that you can't trust anything anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
