SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 Need me to rehash again? How about the fact that it wouldnt be the first time that Nunes was running fiber for Trump. How about the articles by Trumpsnown DOJ about it? How about the fact that he wont share it with the other intel committee...even when requested by republicans? I could go on...but you wont accept facts. Right after this falls apart...going to bet you and your cronies wont admot you were duped...and will move in to the next bogus conspiracy theory. Impossible? No...unlikely that it was actually illegal surveillance on his people? Yeah... Do you entertain that its highly possible any surveillance was both appropriate and legal based on their contacts with foreign enemies? You realize nothing you listed has anything to do with the content of the memo. Just a bunch of idiots bitching and trying to distract. Good news is that within 72 hours we will know the contents of the memo. Either 100 GOP congress persons will have egg on their face (yes, 100 GOP have seen it and most have gone on record that it will be extremely damaging) or the MSM and shitlibs will suffer yet another embarrassing defeat at the hands of Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 You realize nothing you listed has anything to do with the content of the memo. Just a bunch of idiots bitching and trying to distract. Good news is that within 72 hours we will know the contents of the memo. Either 100 GOP congress persons will have egg on their face (yes, 100 GOP have seen it and most have gone on record that it will be extremely damaging) or the MSM and shitlibs will suffer yet another embarrassing defeat at the hands of Trump. It has a lot to do with the credibility of Devin Nunes.Most have gone on record? Not quite as damaging in the way you are leading on actually. Anas again with no KC text or source the memo will come off terribly. And youll slink off for a bit before popping back in with the next bogus theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 So it's already been determined this memo has no validity, by people that have yet to read it. Yeah, that makes sense. And the MSM will do its best to discredit it, no matter what it says. They already are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 Need me to rehash again? How about the fact that it wouldnt be the first time that Nunes was running fiber for Trump. How about the articles by Trumpsnown DOJ about it? How about the fact that he wont share it with the other intel committee...even when requested by republicans? I could go on...but you wont accept facts. Right after this falls apart...going to bet you and your cronies wont admot you were duped...and will move in to the next bogus conspiracy theory. Impossible? No...unlikely that it was actually illegal surveillance on his people? Yeah... Do you entertain that its highly possible any surveillance was both appropriate and legal based on their contacts with foreign enemies? Wading through the gibberish.............. Nunes was investigated and cleared of any wrong doing. The memo was put together by Nunes and Gowdy. The DOJ is still infested with those that care more about preserving their agency's reputation than cleaning it up. The memo doesn't need to be shared until we the American public see it. The claim that the FBI deserves to see what's contained in it is laughable. It's the equivalent of someone firing all their bullets, missing the other person then calling time out. Besides, the contents are merely a compilation of information the DOJ has been required to give the HIC. I'm still waiting on one of the ones still holding onto this farce of a Russian narrative to explain all the firings, demotions, etc for those involved. Several career individuals sacked within the same time frame all just a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 Sundance kills it again https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/imagine-you-are-not-a-politician-yet-you-are-running-for-the-presidency/#more-145138 Imagine You are Not a Politician, Yet You are Running For The Presidency Posted by sundance Imagine that despite your always knowing the DC swamp was deep (dangerous and full of terrors), corrupt, and generally horrible, you decided to do it anyway. You just had to. Imagine you have spent years thinking about it; thinking about every angle within it; thinking and talking to people who know almost everything about it, well, from their perspective anyway; and ultimately you decided to do it. Imagine that even though you knew it was bad, it wasnt until you actually began running that you discovered the depth of the corrupt nature with it. SEE HERE You see things in the campaign you never expected; things no-one ever talked about. One of the most alarming aspects of the *new knowledge* is discovering that the top-tier of the national intelligence apparatus has a political agenda you never thought about before. Imagine yourself, a very successful business person, coming to the realization that the intelligence apparatus could, indeed was, weaponized against you. You fall back on your past experience with hostile organizations as your reference point having to contemplate that parts of the United States Government institutions would likely begin to conspire against you. Imagine yourself having to deal with a weaponized intelligence community. Then, as time progresses, you begin to see those concerns are not imaginings but they actually begin to surface. Re-read this October 2016 speech with new eyes: [] For those who control the levers of power in Washington, and for the global special interests they partner with, our campaign represents an existential threat. [] This is not simply another 4-year election. This is a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not We The People reclaim control over our government. The political establishment that is trying everything to stop us, is the same group responsible for our disastrous trade deals, massive illegal immigration, and economic and foreign policies that have bled this country dry. The political establishment has brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs, as they flee to Mexico, China and other countries throughout the world. Our just-announced jobs numbers are anemic, and our gross domestic product, or GDP, is barely above one percent. Workers in the United States, were making less than they were almost 20 years ago and yet they are working harder. Its a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth, and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. [] This is a struggle for the survival of our nation. This election will determine whether we are a free nation, or whether we have only the illusion of Democracy but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system. This is not just conspiracy but reality, and you and I know it. [] They control the Department of Justice, and they even clandestinely meet with the Attorney General of the United States in the back of her airplane, while on the runway for 39 minutes to most likely discuss her reappointment in a Clinton Administration just prior to the Attorney General making a decision over whether or not to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Likewise, they have corrupted the Director of the FBI to the point at which stories are already saying the great men and women who work for the FBI are embarrassed and ashamed to what hes done to one of our great institutions. Hillary Clinton is guilty of all of the things that Director Comey stated at his press conference and Congressional hearings, and far more and yet he let her off the hook, while others lives are being destroyed for far less. This is a conspiracy against you, the American people. (link) Knowing what you know now, those words from October 13th, 2016, rally in West Palm Beach Florida most certainly hold a different resonance today, no? Who can anyone turn to when the very institutions created to preserve liberty are intentionally utilized to eliminate the most basic of liberties: the right to choose our own government. Imagine you are a candidate for the office of the presidency and you realize your political campaign is a very real existential threat to the system. As you begin to accept this reality you have to think entirely different now. These people are political enemies. As troubling as it is to accept, you have to face the reality of a weaponized intelligence community aligned against you; and a professional political class who will deny it exists. The system, including the media, are now in synergy to eliminate the threat you represent. Imagine, as time goes on, you realize this weaponized system is not going to go away. You begin to think about how to work around it, from your only reference points in dealing with hostile institutions. Approaches you know from business experience, become references. Thankfully, you have a man, an intelligence officer, General Mike Flynn, who can rightly explain the capability of the intelligence apparatus. Yet even he cannot adequately describe how it is weaponized. Imagine yourself having to deal with this issue. You are running for the Presidency, yet you have to accept a complete and incomprehensible inability to trust the U.S. intelligence community. You realize that, absent of your ability to coax individuals to change behavior inside the organization, it may be entirely necessary to build a parallel system that you can trust. The nomination was tough, but you won. It is within the general election when you really discover the scale of political alignment referenced as the Deep Administrative State. Somehow, through grit, work and a relentless effort your campaign overcomes many obstacles and a key part of the electorate are sharp enough to understand the bigger issues. You win the election. But as people celebrate around you, you know this is not the summit. When dawn breaks, November 9th, 2016, everyone will begin to see what you already know; the summit is still a long way off. Those adverse interests are not going to accept the disruption. Well, not willingly anyway. As everyone else cheers, maybe you dont quite enjoy the same victory because you sense what is to come Then, at a critical juncture, a key player within the established system, who is not OK with whats going on, comes to you and confirms your worst suspicions. SEE HERE The apparatus of the IC is weaponized against you; and its worse than you thought. However, despite the sheer scale of the opposition, and the people aligned against you, you have won the election and thankfully that same key internal *whistle-blower* has a plan. He too has been thinking. Imagine the broad outline of a parallel intelligence system. A system that might only be temporary in nature, but feasibly could be trusted. A system that might overcome the challenge inherent from the domestic enemies embedded inside the current one. While a politically weaponized intelligence apparatus is targeting/watching you perhaps your parallel system might just be able to watch the watchers. If you can imagine such a system, youll note the needs: established infrastructure close to completion, or at least in a solid phase of current utility. A safe system, a reasonable distance away from the threat; held and operated by people who have, or would have, a self-interest -a motive- to help you. Also a human intelligence network, contacts with people -who know people- and must also have ability to operate the parallel system. Normal allies, at least the historic perspective of allies as known to us outside the system, could not be used. The Five Eyes intelligence allies would be useless, because the embedded IC opposition would quickly discover the networking. They are, after all, an international intelligence community; and share a generally common ideology. No, you would need a new system. Something outside current systems, yet mirroring the technological capability. And all of this must take place in such a fashion as no-one would ever suspect it taking place. Yet, you dont want to hide it, because thats ultimately the easiest way for the adverse IC enemy to discover it. Thats what youd need. Now, consider: I know, its a mind-blowing exercise to fathom. but why not? As we consider this, basic frames of reference are questioned. Do your own work, your own analysis, apply your own reasoned logic. You, we, all of us, have all just recently began to understand the scale of the corruption within the U.S. intelligence apparatus, specifically the DOJ and FBI. What if we had known it back in November of 2016? How would we understand all of the intelligence events from November 2016 though today if we knew the scale of the Justice Department weaponization, back then. We have the benefit of hindsight to overlay against current events. Do not trust me, nor expect me to convince you. Something about this has just struck me as deliberate for over eight months for multiple reasons. So use your own knowledge, and put down an actual or mental timeline back to January 20th, 2017 (Inauguration day), and look/think carefully about what transpired. Who visited where, when, and how. Look at who visits the White House, early on in the administration. Think about what you know of those visits and your reference points. Many citations will follow: Look at what actions were taken, in the specific area, to secure any adverse entity away from discovering the intent of a possible parallel construct. SEE HERE Saudi Arabia Arrests 11 Princes, including Alwaleed. Look at times and dates when specific people travel to the same specific area: Understand that a parallel system means creating new alliances. Any entity aligned with the current adversary, or former administration, cannot be trusted. SEE HERE Qatar, financial epicenter of the Muslim Brotherhood, ally with the Obama administration, no longer considered a geopolitical ally; and completely isolated amid the Gulf States. Then we have Canada, Australia and New Zealand, normally friendly allies, being exceptionally combative to an incoming administration SEE HERE and adding to the mix, the United Kingdom being more of an ideological adversary than geopolitical ally SEE HERE oh, theres that Five Eyes reference again. When you begin to question prior assumptions, some overseas visits by administration officials, emissaries or unofficial officials, take on new meaning. Visits seemed random. But maybe not SEE HERE Jared Kushner making unannounced visits to Saudi Arabia. With a new nexus established, things continue for a long time; a very long while. All the while Deep-State Black Hats have absolutely no idea they are being watched. Perhaps seemingly random or innocuous events take on a different dimension. SEE HERE Vice-President Mike Pence Travels to Egypt, Jordan and Israel. Without context, things just dont make sense. The media are perplexed SEE HERE Headline: Mike Pence visit to region serves no purpose, ie. it doesnt make sense. However, with context, things, the timing of things, not only begins to make sense, but changes the entire landscape of what was previously thought. SEE HERE House Speaker Paul Ryan, and Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes travel to Saudi Arabia. Thats Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes innocuously in the background. While everyone was recently waiting on the memo. And waiting on the #ReleaseTheMemo The history of interactions begins to shape a new understanding: Maybe, just maybe, the Intelligence Orb that everyone enjoyed was real. Only real in a way it just wasnt thought of before: Then again, what if the Orb, the new Saudi counter-extremism intelligence hub, is not technically *theirs* after all What if that Saudi Intelligence Orb (hub) is actually ours, or at least, maybe, we are leasing and equipping it for use for a while While our White Hat team (CIA-Pompeo, NSA-Rogers) modified the intel-hubs operational use, to monitor and catch the Black Hat team. Although this is simply just a citation of various events, with a rather different take on what they might possibly mean, it could, possibly, change the entire dynamic of what has been happening. Did you think two years ago that FBI officials would actually be spying on political opposition? Did you fathom a year ago that the FBI, actual agents inside the FBI, might have been intentionally conspiring to help Hillary Clinton escape legal jeopardy? Did you know the FBI were withholding evidence, lying to courts, using burner phones to communicate; hiring contract agents and giving them access to NSA and FBI counterintelligence databases to conduct domestic political spying operations? Could you fathom the U.S. Department of Justice and FBI purchasing opposition research from Hillary Clinton, pitching it to FISA Courts as evidence; and working with their allies in the media by leaking information to place intentionally false material within their stories? Were you previously ever able to imagine people within the Justice Department making demands of congressional oversight to see evidence of their own corruption in advance of accountability? and the media making out congress as the bad-guy in that dynamic? No? Dont feel bad. Me neither. I mean, seriously? So my entire set of reasonable assumptions is considerably different now and I dont dismiss possibilities that actually have a basis-in-fact that might explain what has taken place as the other side of the intelligence apparatus fights back against this jaw-dropping intelligence corruption 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 McCabe stepped down today. Nothing to see here, move along, all a distraction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 It has a lot to do with the credibility of Devin Nunes. Most have gone on record? Not quite as damaging in the way you are leading on actually. Anas again with no KC text or source the memo will come off terribly. And youll slink off for a bit before popping back in with the next bogus theory. Got your talking points on McCabe being removed? Tick tock traitors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 FBI Director reads the memo yesterday, MCCabe steps down today. Or is told to step down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 Sundance kills it again https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/29/imagine-you-are-not-a-politician-yet-you-are-running-for-the-presidency/#more-145138 Read that earlier this morning. Great take on it. So the DOJ/FBI blinked first on #releasethememo and sh!tcanned McCabe. Will it take out Rosenstein too who reauthorized the FISA warrants (extended them)? The games afoot and pieces being removed from the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 And so it begins..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 One other point about the memo. So Schiff says Nunes/Gowdy are cherry picking points to create a narrative......so he acknowledges they're facts and not made up. Then there should be no argument releasing facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 FBI Director reads the memo yesterday, MCCabe steps down today. Or is told to step down.Im sure there is a logical explanation. Saints will be by any minute with it. His sources just havent made it up yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 Im sure there is a logical explanation. Saints will be by any minute with it. His sources just havent made it up yet. FBI rep ruined. For who? Hillary? Obama? Two people who could care less about a cop or anyone in Law Enforcement. Stooges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 CNN reporting McCabe was removed. As of Friday he wasn't planning on "retiring" today. This is big. Wray sees the memo, within 24 hours McCabe is removed. Steve Brusk @stevebruskCNN From our Justice team One source said FBI Deputy Director McCabe's departure was not in the plans as of Friday. The source said McCabe was told this morning to step down. A second source described McCabe’s departure as being “removed”. https://twitter.com/stevebruskCNN/status/958039390139375616 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 He was retiring in March. Two months big woop, his daughter probably needed a babysitter so he had no choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 So McCabe is now the firebreak for the FBI and DOJ. That's where they want the damage to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 Where's Dhonuff? Get called into a meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 Its a shame what Obama and Comey have done to what should be a proud organization. Hopefully they hang. To think, it was all for that rotten kunt Hillary. Shame 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 Got your talking points on McCabe being removed? Tick tock traitors. Seems like its you who need the talking points again.Better run over to Fox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 Its a shame what Obama and Comey have done to what should be a proud organization. Hopefully they hang. To think, it was all for that rotten kunt Hillary. Shame It was to maintain staus quo i.e. keep up and cover up their criminal acts. Maybe Hillary was right; they'll all hang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/958001004997378048?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/958001004997378048?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother Oh jeez. Grasping at straws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/tedlieu/status/958063395265241089?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Eother Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 Ted Liu. Lol. What, Maxine Watters wasn't available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 29, 2018 Slo Nutt fails to realize them Dems aren't saying the memo contains falsehoods. So the information is true but it paints a dire picture of what's occurred. If the intel is true that there was a conspiracy to use FISA against U.S. citizens then leak that info it IS a dire situation. Spying and violating someone's rights don't have to be taken in the right context. And don't forget the unparalled unmasking then Obama relaxing who could access that information so it could be leaked. So much more to it and a huge purge with criminal investigations need to follow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,996 Posted January 29, 2018 The FISA memo is bad. Lucky for us dumb deplorables we have the liberal elite to think for us an old tell us what it means. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 The lefties seem to think that Nunes just created the memo out of thin air. The memo is based on documents and testimony being reviewed by OIG and congressional committees, who are all investigating the crimes committed by the Obama DOJ/FBI. It doesn't get any more "factual" than that. Shocking that Sho links a twitter account of a former colleague of Strzok and McCabe to "debunk" the memo. At least he hasn't given up yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 http://i.imgur.com/AJoIeZ8.gif 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted January 29, 2018 Oh jeez. Grasping at straws. It's all he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 The lefties seem to think that Nunes just created the memo out of thin air. The memo is based on documents and testimony being reviewed by OIG and congressional committees, who are all investigating the crimes committed by the Obama DOJ/FBI. It doesn't get any more "factual" than that. Shocking that Sho links a twitter account of a former colleague of Strzok and McCabe to "debunk" the memo. At least he hasn't given up yet. Based in the OIG? Link?And no...its based on his committee...he was at one point refusing to share it with the Senate intel committee (not sure of that has changed) He made up his modnoght run to the White House and shown he will run interference for the whole house before. Ive linked to many sources that have spoken about the memo. You just dont accept anything they write because it doesnt look good for your weak ass narrative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340 Posted January 29, 2018 The lefties seem to think that Nunes just created the memo out of thin air. The memo is based on documents and testimony being reviewed by OIG and congressional committees, who are all investigating the crimes committed by the Obama DOJ/FBI. It doesn't get any more "factual" than that. Shocking that Sho links a twitter account of a former colleague of Strzok and McCabe to "debunk" the memo. At least he hasn't given up yet. If the memo contained a reference to RUSSIAN GOLDEN SHOWERS! he would believe it in a heartbeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 Well, it is being released. The reaction from the left and MSM tells us all we need to know. People are going to prison. Schiff looked like a broken man trying to spin the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 29, 2018 I thought schill was gonna cry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 29, 2018 Hannity is going to be must see tv tonight. https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9k2EVlrD9g7ekgg/giphy.gif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 29, 2018 I thought schill was gonna cry. So funny. That's what passes for a leader these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 29, 2018 Hannity is going to be must see tv tonight. https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9k2EVlrD9g7ekgg/giphy.gif You whine about talking points and the left...yet hype Hannity?Thats all anyone needs to know about you. Im betting this doesnt end the way you want it to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 30, 2018 Hannity is going to be must see tv tonight. https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9k2EVlrD9g7ekgg/giphy.gif I'm a Tucker man myself. That should be good. Gonna check out MSNBC tonight too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 30, 2018 You whine about talking points and the left...yet hype Hannity? Thats all anyone needs to know about you. Im betting this doesnt end the way you want it to. what are your news sources by the way ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 30, 2018 Votes to release their own memo...votes against the democrat response. You all are supporting partisan crooks hell bent on pushing Trump above the law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 30, 2018 what are your news sources by the way ?If Im to use an app...the BBC usually. WSJ often. See headlines from a variety of sources in twitter (NBC and ABCNews)Certainly not jokes like Gateway Pundit or Conservative Treehouse or State TV...sorry, FoxNews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites