The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 1.01 Sho Nuff - Smells Like Teen Spirit Nirvana1.02 Herbivore - Alive Pearl Jam1.03 5-Points - Geek Stink Breath Green Day1.04 TEK - Under The Bridge Red Hot Chili Peppers1.05 Zero T. - One U21.06 HT - Friends In Low Places Garth Brooks ----------1.07 Fandandy - Interstate Love Song Stone Temple Pilots1.08 Volty - Thunderstruck AC️DC 1.09 Shotsup - Jeremy Pearl Jam1.10 Mobb Deep - Losing My Religion REM 1.11 RHR - November Rain Guns 'N' Roses 1.12 nzoner - Shine Collective Soul----------1.13 TBBOM - Hallelujah Jeff Buckley 1.14 Bandrus - Sabotage Beastie Boys 1.15 Daino - Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang Snoop + Dre 1.16 jerryskids - Enter Sandman Metallica 1.17 Vuduchile - Man In The Box Alice In Chains 1.18 SUXBNME - Estranged Guns 'N' Roses=============2.01 SUXBNME - Evenflow Pearl Jam2.02 Vuduchile - Hard to Handle Black Crows2.03 jerryskids - Gangsta's Paradise Coolio2.04 Daino - I Will Always Love You Whitney Houston2.05 Bandrus - Enjoy the Silence Depeche Mode2.06 TBBOM - Bittersweet Symphony The Verve----------2.07 nzoner - Blue On Black Kenny Wayne Shepherd2.08 RHR - Hurt Nine Inch Nails2.09 Mobb Deep - Creep Radiohead2.10 Shotsup - Walking In Memphis Marc Cohn 2.11 Volty - Blaze Of Glory Jon Bon Jovi2.12 Fandandy - Come As You Are Nirvana-----------2.13 HT - Jump Around House of Pain2.14 ZeroT - Don't Speak No Doubt2.15 TEK - Black Or White Michael Jackson2.16 5-Points - Tears In Heaven Eric Clapton2.17 Herbivore - Been Caught Stealing Jane's Addiction 2.18 Sho Nuff - Everlong Foo Fighters=============3.01 Sho Nuff - Poison Bell Biv Devoe 3.02 Herbivore - What I Got Sublime3.03 5-Points - Time Bomb Rancid3.04 TEK - You Oughta Know Alanis Morissette3.05 Zero T. - Song 2 Blur3.06 HT - Smooth Santana + Rob Thomas----------3.07 Fandandy - Closer Nine Inch Nails3.08 Volty - You Could Be Mine Guns 'N' Roses3.09 Shotsup - No Rain Blind Mellon 3.10 Mobb Deep - Loser Beck3.11 RHR - Bullet With Butterfly Wings Smashing Pumpkins3.12 nzoner - Fly Away Lenny Kravitz----------3.13 TBBOM - Island In The Sun Weezer3.14 Bandrus - Live Forever Oasis3.15 Daino - Black Hole Sun Soundgarden 3.16 jerryskids - Forty Six & 2 Tool 3.17 Vuduchile - Cowboy Kid Rock3.18 SUXBNME - U Can't Touch This MC Hammer=============4.01 SUXBNME - Far Behind Candlebox4.02 Vuduchile - Lightning Crashes Live4.03 jerryskids - Let Her Cry Hootie and the Blowfish4.04 Daino - Killing Me Softly The Fugees4.05 Bandrus - Be Quiet And Drive (Far Away) Deftones4.06 TBBOM - Lovefool The Cardigans----------4.07 nzoner - Muscle Museum Muse4.08 RHR - Bro Hymn Pennywise4.09 Mobb Deep - Killing In The Name Rage Against the Machine4.10 Shotsup - Ænima Tool4.11 Volty - Silent Lucidity Queensrÿche4.12 Fandandy - Ants Marching Dave Matthews Band-----------4.13 HT - The Impression That I Get Mighty Mighty Bosstones4.14 ZeroT - Comedown Bush4.15 TEK - Santeria Sublime4.16 5-Points - Humpty Dance Digital Underground4.17 Herbivore - The Beautiful People Marilyn Manson4.18 Sho Nuff - Would Alice in Chains=============5.01 Sho Nuff - Hunger Strike Temple of the Dog5.02 Herbivore - River of Deceit Mad Season5.03 5-Points - Money In The Ghetto Too Short5.04 TEK - What It's Like Everlast5.05 Zero T. - Mary Jane's Last Dance Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers5.06 HT - Dont Look Back In Anger Oasis----------5.07 Fandandy - Bulls On Parade Rage Against The Machine5.08 Volty - The Unforgiven Metallica5.09 Shotsup - Mudshovel Staind5.10 Mobb Deep - Zombie Cranberries5.11 RHR - Self Esteem Offspring5.12 nzoner - Casual Affair Tonic----------5.13 TBBOM - Crash Into Me Dave Matthews band5.14 Bandrus - Cemetery Gates Pantera5.15 Daino - California Love Tupac + Dre5.16 jerryskids - I Would Do Anything For Love Meatloaf 5.17 Vuduchile - Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O'Connor 5.18 SUXBNME - Poundcake Van Halen============= 6.01 SUXBNME - Say Hello 2 Heaven Temple of the Dog 6.02 Vuduchile - Kiss From A Rose Seal6.03 jerryskids - Learn To Fly Foo Fighters6.04 Daino - 3 AM Matchbox 206.05 Bandrus - Return Of The Mack Mark Morrison6.06 TBBOM - Gin And Juice Snoop Dog (feat. Dat Nigga Daz)----------6.07 nzoner - Keep Talking Pink Floyd6.08 RHR - Whats My Age Again Blink 1826.09 Mobb Deep - Jerry Was A Race Car Driver Primus6.10 Shotsup - Tomorrow Silverchair6.11 Volty - Winds of Change Scorpions6.12 Fandandy - Pillar of Davidson Live-----------6.13 HT - Cannonball The Breeders6.14 ZeroT - Freedom! '90 George Michael 6.15 TEK - Waterfalls TLC 6.16 5-Points - Santa Monica Everclear 6.17 Herbivore - Fade Into You Mazzy Star6.18 Sho Nuff - One Angry Dwarf, 200 Solemn Faces Ben Folds Five=============7.01 Sho Nuff - Yellow Ledbetter Pearl Jam 7.02 Herbivore - Range Life Pavement7.03 5-Points - Moon Baby Godsmack7.04 TEK - Closing Time Semisonic7.05 Zero T. - One Headlight Wallflowers 7.06 HT - How Do Ya Like Me Now Toby Keith----------7.07 Fandandy - One Week Barenaked Ladies7.08 Volty - Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap) Joan Jett7.09 Shotsup - Breaking The Girl Red Hot Chili Peppers 7.10 Mobb Deep - She Don't Use Jelly Flaming Lips7.11 RHR - What's Up 4 Non Blonds7.12 nzoner - White Lines Duran Duran----------7.13 TBBOM - Run Collective Soul7.14 Bandrus - Are U The 1 I've Been Waiting For Nick Cave 7.15 Daino - Baby One More Time Brittney Spears 7.16 jerryskids - Good Riddance Green Day7.17 Vuduchile - Hole Hearted Extreme 7.18 SUXBNME - Baby Got Back Sir Mix A Lot ============= 8.01 SUXBNME - Every Thing About You Ugly Kid Joe 8.02 Vuduchile - Brain Stew Green Day 8.03 jerryskids - Hey Jealousy Gin Blossoms 8.04 Daino - Nothing Else Matters Metallica 8.05 Bandrus - Sluttering (May 4) Jawbreaker 8.06 TBBOM - Friday I'm In Love The Cure ----------8.07 nzoner - Mindfields The Prodigy 8.08 RHR - Runaway Train Soul Asylum 8.09 Mobb Deep - Holy Wars (The Punishment Due) Megadeth 8.10 Shotsup - Mr. Jones Counting Crows8.11 Volty - Candle In The Wind 1997 Elton John8.12 Fandandy - Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) C+C Music Factory -----------8.13 HT - Ball And Chain Social Distortion 8.14 ZeroT - Vogue Madonna 8.15 TEK - Semi-Charmed Life Third Eye Blind 8.16 5-Points - Albatross Corrosion of Conformity 8.17 Herbivore - Kicked It In The Sun Built to Spill 8.18 Sho Nuff - Snail Smashing Pumpkins =============9.01 Sho Nuff - Round Here Counting Crows 9.02 Herbivore - Sugar System of a Down 9.03 5-Points - Barroom Hero Dropkick Murphys 9.04 TEK - My Heart Will Go On Celine Dion 9.05 Zero T. - In The Meantime Spacehog 9.06 HT - I Touch Myself Divinyls ----------9.07 Fandandy - Stay (I Miss You) Lisa Loeb9.08 Volty - Remedy Black Crowes 9.09 Shotsup - The World I Know Collective Soul 9.10 Mobb Deep - Midlife Crisis Faith No More 9.11 RHR - My Name Is Eminem 9.12 nzoner - I'm The Only One Melissa Etheridge ---------- 9.13 TBBOM - Better Man Pearl Jam9.14 Bandrus - Fazer Quicksand 9.15 Daino - Buddy Holly Weezer 9.16 jerryskids - Inside Out Eve 6 9.17 Vuduchile - Wicked Game Chris Issak 9.18 SUXBNME - A Small Victory Faith No More =============10.01 SUXBNME - Hangar 18 Megadeth 10.02 Vuduchile - Carnival Natalie Merchant and Jen Turner 10.03 jerryskids - Hook Blues Traveler 10.04 Daino - (Everything I Do) I Do It For You Bryan Adams 10.05 Bandrus - Speedway Morrissey 10.06 TBBOM - 1979 Smashing Pumpkins ----------- 10.07 nzoner - Woke up This Morning Alabama 3 10.08 RHR - Teen Angst Cracker 10.09 Mobb Deep - Dirty Boots Sonic Youth 10.10 Shotsup - I'll Be There For You The Rembrandts 10.11 Volty - Something To Believe In Poison10.12 Fandandy - I Can't Make You Love Me Bonnie Raitt -----------10.13 HT - Money Talks AC️DC 10.14 ZeroT - Cumbersome Seven Mary Three 10.15 TEK - Possum Kingdom The Toadies 10.16 5-Points - Rusty Cage Johnny Cash 10.17 Herbivore - Debonair The Afghan Whigs 10.18 Sho Nuff - Babylon David Gray =============11.01 Sho Nuff - It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday Boyz II Men 11.02 Herbivore - I Feel the Pain Dinosaur Jr. 11.03 5-Points - I Ain't No Nice Guy Motörhead 11.04 TEK - Say It Ain't So Wheezer 11.05 Zero T. - Jamiroquai Virtual Insanity 11.06 HT - Spiderwebs No Doubt ----------11.07 Fandandy - Hang Matchbox 20 11.08 Volty - Sometimes She Cries Warrant 11.09 Shotsup - Down 311 11.10 Mobb Deep - Repeater Fugazi 11.11 RHR - She Talks to Angels The Black Crowes 11.12 nzoner - Saint Of Me The Rolling Stones ----------11.13 TBBOM - Fake Plastic Trees Radiohead 11.14 Bandrus - Catch the breeze Slowdive 11.15 Daino - Ill Be Missing You Puff Daddy 11.16 jerryskids -Black Pearl Jam 11.17 Vuduchile - Rooster Alice In Chains. 11.18 SUXBNME - Unbelievable EMF ============= 12.01 SUXBNME - Right Here Right Now Jesus Jones 12.02 Vuduchile - After Dark Tito and Tarantula 12.03 jerryskids - Foolish Games Jewel 12.04 Daino -12.05 Bandrus -12.06 TBBOM - ---------- 12.07 nzoner -12.08 RHR -12.09 Mobb Deep -12.10 Shotsup -12.11 Volty -12.12 Fandandy ------------12.13 HT -12.14 ZeroT -12.15 TEK -12.16 5-Points -12.17 Herbivore - 12.18 Sho Nuff - 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah...Im fine with TEK having picks but two teams so his girl can have one...take it to the curly board. Im fine with teks Girl having a team, but she should register her own account and take the ritual hazing. I mean, shes been picking for rounds now and I still dont know can size. This is against all tradition and couth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 Im fine with teks Girl having a team, but she should register her own account and take the ritual hazing. I mean, shes been picking for rounds now and I still dont know can size. This is against all tradition and couth. 36 DD. I am a blessed man in so many ways. I can give her one of my alias it that works. I'm not too keen on exposing her to the board. First rule, don't click on anything Joneo posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 965 Posted February 11, 2018 12.04 The Way - Fastball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 36 DD. I am a blessed man in so many ways Bullsh!t Pics or stfu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 Just saw Kim Jong posted the updated list. I'll delete mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 11, 2018 A phenomenal artist who needs to be in this draft. I was between this and a few songs from a band already represented, I figured I'd add somebody new. As in the past she maybe has a more popular song, but this is my favorite song of hers. Lots of artists write songs about breakups; these lyrics are amazing. 12.03 Foolish Games - Jewel Live version: and she is still very easy on the eyes to this day: http://celebmafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jewel-kilcher-out-in-manhattan-with-charlie-whitehurst-3-29-2017-5.jpg How the fock did I forget her. Gorgeous woman and video ice (fix those teef though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 Im about to get on the boat, so Im gonna post my pick. If the person Im skipping wants it, he can have it. Unlikely though. 12.06 - All I Want - Toad The Wet Sprocket In the 90s I had four favorite bands. This one, and the three to come. This band has two semi hits, and this was one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 Just saw Kim Jong posted the updated list. I'll delete mine. No, don't I can put the song lists there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 Bullsh!t Pics or stfu. I wouldn't lie about such a sacred thing. Pics. Yeah. That's not going to happen with with this wack a mole board. I told her you are ok with her drafting now that you know her breast size. She laughed and said thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 Bullsh!t Pics or stfu. pretty sure that's my sister's size. Naturally.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 No, don't I can put the song lists there. Aye Aye Capt. Is this bandrus or Volti? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 pretty sure that's my sister's size. Naturally.. Uh oh. Are your initials BA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 Aye Aye Capt. Is this bandrus or Volti? it should say my user name there in the post you quoted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 Uh oh. Are your initials BA? I pity da fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 I wouldn't lie about such a sacred thing. Pics. Yeah. That's not going to happen with with this wack a mole board. I told her you are ok with her drafting now that you know her breast size. She laughed and said thank you. Yeah, I figured pics were unlikely, but we have to try. Nobody has sent us boobie pics since addict back in the day. Now she needs to call suxs Faxline for the phone interview. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 I pity da fool. I thought it was Band. OK. Yeah her brother is in south florida. What is your view on she and I having seperate teams for the 60s draft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah, I figured pics were unlikely, but we have to try. Nobody has sent us boobie pics since addict back in the day. Now she needs to call suxs Faxline for the phone interview. I would have made the same request. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,596 Posted February 11, 2018 Im about to get on the boat, so Im gonna post my pick. If the person Im skipping wants it, he can have it. Unlikely though. 12.06 - All I Want - Toad The Wet Sprocket In the 90s I had four favorite bands. This one, and the three to come. This band has two semi hits, and this was one of them. Great pick, Toad definitely needs to be represented and that is their top song IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 it should say my user name there in the post you quoted. About 11 hours of ubering and I'm a little spent. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 I thought it was Band. OK. Yeah her brother is in south florida. What is your view on she and I having seperate teams for the 60s draft? I agree with TBBOM. Have her sign up so we can turn her into a warped human being. But shotsup controls the keys on who's in and out. I think I won't be running that one or helping out as after three drafts of this, I'm about burning myself out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 I agree with TBBOM. Have her sign up so we can turn her into a warped human being. But shotsup controls the keys on who's in and out. I think I won't be running that one or helping out as after three drafts of this, I'm about burning myself out. I can only imagine. Thank you for everything you have done and for your vote of support, I'll continue to help as I can with this and the 60s draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247 Posted February 11, 2018 man there are so many bands I want to represent but there isnt enough time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 584 Posted February 11, 2018 man there are so many bands I want to represent but there isnt enough time Even skipping almost all of my favorite bands of the decade, I still have about 35 unrepresented and four picks to work with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 man there are so many bands I want to represent but there isnt enough time Too many songs and not enough picks to get them all. This when the hard choices start to be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247 Posted February 11, 2018 Even skipping almost all of my favorite bands of the decade, I still have about 35 unrepresented and four picks to work with. yep thats how I am sitting of course a lot of my bands probably wouldn't get drafted in 100 rounds, there are some pretty big rock bands still out there I have 2 in mind this round and can't decide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 584 Posted February 11, 2018 yep thats how I am sitting of course a lot of my bands probably wouldn't get drafted in 100 rounds, there are some pretty big rock bands still out there I'm planning on making a few post-draft rosters: best undrafted, best of unrepresented artists, and best album cuts (non-singles). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 man there are so many bands I want to represent but there isnt enough time With my 11th rounder, I've drafted all that songs I really wanted to plus my deep sleeper 16th rounder. I've got a great country song coming in twelve that I really like this time but for the 13-15th rounders my cupboards are pretty much bare unless I double up on artists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247 Posted February 11, 2018 I will give you this pick for your 13-15 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 So as Im sure is no surprise, the boat through Laos is a sh!t show. Overcrowded. Focking chickens on board. These two days are gonna suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 I appreciate what youve brought to the drafts and the work you and all the other geeks have put into running them. But, I do think these drafts are best kept to regular posters. I believe shotsup set that ground rule up front in the 80s draft. Were all pretty much strangers anyway, but we have zero point of reference for your gf, and I suspect we wouldnt see her again after the draft. No skin off my sack either way. Yeah...Im fine with TEK having picks but two teams so his girl can have one...take it to the curly board. I didn't mean to ignore your posts. I was updating the song list when you made them. I appreciate both your input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted February 11, 2018 Im about to get on the boat, so Im gonna post my pick. If the person Im skipping wants it, he can have it. Unlikely though. 12.06 - All I Want - Toad The Wet Sprocket In the 90s I had four favorite bands. This one, and the three to come. This band has two semi hits, and this was one of them. I used to love me some Toad too. I wore the Fear CD out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 I used to love me some Toad too. I wore the Fear CD out. Dulcinea is my favorite album of theirs, with fear second. You know the lead singer came out with a new project a few years ago? PWA I think is the name. Public work administration. I listened to it and didnt think much of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted February 11, 2018 I will give you this pick for your 13-15 lol 12 is a really excellent country song I like a lot. I tipped off the artist earlier. 13 will be a black artist. I haven't taken a black artist through three drafts because they don't make songs in the genre I like but this song I have in store is really good. No doubt people will like it better than most of the rest of the stuff I drafted. 14/15 I may double up on Queensryche or maybe not. I have a couple of ideas. 16 is a song by an artist from a band I like that had put out a solo album. I didn't even know the album existed. I'd never before or after heard it on played the radio. It was poorly promoted. What happened was that I was going through the discount music bin and I found something that piqued my interest and I said "Hey, isn't this that guy from blahblahblah?" I dunno. Maybe. I didn't recognize any of the songs listed either. Is it really him? Ah, what the hell? I figured if it's the guy I think it is, it was worth the buck or two they were asking to give it a listen. Well, it was that guy. And wouldn't you know, he'd put out what I thought was a kickass album even though it flopped commercially and had no video support. My favorite song only got as high as 84 on the British charts, and didn't chart at all in the US. No matter. I wore the cassette out. It's here in China with me. I think the song's got a powerful message that's resonates even more pertinent in 2018 than when it was released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 Wait, 16? I thought this was 15 rounds? I would love one more pick. I have one favorite band not represented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah, 16. How is your trip going? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 Sorry you think I'm a d1ck, I think I made my point in my previous post which you completely ignored. If you'd like me to clarify something let me know. Or perhaps I'll have my wife, two daughters, and son get a team in the 60s draft, because I'm confident you care about their taste in music. Reading back on this you are correct. I didn't address this. Bunny was sitting next to me at home as I prepared my list for both drafts. She followed them both and commented on the picks. She assisted me in preparing for the 90s and was very into it, so I decided to let her make the picks instead of me. That was she could have the joy that I got from the 70s draft and you guys would have someone that grew up with that music instead of another old fart that hasn't known half of the songs picked. From the comments that have been made, she hasn't done too badly. How involved was your wife and daughters in the last 2 drafts? I'm a dooshe, but I try to put some humor in it. You are just a dooshe. I hope that clarifies things for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 11, 2018 Yeah, 16. How is your trip going? We were supposed to be picked up at 5:30 am to go to the boat down the river. Night before, I copied a bunch of sh!t to my laptop to watch. Only to discover that I have apparently left my laptop charger somewhere along the way. So there goes that idea. Guy ends up being an hour late. Border shakedown ($40 US for a visa on arrival to this hole) took a couple hours. We ended up leaving shore at 11:30. Boat is 2/3 tourists, 1/3 local monkey people barbarians. Guess who my neighbors are? One lady is about to go swimming if she shoves me one more fotcking time. So 7 hour cruise today. We stay tonight in some bumfock village whose only purpose is to serve as a stop for the boats. So the accommodation vendors know they have you by the shorthairs, and charge accordingly. So far, not digging Laos. The scenery along the river is gorgeous. Other than that, we will see when I get where were going. Thankfully my SIM card I bought in Bangkok is still working. Im sure it will die any time though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 521 Posted February 11, 2018 I have Bandrus and Nzoners picks. I need to work tomorrow and need to go to bed. Volti do you want me to send them to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites