The PosterFormerlyKnownAs 61 Posted October 3, 2018 Chris Davis all time worst batting performance coupled with his enourmous Future contract (see https://www.google.com/amp/s/baltimore.cbslocal.com/2018/10/03/baltimore-orioles-chris-davis-worst-hitting-season-ever/amp/) has me thinking we need reforms of professional sport contracts. Sure, the owners screw over the players in many ways, but if players wont show up to play (Bell?) or play at a minimally acceptable level (Davis?) it shouldnt hamstring a franchise with a grotesque impact on salary cap etc. One solution might be to say that barring injury or benching by coaches (eg, lack of opportunity to perform) a top 25% player that performs at bottom 25% level can be waived without salary cap implications, with contract auto voided. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted October 3, 2018 The MLBPA is one of the best there is............good luck getting that thru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The PosterFormerlyKnownAs 61 Posted October 3, 2018 The MLBPA is one of the best there is............good luck getting that thru. True. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted October 3, 2018 nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 3, 2018 The players are litteraly everything.. owners make too much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted October 3, 2018 The players are litteraly everything.. owners make too much nope socialist jackass 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted October 3, 2018 The MLBPA is one of the best there is............good luck getting that thru. The union would love this rule. Read it again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 519 Posted October 3, 2018 nope socialist jackass Damn... we're just skipping right to politics and name calling. Not even going to pretend to discuss the topic at hand. That was quick, even for this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted October 3, 2018 Damn... we're just skipping right to politics and name calling. Not even going to pretend to discuss the topic at hand. That was quick, even for this board. same principal so yah, people think the employees deserve more than the owners, yes the owners make a lot, avg MLB team profits 30 mil a year, considering costs, and how much it costs to buy a team, 30 mil a year on a 2 billion investement quite frankly is nothing, and there are people who think the players should even get more than that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 3, 2018 if you are such a free market guy why dont ya stay outta it and let the owners pay what they want to... also ditch revenue sharing and salary caps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted October 3, 2018 if you are such a free market guy why dont ya stay outta it and let the owners pay what they want to... also ditch revenue sharing and salary caps I have no problems with negotiating and collective bargaining also a salary cap is not about salaries but a perceived competitive balance as sports is viewed primarily as entertainment quite frankly if the owners couldn't make at least 30mil a year in profits, there would be no owners, and no leagues cause that is a horrible return annually If I told you I am starting a business I need you to put up 200k and you will make 3k a year, how would that look to you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 3, 2018 It would look to me like a poor investment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 3, 2018 What I'm saying is that the entertainment aspect of the sport is 100 percent player driven. Nobody wants to watch inferior athletes and the top one barter to make as much as they can and should not be taken away from them. Does a movie studio take money away from actors if a movie flops Nope And owners are not looking at their annual bottom line.. they r looking at how much a team is worth end of investment and I can't think of a single owner off hand who has lost money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted October 4, 2018 The union would love this rule. Read it again I'm not seeing the potential positive for players here... The entire angle for players today is to get as much guaranteed money as possible.... This rule basically null and voids any significant contract they may have signed. And how does that work with Signing Bonuses? Say Player A signs a $50m/5 year deal, with $15 signing bonus.......and he's performs under the 25% threshold year 1 - what happens to that bonus money? Does he have to refund it? No way he's agreeing to that... Of course I may have even tricked up myself... I initially used the baseball and the MLBPA as an example - all the while thinking of the NFLPA in my reasoning... Bad on my part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,209 Posted October 4, 2018 Silly; it would create unnatural incentives. Bunt? Screw that. Hit a ball to the right side to advance a runner? I don't think so. It is amazing how much worse he was than the second worst hitter ever though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The PosterFormerlyKnownAs 61 Posted October 4, 2018 Damn... we're just skipping right to politics and name calling. Not even going to pretend to discuss the topic at hand. That was quick, even for this board. Ha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted October 4, 2018 I'm not seeing the potential positive for players here... The entire angle for players today is to get as much guaranteed money as possible.... This rule basically null and voids any significant contract they may have signed. And how does that work with Signing Bonuses? Say Player A signs a $50m/5 year deal, with $15 signing bonus.......and he's performs under the 25% threshold year 1 - what happens to that bonus money? Does he have to refund it? No way he's agreeing to that... Of course I may have even tricked up myself... I initially used the baseball and the MLBPA as an example - all the while thinking of the NFLPA in my reasoning... Bad on my part. He's saying that the teams reduction is only in the salary cap, not reducing what is owed the player. Player gets paid and more money available? Win win. Never gonna happen, but they would love it. Jerry would vote for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted October 4, 2018 Jerry would vote for it. I have a really bad feeling he's going to live to be a 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,340 Posted October 4, 2018 nope socialist jackass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
