Mask Mandate

[Horseman 2,430]

On 11/13/2020 at 6:26 AM, GutterBoy said:

I'm sorry but you're either not smart or you're brainwashed.

There is plenty of evidence of how masks are effective in slowly the spread of viruses.  Here is one link but I know you won't even read it: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

The use of "Face Diaper" shows your disdain and your unwillingness to follow some simple rules.

And I'm not saying that a mask works 100%.  Different masks work differently, how you wear it, all that stuff.  But if it helps stop 10% of virus transmission, that's a good thing and could help stop the spread.  Plus it's common courtesy and following rules.  Your lack of respect for rules and others makes you a bad person.  Eat my turds.

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

Let's just hope that something was learned from the horrors of mask mandates, shut downs and COVID vaccines. Maybe next time they won't be so gung ho and quick to dismiss or shame non-COVID vaxxers. 

Or not

 

[Cdub100 3,867]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's funny and sad how angry people got. I've come to learn people like gutter and even other conservative types weren't mad at me because they were scared of getting sick. By me not wearing a mask it showed them how weak and easily controlled they were. So they felt shame and took their shame/anger out on me.

[Raven Fan 362]

7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

It's funny and sad how angry people got. I've come to learn people like gutter and even other conservative types weren't mad at me because they were scared of getting sick. By me not wearing a mask it showed them how weak and easily controlled they were. So they felt shame and took their shame/anger out on me.

Make sure next time you're in surgery to tell the crew to take off their masks since they're worthless and you want them all to know how weak and easily controlled they are.

Moron...SMH

[TimHauck 2,655]

30 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Let's just hope that something was learned from the horrors of mask mandates, shut downs and COVID vaccines. Maybe next time they won't be so gung ho and quick to dismiss or shame non-COVID vaxxers. 

Or not

 

Masks and vaccines shouldn’t really be put in the same sentence.  The vaccines saved many lives.  Masks may have saved a couple

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The vaccines saved many lives

Did they? I'd say the jury is out, especially since we don't know the long term effects of these Emergency Use Vaccines. 

We're already seeing people dropping dead at an alarming rate due to heart complications, especially young people. 

[TimHauck 2,655]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Did they? I'd say the jury is out, especially since we don't know the long term effects of these Emergency Use Vaccines. 

We're already seeing people dropping dead at an alarming rate due to heart complications, especially young people. 

Got any data backing this up?

Here’s a study from Hungary showing lower all cause mortality among the vaccinated after adjusting for confounders - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9319484/

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

from Hungary 

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,500]

This is all you need to know about mask mandates...

 

This is what the researchers wore in the Wuhan labs (I used this link because they claimed it was unlikely that the virus came from the lab.  Liberals believed them... and I wouldn't be surprised if they still do... these people are "educated".  LOL):  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/why-scientists-believe-the-wuhan-lab-coronavirus-origin-theory-is-highly-unlikely

This is what Fauci said would work for us:  Want to buy any?

[TimHauck 2,655]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

 

Oh, you want US only?

And that’s from a skeptic whose best complaint is “the data stops in March 2023 when Covid deaths tanked”

Meanwhile, I’m sure the best evidence you have is probably a made up chart from “the ethical Skeptic”

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Oh, you want US only?

And that’s from a skeptic whose best complaint is “the data stops in March 2023 when Covid deaths tanked”

Meanwhile, I’m sure the best evidence you have is probably a made up chart from “the ethical Skeptic”

Israel sees link between Pfizer vaccine and myocarditis cases

The study found "there is a probable link between receiving the second dose (of Pfizer) vaccine and the appearance of myocarditis among men aged 16 to 30," it said in a statement.According to the findings, such a link was observed more among men aged 16 to 19 than in other age groups.

A U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advisory group last month recommended further study of the possibility of a link between myocarditis and mRNA vaccines, which include those from Pfizer and Moderna Inc.

[TimHauck 2,655]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Israel sees link between Pfizer vaccine and myocarditis cases

The study found "there is a probable link between receiving the second dose (of Pfizer) vaccine and the appearance of myocarditis among men aged 16 to 30," it said in a statement.According to the findings, such a link was observed more among men aged 16 to 19 than in other age groups.

A U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) advisory group last month recommended further study of the possibility of a link between myocarditis and mRNA vaccines, which include those from Pfizer and Moderna Inc.

Myocarditis doesn’t mean they’re “dropping dead at an alarming rate”

[Fireballer 2,641]

6 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Make sure next time you're in surgery to tell the crew to take off their masks since they're worthless and you want them all to know how weak and easily controlled they are.

Moron...SMH

LMAO…you think doctors wear masks in surgery to stop airborne virus?  Moron

[Raven Fan 362]

42 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

LMAO…you think doctors wear masks in surgery to stop airborne virus?  Moron

That's one reason dipchit.  Here are some more.

We recently spoke to several Yale Medicine doctors about the medical reasons why they wear masks. They are protective on several levels, explains Manisha Juthani, MD, an infectious disease specialist. “It is really important for me to wear a mask when I'm taking care of patients who have a respiratory virus that I could be at risk of getting and then potentially giving to somebody else.” 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

7 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Make sure next time you're in surgery to tell the crew to take off their masks since they're worthless and you want them all to know how weak and easily controlled they are.

Moron...SMH

You don’t understand anything, it’s hilarious.

[Raven Fan 362]

3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

You don’t understand anything, it’s hilarious.

Just remember, tell all your doctors that masks don't work.  Make sure to remind them that you got your degrees at Jethro's College of Dump Rat Shooting with a doctorate from Trump U in Advanced Deplorable Grifting.

They'll be bigly impressed...LMFAO

[Baker Boy 1,694]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

Just remember, tell all your doctors that masks don't work.  Make sure to remind him that you got your degree at Jethro's College of Dump Rat Shooting

They'll be bigly impressed...LMFAO

And he doubles down on his ignorance, more hilarity.

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

And he doubles down on his ignorance, more hilarity.

LOL, an uneducated deplorable calling me ignorant.

You can't find this kind of comedy anywhere else.

Now does your doctorate from Trump U still actually count since you know the whole shop was shut down as a fraud?

[Horseman 2,430]

I dunno guys,.

For some reason I thought it would be common knowledge for most people with a brain, let alone someone that works in the health care industry, that for open wounds during surgery it's not airborne viruses they are worried about.  It's for bacteria that you know, might infect an open wound.  

Everyday it's a new level of stupid.  

[Ron_Artest 1,215]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I dunno guys,.

For some reason I thought it would be common knowledge for most people with a brain, let alone someone that works in the health care industry, that for open wounds during surgery it's not airborne viruses they are worried about.  It's for bacteria that you know, might infect an open wound.  

Everyday it's a new level of stupid.  

How does wearing a surgical mask during surgery protect an open wound from getting infected with bacteria?

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

I dunno guys,.

For some reason I thought it would be common knowledge for most people with a brain, let alone someone that works in the health care industry, that for open wounds during surgery it's not airborne viruses they are worried about.  It's for bacteria that you know, might infect an open wound.  

Everyday it's a new level of stupid.  

You can't afford a $7 stream and you run away from $500 bets.

Your opinion is invalid on anything but being a poor welsher boyo.

Is your knowledge of surgical masks as extensive as your knowledge of financial leverage?

[Maximum Overkill 1,840]

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

The vaccines saved many lives.  Masks may have saved a couple

What's your point in all of this? Are you trying to justify you being a Government Sheep who's willing to shoot strange untested experimental poisons into your Family's bodies? Because they told you to?? 

You didn't know a damn thing about what was in that experimental poison, yet you bent over like a Cuck and took it like a champion. You probably forced it on your kids as well. 

But the ones who didn't take it are somehow bad? We're here aren't we? 

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

What's your point in all of this? Are you trying to justify you being a Government Sheep who's willing to shoot strange untested experimental poisons into your Family's bodies? Because they told you to?? 

You didn't know a damn thing about what was in that experimental poison, yet you bent over like a Cuck and took it like a champion. You probably forced it on your kids as well. 

But the ones who didn't take it are somehow bad? We're here aren't we? 

If your children or wife ever get a virulent form of cancer, will you agree to let them into clinical trials using untested medicines?

And those of us who believe in science are still here too boyo.  And actually, from a percentage perspective, the anti-vaxxers died or got extremely sick at a quite bigly higher rate than we who believe in science. 

In fact, conservatives were so anti-vaxx and anti-science that it actually impacted the 2022 mid-terms so many of them unfortunately died.

 

[Horseman 2,430]

14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

How does wearing a surgical mask during surgery protect an open wound from getting infected with bacteria?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24741720/#:~:text=Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide,reducing the frequency of SSIs.

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In the operating room (OR) there are procedures and practices in place intended to reduce the probability of infectious material transfer between OR staff and patients. Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide a physical barrier between bacteria of oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal origin and an open patient wound. Wearing a SFM in the OR is one of many long standing preventative practices, yet controversy exists as to the clinical effectiveness of SFMs in reducing the frequency of SSIs.

You might remember during covid that people were required to be tested before allowed to have surgery.  And medical personnel were regularly tested. Oh, and the simple fact that doctors have been wearing masks in operating rooms for over a century.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/#:~:text=The facemask has been used,contamination and surgical site infection.

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The facemask has been used in surgical settings for over a hundred years; first described in 1897, at its inception, it consisted merely of a single layer of gauze to cover the mouth, and its primary function was to protect the patient from contamination and surgical site infection.

Never had been nor never was about airborne viruses, because simply put, a thin layer of gauze doesn't do anything for airborne viruses.  

[Raven Fan 362]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24741720/#:~:text=Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide,reducing the frequency of SSIs.

You might remember during covid that people were required to be tested before allowed to have surgery.  And medical personnel were regularly tested. Oh, and the simple fact that doctors have been wearing masks in operating rooms for over a century.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/#:~:text=The facemask has been used,contamination and surgical site infection.

Never had been nor never was about airborne viruses, because simply put, a thin layer of gauze doesn't do anything for airborne viruses.  

While for once you're not wrong about the use of mask in surgery, if masks are useless against airborne viruses why do hospitals and medical clinics require people to wear masks during high flu, RSV, or covid outbreaks?

They all virtue signaling boyo?

[Ron_Artest 1,215]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24741720/#:~:text=Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide,reducing the frequency of SSIs.

You might remember during covid that people were required to be tested before allowed to have surgery.  And medical personnel were regularly tested. Oh, and the simple fact that doctors have been wearing masks in operating rooms for over a century.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/#:~:text=The facemask has been used,contamination and surgical site infection.

Never had been nor never was about airborne viruses, because simply put, a thing layer of gauze doesn't do anything for airborne viruses.  

Do you read your own links?

Statistical analysis of the extracted data revealed no statistically significant association between mask usage and the incidence of surgical site infection.

[Ron_Artest 1,215]

4 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

While for once you're not wrong about the use of mask in surgery, if masks are useless against airborne viruses why do hospitals and medical clinics require people to wear masks during high flu, RSV, or covid outbreaks?

They all virtue signaling boyo?

I don't think he knows what an airborne illness is.  I think he thinks that the virus flies on its own.

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

I don't think he knows what an airborne illness is.  I think he thinks that the virus flies on its own.

Wait, it doesn't have wings and just take off from your mouth?

Huh

[Horseman 2,430]

 

37 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Is your knowledge of surgical masks as extensive as your knowledge of financial leverage?

Let's compare.  

Choice A:

25 minutes ago, Horseman said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24741720/#:~:text=Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide,reducing the frequency of SSIs.

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In the operating room (OR) there are procedures and practices in place intended to reduce the probability of infectious material transfer between OR staff and patients. Surgical face masks (SFMs) provide a physical barrier between bacteria of oropharyngeal and nasopharyngeal origin and an open patient wound. Wearing a SFM in the OR is one of many long standing preventative practices, yet controversy exists as to the clinical effectiveness of SFMs in reducing the frequency of SSIs.

You might remember during covid that people were required to be tested before allowed to have surgery.  And medical personnel were regularly tested. Oh, and the simple fact that doctors have been wearing masks in operating rooms for over a century.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/#:~:text=The facemask has been used,contamination and surgical site infection.

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The facemask has been used in surgical settings for over a hundred years; first described in 1897, at its inception, it consisted merely of a single layer of gauze to cover the mouth, and its primary function was to protect the patient from contamination and surgical site infection.

Never had been nor never was about airborne viruses, because simply put, a thin layer of gauze doesn't do anything for airborne viruses.  

Choice B:

8 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Make sure next time you're in surgery to tell the crew to take off their masks since they're worthless and you want them all to know how weak and easily controlled they are.

Moron...SMH

I think it's clear to everyone who the idiot in the room is.   

[Horseman 2,430]

27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Do you read your own links?

Statistical analysis of the extracted data revealed no statistically significant association between mask usage and the incidence of surgical site infection.

Tiny brain always struggles with simple English.  There is no controversy why they are worn.  There is controversy on their effectiveness.

But hey, if you you want to argue that they don't work for bacteria then you must conclude they can't work for airborne covid.  That's 5 microns compared to 0.1 microns.  A factor of 50x on average.  

[Fireballer 2,641]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

That's one reason dipchit.  Here are some more.

We recently spoke to several Yale Medicine doctors about the medical reasons why they wear masks. They are protective on several levels, explains Manisha Juthani, MD, an infectious disease specialist. “It is really important for me to wear a mask when I'm taking care of patients who have a respiratory virus that I could be at risk of getting and then potentially giving to somebody else.” 

Wow. Back to the drawing board, fella.  What type of surgery does this specific infection disease specialist perform?  

[Horseman 2,430]

8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Wow. Back to the drawing board, fella.  What type of surgery does this specific infection disease specialist perform?  

None.  She's the Dr. Fauci of Connecticut.  

[TheNewGirl 1,415]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

Just remember, tell all your doctors that masks don't work.  Make sure to remind them that you got your degrees at Jethro's College of Dump Rat Shooting with a doctorate from Trump U in Advanced Deplorable Grifting.

They'll be bigly impressed...LMFAO

True story. 

I went to the doctor a few weeks ago, I had a fever the night before of around 100.6. I'd had a long running cold that suddenly turned feverish and I wanted to be checked for pneumonia. 

Sitting in his office WEARING A MASK, he literally said: 

"You had a fever last night? Less than 24 hours ago?" 

"Yes." 

"I need to leave the exam room, and put on PPE. I will call you from my office down the hall and do all of the intake, so we spend less time in the confined room together. I know you have a mask on, but they don't work much. To be fully covered and safe, you'd have to wear the N95." 

I was literally wearing the masks they offer IN the doctors office. 

He went to his office, called me, did the 15 to 20 minute intake. Came in, did the physical exam (this time wearing additional covering and a plastic face mask over his N95). 

This is my primary care physician through my HMO, not anyone new. 

[Raven Fan 362]

53 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

Let's compare.  

Choice A:

Choice B:

I think it's clear to everyone who the idiot in the room is.   

Sorry boyo.  You have zero idea about basic financial concepts like leverage and you're too poor to afford a $7 stream or a $500 bet.

I don't take anyone who needs to steal $7 streams seriously.

Begone peasant. 

[Horseman 2,430]

3 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Sorry boyo.  You have zero idea about basic financial concepts like leverage and you're too poor to afford a $7 stream or a $500 bet.

I don't take anyone who needs to steal $7 streams seriously.

Begone peasant. 

When I said everyone it obviously excludes the idiot.   

 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Horseman said:

When I said everyone it obviously excludes the idiot.   

 

You gonna figure out how to steal the superbowl stream...oh wait, that's over the air so you can actually afford that one.

[Ron_Artest 1,215]

56 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Tiny brain always struggles with simple English.  There is no controversy why they are worn.  There is controversy on their effectiveness.

But hey, if you you want to argue that they don't work for bacteria then you must conclude they can't work for airborne covid.  That's 5 microns compared to 0.1 microns.  A factor of 50x on average.  

I asked you how a mask prevents an open wound from getting bacteria and you give me a link saying it doesn't.

Now you're talking about the size of a virus without understanding that viruses travel on respiratory droplets.

 

[TimHauck 2,655]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

What's your point in all of this? Are you trying to justify you being a Government Sheep who's willing to shoot strange untested experimental poisons into your Family's bodies? Because they told you to?? 

You didn't know a damn thing about what was in that experimental poison, yet you bent over like a Cuck and took it like a champion. You probably forced it on your kids as well. 

But the ones who didn't take it are somehow bad? We're here aren't we? 

My kids did not get the vaccine.

My point is simply to say that the vaccine was extremely helpful in preventing deaths.  Thanks Trump!  I wouldn’t say you are “bad” if you didn’t get it, but if you are overweight or over 50 & not previously infected when the vaccines were rolled out then you did not make a very wise decision, even if you ended up not getting a bad case of Covid.  There are many people in the lower vaccinated southeastern US who are no longer “here” after dying of Covid during the Delta wave, unfortunately.

[Horseman 2,430]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I asked you how a mask prevents an open wound from getting bacteria and you give me a link saying it doesn't.

Now you're talking about the size of a virus without understanding that viruses travel on respiratory droplets.

 

Did you name that strawman Gutterboy Jr.?   

 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,215]

Just now, Horseman said:

Did you name that strawman Gutterboy?   

 

 

Throws the gun