Stock Market bubble - will crash

[Hardcore troubadour 15,422]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

They were lower.  Market goes up and down bruh.  You can't predict it.  You should know you tried and failed.

I know. That’s why I don’t do it anymore. You should stop too, you’re worse. But you want it so bad.  No self control. Sad. 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I know. You should too.  But you want it so bad.  No self control. Sad. 

I don't want the market to crash stop lying.  I am invested in the market.  I want a strong economy.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,422]

5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I don't want the market to crash stop lying.  I am invested in the market.  I want a strong economy.

  Bullshitt. You want it to go down so bad. You and Tim and a few others around here. That’s why you won’t shut up after being so wrong all the time. 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

  Bullshitt. You want it to go down so bad. You and Tim and a few others around here. That’s why you won’t shut up after being so wrong all the time. 

Bullshitt.  Why would I want my investments to suffer? Why would I want to lose my job?  Why would I want my kids, family and friends hurt?  Idiot.

Tim and I have been right.  These tariffs have been terrible for the economy and we're heading into recession.

[MDC 7,408]

Trump crashed the stock market. HT supports and defends Trump. Gutterboy’s fault. 

 

[Horseman 2,456]

 

I think the worst is over for the market. I’m pretty confident about that,” says legendary investor Bill Miller, best known for beating the S&P 500 SPX+0.53% 15 straight years.

One reason he’s confident is the commonalty of 20% corrections, seen in in 2011, 2016, 2018, and 2022. He views history as a guide and says no matter what the cause of the selloff, when it comes to what happens next, “probabilistically you’re going to do very, very well if you’re in the market,” he said.

[The Real timschochet 6,761]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

 

I think the worst is over for the market. I’m pretty confident about that,” says legendary investor Bill Miller, best known for beating the S&P 500 SPX+0.53% 15 straight years.

One reason he’s confident is the commonalty of 20% corrections, seen in in 2011, 2016, 2018, and 2022. He views history as a guide and says no matter what the cause of the selloff, when it comes to what happens next, “probabilistically you’re going to do very, very well if you’re in the market,” he said.

I’m certainly no expert like he is but I don’t see how he can make this assumption. Again it all comes down to a quick resolution of our embargo on China. Unless Trump backs down we’re staring  at stagflation in the face and that has to being down the stock market with it. And the clock is ticking…

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

Bro completely ignored when we've seen a greater than 20% sell off.  But yes the long term trend from the 1800s is positive sure 

[thegeneral 3,208]

The trade wars will be over by late summer. Stock market will go up.

Yuge victories like you have never seen (that Trump will be saying are terrible and we are getting ripped off as soon as he’s out of power).

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The trade wars will be over by late summer. Stock market will go up.

Yuge victories like you have never seen (that Trump will be saying are terrible and we are getting ripped off as soon as he’s out of power).

If he declares victory and cancels all his tariffs AND gets his tax cuts passed, then I think you're right.

Both are a big IF right now, IMO.

[thegeneral 3,208]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

If he declares victory and cancels all his tariffs AND gets his tax cuts passed, then I think you're right.

Both are a big IF right now, IMO.

Tax cuts are a lock before midterms. Got to hook up the billionaires while he has the House.

I’m betting there is no way he has these trade issues hanging over voter’s heads Nov 26 so they will be wrapped up regardless of the outcome.

China will be last, maybe that one stretches out a bit. 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Tax cuts are a lock before midterms. Got to hook up the billionaires while he has the House.

I’m betting there is no way he has these trade issues hanging over voter’s heads Nov 26 so they will be wrapped up regardless of the outcome.

China will be last, maybe that one stretches out a bit. 

Medicaid cuts will not go over well with the masses.  The budget was supposed to get passed before memorial day but now it's looking like August.

I too think that once shelves go empty and people start paying tariffs sentiment will turn and he'll cave, but it's enough to cause a mild recession at this point.

Disaster is if his brain is so far diminished that he fights till the end on this.

[thegeneral 3,208]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Medicaid cuts will not go over well with the masses.  The budget was supposed to get passed before memorial day but now it's looking like August.

I too think that once shelves go empty and people start paying tariffs sentiment will turn and he'll cave, but it's enough to cause a mild recession at this point.

Disaster is if his brain is so far diminished that he fights till the end on this.

I think Medicare cuts will be in there to some degree. House will pass something Senate will adjust. Will be convoluted and presented as fixing Medicare for the future, cuts will be spun as waste prevention, letting States determining their choice, and solvency. Illegal aliens will definitely be invoked

Tax cuts will happen regardless what happens with potential Medicare cuts. Lock of the century!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,422]

Did we get to 20 pct this time? 

[HTH 95]

I"m still all in the money market.

The money is safe, but I'm only making about 5%.

[Horseman 2,456]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m certainly no expert like he is but I don’t see how he can make this assumption. Again it all comes down to a quick resolution of our embargo on China. Unless Trump backs down we’re staring  at stagflation in the face and that has to being down the stock market with it. And the clock is ticking…

When Bill Miller has an opinion I listen. When you open your fat mouth it's just garbage that's usually dead wrong.  

 

[Horseman 2,456]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Tax cuts will happen regardless what happens with potential Medicare cuts. Lock of the century!

Even the effeminate from Seattle is smarter than GutterBoy.   

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When Bill Miller has an opinion I listen.

 

Bill Miller once told CNBC, “I ruled out a return to the Depression, just as I ruled out a return to the Civil War.”  In late 2007, he ignored the warning signs and the well-intentioned alarm from his investors and kept buying Washington Mutual, AIG, Countrywide, Wachovia, and Citigroup and 8% of Freddie Mac.

 

[thegeneral 3,208]

1 hour ago, HTH said:

I"m still all in the money market.

The money is safe, but I'm only making about 5%.

5% is better than a stick in the eye. But if you are more than 5 years out or so this is way too cautious. Wouldn’t have more than 40% in that, much less the longer your horizon. Just one person’s opinion. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Even the effeminate from Seattle is smarter than GutterBoy.   

Micropeen weighs in!

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When Bill Miller has an opinion I listen.  

 

In March, 2008,  Bill Miller loaded up on Bear Stearns for about $30 a share. Not a bad price, considering that it was going for $154 a share not long before.  Unfortunately, Bear Stearns collapsed just days later and the Fed had to broker an embarrassing deal that sold the investment house to JP Morgan Chase for an insulting $2 a share.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,422]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Did we get to 20 pct this time? 

Well? 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When Bill Miller has an opinion I listen.

 

Bill Miller invested approximately $300 million in Enron stock during the fall of 2001. He began purchasing shares when the stock price was in the low teens and continued buying as it declined to around $3 per share. Miller's average cost basis was about $7 per share. Ultimately, he sold the position at approximately 80 cents per share, resulting in a loss of about 89%

[Horseman 2,456]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

In March, 2008,  Bill Miller loaded up on Bear Stearns for about $30 a share. Not a bad price, considering that it was going for $154 a share not long before.  Unfortunately, Bear Stearns collapsed just days later and the Fed had to broker an embarrassing deal that sold the investment house to JP Morgan Chase for an insulting $2 a share.

Barely 5 foot tall and you want to get in a peenis competition with Bill Miller?  You're just a chatgpt copy and paste moron.  

[Horseman 2,456]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Bill Miller invested approximately $300 million in Enron stock during the fall of 2001. He began purchasing shares when the stock price was in the low teens and continued buying as it declined to around $3 per share. Miller's average cost basis was about $7 per share. Ultimately, he sold the position at approximately 80 cents per share, resulting in a loss of about 89%

Got to crack some eggs to make an omelette. His net worth is half a billion.  You lose again.    

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

20 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When Bill Miller has an opinion I listen.

 

Miller bet that Kodak would be worth $100 per share ten years ago.  He had to dump Leg Mason's 25% ownership of the imaging company for $3.89 a share.  The fund realized $551 million in losses in the sale. Eastman Kodak was once a blue chip stock, but the company has struggled to remain relevant in a mostly film-free world.

[Horseman 2,456]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Miller bet that Kodak would be worth $100 per share ten years ago.  He had to dump Leg Mason's 25% ownership of the imaging company for $3.89 a share.  The fund realized $551 million in losses in the sale. Eastman Kodak was once a blue chip stock, but the company has struggled to remain relevant in a mostly film-free world.

Hey Tiny.  You realize that during the time these individual stock failures happened he still overall beat the S&P?  It's right there in your chatgpt you're copying from.  

Proof right here that AI is worthless if you're brain isn't big enough to use it correctly.   

[thegeneral 3,208]

Everyone can post a billionaire’s opinion of where the market will go. Good and bad. 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hey Tiny.  You realize that during the time these individual stock failures happened he still overall beat the S&P?  It's right there in your chatgpt you're copying from.  

Proof right here that AI is worthless if you're brain isn't big enough to use it correctly.   

Wrong.  Bill Miller beat the S&P between 1991 and 2005.  What I posted happened after that with the exception of Enron.  His Legg Mason fund once managed $20B in assets and went down to $2B.

Keep listening to him.  His story is a well known Wall St tragedy and you regard him as a hero.

[Horseman 2,456]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Wrong.  Bill Miller beat the S&P between 1991 and 2005.  What I posted happened after that with the exception of Enron.  His Legg Mason fund once managed $20B in assets and went down to $2B.

Keep listening to him.  His story is a well known Wall St tragedy and you regard him as a hero.

I "listen" to a lot of well knowns on Wallstreet.  Listening doesn't hurt anything, it's acting.   

And only in your world is a guy worth a half a billion a tragedy.   Go back to chatgpt, it's better when you're not trying to think for yourself.   

 

[Horseman 2,456]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Everyone can post a billionaire’s opinion of where the market will go. Good and bad. 

Lots of posts of opinions from people who by all accounts are horrible investors. 

I posted one that I tend to agree with from a famous successful investor.  You can take it or leave it. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Lots of posts of opinions from people who by all accounts are horrible investors. 

I posted one that I tend to agree with from a famous successful investor.  You can take it or leave it. 

Everyone should take or leave 99.9% of every thing posted here. Especially when dealing with their finances or important decisions. 

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

13 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I posted one that I tend to agree with from a famous successful investor.

[Horseman 2,456]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Everyone should take or leave 99.9% of every thing posted here. Especially when dealing with their finances or important decisions. 

Disagree.  There is a lot more than 1 in 1000 good advise posts.  

[Horseman 2,456]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

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Yes, Bill Miller is widely regarded as a successful investor, celebrated for his long-term market-beating performance and bold investment choices.

 

[thegeneral 3,208]

17 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Disagree.  There is a lot more than 1 in 1000 good advise posts.  

*advice

[Ron_Artest 1,512]

19 minutes ago, Horseman said:

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Accuses me of and mocks me for using chatgpt, then uses chatgpt to back himself up

[Horseman 2,456]

10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Accuses me of and mocks me for using chatgpt, then uses chatgpt to back himself up

Still mocking you dumbasss. HFS

[easilyscan 924]

I gave my analysis of why I liked Crocs stock on page 38. It was trading at $90.72 that day.  Someone thought it was funny.

$111.72

FINY

+10.955 (+10.87%)

 

[avoiding injuries 1,580]

So liberals are rooting against the market and economy to try and win political points?