Raven Fan 362 Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I know we overthrew the previous regime and the guy that got instilled is our puppet thats all I am saying we have spent more supporting Zelensky than we did in Afghanistan for our own war that I didnt agree with Wait, did Zelinsky invade Russia? Was Zelinsky not fairly elected? How did the US overthrow the previous regime? What is it with cultist and the conspiracy theories? So very odd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: Wait, did Zelinsky invade Russia? Was Zelinsky not fairly elected? How did the US overthrow the previous regime? What is it with cultist and the conspiracy theories? So very odd. wait its a conspiracy that the US acted to change the regime? also I dont care whether Russia or Ukraine invaded anything here you go, from one of the most liberal sites that exists https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine https://www.transcend.org/tms/2018/06/how-and-why-the-us-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/ If America’s successful February 2014 overthrow and replacement of Ukraine’s democratically elected neutralist Government doesn’t soon produce a world-ending nuclear war (World War III), then there will be historical accounts of that overthrow, and the accounts are already increasingly trending and consolidating toward a historical consensus that it was a coup — that it was imposed by “somebody from the new coalition” — i.e., that the termination of the then-existing democratic (though like all its predecessors, corrupt) Ukrainian Government, wasn’t authentically a ‘revolution’ such as the US Government has contended, and certainly wasn’t at all democratic, but was instead a coup (and a very bloody one, at that), and totally illegal (though backed by The West). The ousted president Yanukovych Victor was surely not a perfect politician, though it appears that there were few such politicians in the country. Nonetheless, it should be considered that president Yanukovych was elevated into present in an election that could be termed as free and fair in 2010. Indeed, a number of some international analysts considered the election of president Yanukovych as a critical step in creating a democratic and orderly political structure in the state of Ukraine. The enmity between U.S and the administration of President Yanukovych Victor stemmed from the close ties of Yanukovych with Russia, which was an ardent enemy of U.S. Russia, had rubbed the U.S neocons the wrong way. What is more, many of the influential neocons in Washington had been enraged with President Vladimir Putin because he had influenced Barack Obama to avert the U.S war against Syria and Iran. In these cases, the political figures had wanted to maneuver Obama to engage U.S into confrontations as a way of advancing their short and long-term strategy of regime change across Middle East. The entire process had began in 2003 when the U.S invaded Iraq. The process had only paused because of the disastrous impact of the war. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 25, 2022 but hey good to see liberals being big neocon war mongers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,410 Posted November 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: but hey good to see liberals being big neocon war mongers Amazing how sure they are they know what went down. I also love how they continually bring up Russian oligarchs. There is no such thing. Just gangsters that operate with Putins permission as long as they keep their mouths shut and kick up to him. I wonder if they think Zuckerberg is an oligarch? But they have no issue with him, a true Oligarch. The biggest of them all. Amongst many others in the US. They once spoke out about them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Amazing how sure they are they know what went down. I also love how they continually bring up Russian oligarchs. There is no such thing. Just gangsters that operate with Putins permission as long as they keep their mouths shut and kick up to him. I wonder if they think Zuckerberg is an oligarch? But they have no issue with him, a true Oligarch. The biggest of them all. Amongst many others in the US. They once spoke out about them. dont forget Bezos, who they had no problem with buying WAPO, but Elon (LIBERTARIAN) buys Twitter and they sh1t all over themselves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,410 Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: dont forget Bezos, who they had no problem with buying WAPO, but Elon (LIBERTARIAN) buys Twitter and they sh1t all over themselves Remember the one pct? They hated them. But they switched out their hate of them for 50 pct of the country. Nifty trick they didn’t even notice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: dont forget Bezos, who they had no problem with buying WAPO, but Elon (LIBERTARIAN) buys Twitter and they sh1t all over themselves MAGA Raiders putting in the work again trying to pretend he isn't a MAGA sycophant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: MAGA Raiders putting in the work again trying to pretend he isn't a MAGA sycophant. again conservative leaning libertarian dont care if you kill your baby dont care if you cut off your junk dont care if you get married leave my kids alone if that makes me MAGA well so be it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: again conservative leaning libertarian dont care if you kill your baby dont care if you cut off your junk dont care if you get married leave my kids alone if that makes me MAGA well so be it What makes you MAGA- is being a MAGA. Simple as that. Based off of everything else you say here I don't believe you on any of the stuff you say you "don't care" about there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: What makes you MAGA- is being a MAGA. Simple as that. Based off of everything else you say here I don't believe you on any of the stuff you say you "don't care" about there. So if I don’t support trump how can I be maga. If I don’t buy into the election nonsense either im probably the most anti govt person here I have trans friends and treat them like everyone else i have supported gay marriage since I was like 6 cause my aunt is a dyke i think abortion as birth control is morally wrong however use it as you want up to a certain limit and don’t expect me to pay for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: So if I don’t support trump how can I be maga. If I don’t buy into the election nonsense either im probably the most anti govt person here I have trans friends and treat them like everyone else i have supported gay marriage since I was like 6 cause my aunt is a dyke i think abortion as birth control is morally wrong however use it as you want up to a certain limit and don’t expect me to pay for it Not shocked you're a homo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,410 Posted November 25, 2022 The lefts strategy as it pertains to the laptop is going to be to smear the people asking the questions. Book it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: So if I don’t support trump how can I be maga. If I don’t buy into the election nonsense either im probably the most anti govt person here I have trans friends and treat them like everyone else i have supported gay marriage since I was like 6 cause my aunt is a dyke i think abortion as birth control is morally wrong however use it as you want up to a certain limit and don’t expect me to pay for it Because I don't believe you when you say what you believe. Your overall posting history here supports my assertion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Because I don't believe you when you say what you believe. Your overall posting history here supports my assertion. No my posting history says that I’m a conservative that is just tired of the screaming leftists continually lying about trump. I hate having to defend the nonsense but I guarantee I’m closest to center of anyone here. @Herbivore being the left side equivalent of me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No my posting history says that I’m a conservative that is just tired of the screaming leftists continually lying about trump. I hate having to defend the nonsense but I guarantee I’m closest to center of anyone here. @Herbivore being the left side equivalent of me Sure....whatever you got to tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Herbivore is closest here to being a true blue centrist. You are a MAGA weirdo who just won't admit they are because you want to try and "play fair" about "screaming leftists continually lying about trump" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No my posting history says that I’m a conservative that is just tired of the screaming leftists continually lying about trump. I hate having to defend the nonsense but I guarantee I’m closest to center of anyone here. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Sure....whatever you got to tell yourself to make yourself feel better. Herbivore is closest here to being a true blue centrist. You are a MAGA weirdo who just won't admit they are because you want to try and "play fair" about "screaming leftists continually lying about trump" So Russia was true? Trump is putins puppet? Ukraine impeachment was legit? Good people on both sides? Etc etc I don’t like the trans sh1t pushed on kids. And I hate taxes, and want a secure border. Other than that I don’t give a sh1t i believe in personal responsibility and freedom. Something the left doesn’t put it this way. There is enough wrong with trump you don’t need to make up stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: So Russia was true? Trump is putins puppet? Ukraine impeachment was legit? Good people on both sides? Etc etc I don’t like the trans sh1t pushed on kids. And I hate taxes, and want a secure border. Other than that I don’t give a sh1t i believe in personal responsibility and freedom. Something the left doesn’t Are you at the bottom of your checklist yet before you go back into just defending the MAGA point of view? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Are you at the bottom of your checklist yet before you go back into just defending the MAGA point of view? What is the maga point of view? please differentiate from maga super maga and mega maga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: What is the maga point of view? please differentiate from maga super maga and mega maga I guess you finally hit the end of your checklist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: I guess you finally hit the end of your checklist. So you can’t tell me what maga viewpoint is. But can throw it around at anyone who leans conservative. Got it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: So you can’t tell me what maga viewpoint is. But can throw it around at anyone who leans conservative. Got it It does not matter if I tell you what it is. You will never own up to it. You will just say "Here is a list of things I believe...." and then spend the next three weeks undercutting it and throwing barbs at one side and all that. There is no need to go round and round on it. I see what you actually are. You are too cowardly to admit it because you think it will hurt your GC cred or some weird shiit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It does not matter if I tell you what it is. You will never own up to it. You will just say "Here is a list of things I believe...." and then spend the next three weeks undercutting it and throwing barbs at one side and all that. There is no need to go round and round on it. I see what you actually are. You are too cowardly to admit it because you think it will hurt your GC cred or some weird shiit I’ve thrown plenty at trump over the years so whatever. I just feel like the left is far more destructive than the right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I’ve thrown plenty at trump over the years so whatever. I just feel like the left is far more destructive than the right Yeah-- I would expect a MAGA person to say that and believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Yeah-- I would expect a MAGA person to say that and believe it. Or anyone who actually has watched what has happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Or anyone who actually has watched what has happened Okay MAGAman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 26, 2022 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Or anyone who actually has watched what has happened 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Okay MAGAman I wouldnt say raiders is true Maga, Conservative Libertarian seems accurate. I think you are a bit off here. and Ravens fan..wtf? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 26, 2022 also would say the dems are warmongers cause of ukraine aid is nonsense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,410 Posted November 26, 2022 Russia has elections too. Putin won in a landslide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Herbivore said: I wouldnt say raiders is true Maga, Conservative Libertarian seems accurate. I think you are a bit off here. and Ravens fan..wtf? Would you say he’s the closest to the center of anyone here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Herbivore said: I wouldnt say raiders is true Maga, Conservative Libertarian seems accurate. I think you are a bit off here. and Ravens fan..wtf? I would say Raiders posting history seems to smack one way that is counter to what he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted November 26, 2022 Does anyone really care what people who rationalize the castration of children call someone? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Would you say he’s the closest to the center of anyone here? not sure who would fit that title, but he does have some centrist type positions, and then some more righty ones. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: I would say Raiders posting history seems to smack one way that is counter to what he says. I think raiders is reasonable, even when we don't agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted November 26, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 3:17 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: And any republicans that did take the money can hang as well. Let’s go! Among the 8 were 4 Dems and 4 Republicans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,410 Posted November 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, jonmx said: Does anyone really care what people who rationalize the castration of children call someone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, jonmx said: Does anyone really care what people who rationalize the castration of children call someone? And here comes the psycho pervert fantasizing about kids and their genitles again. Mr. Psycho Pervert, how many kids have been castrated this year? And I mean in reality and not in your sick fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jonmx said: Does anyone really care what people who rationalize the castration of children call someone? Who here has rationalized the castration of children? 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: I think raiders is reasonable, even when we don't agree I've yet to see that. But obviously your experience is different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,903 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jonmx said: Does anyone really care what people who rationalize the castration of children call someone? Doesn't bother me one bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Raven Fan said: And here comes the psycho pervert fantasizing about kids and their genitles again. Mr. Psycho Pervert, how many kids have been castrated this year? And I mean in reality and not in your sick fantasy. If that was really true, I woukd be your hero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites