[** Official Trumpty Dumpty Thread - Non-Doomsday **]

[paulinstl 296]

Just now, Strike said:

I'd like to see the requested evidence first.  Typical board leftie, moving the goalposts when logic blows away your argument.

Answer the question, what if the cops let them in? What does that mean? Help me out just a little, please.

[paulinstl 296]

2 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Are we back on the summer of 2020? Because that wasn't a few hours on 1 day. 

A very bad few months for our country indeed.

[Strike 5,563]

2 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Answer the question, what if the cops let them in? What does that mean? Help me out just a little, please.

LOL  That's what I thought. 

[craftsman 1,045]

Just now, paulinstl said:

So it was  Democrat operation? Holy crazy AF.

It was like a bunch of drunks at a football game. Now if you study the riots of 2020, you will see that was a democrat run process.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

5 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

So it was  Democrat operation? Holy crazy AF.

They were in charge of security. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

4 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

A very bad few months for our country indeed.

Months? They were lighting fires and looting on day one. 

[jerryskids 6,813]

20 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

I would tend to believe the guy who shot the video who said this

 

 

Hmm, that's odd, because the video clearly shows the police moving the little thing that wasn't physically stopping anyone, then turn their backs and saunter on away.  But hey, he took the video, so he knows why they had no apparent concern for the crowd.   

[paulinstl 296]

2 minutes ago, craftsman said:

It was like a bunch of drunks at a football game. Now if you study the riots of 2020, you will see that was a democrat run process.

No, it was groups of people who decided that the election was fraudulent and went to DC to try to stop the certification of an election. Do you honestly equate it to drunk football fans?

[paulinstl 296]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Hmm, that's odd, because the video clearly shows the police moving the little thing that wasn't physically stopping anyone, then turn their backs and saunter on away.  But hey, he took the video, so he knows why they had no apparent concern for the crowd.   

Well Skids, will you please tell me what difference it made whether the cops did or didn't? I can't get a reply that isn't an attack at my asking it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

2 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

No, it was groups of people who decided that the election was fraudulent and went to DC to try to stop the certification of an election. Do you honestly equate it to drunk football fans?

I think you’re giving that crowd too much credit. I doubt most of them were aware of the process to decertify. They were a mob, and acted like one. 

[jerryskids 6,813]

2 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

No, it was groups of people who decided that the election was fraudulent and went to DC to try to stop the certification of an election. Do you honestly equate it to drunk football fans?

No, the vast majority went there to protest.  A handful of people had some crazy idea of actually doing something, and they are in prison.

[jerryskids 6,813]

Just now, paulinstl said:

Well Skids, will you please tell me what difference it made whether the cops did or didn't? I can't get a reply that isn't an attack at my asking it. 

I already explained that their behavior showed no concern about the crowd, and the two options for that. You dismiss offhand the thought that some civil unrest was desired by the higher up Dems, yet we can't seem to track down the investigation into this as part of the thorough 1/6 investigation to improve security.

You haven't explained why they have no concern for the crowd, what are your thoughts?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

3 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Well Skids, will you please tell me what difference it made whether the cops did or didn't? I can't get a reply that isn't an attack at my asking it. 

You think there’s nothing to question about cops opening doors for a mob? Really?  Why do you think they did it? Didn’t want the glass  broke? Hmmm, they’re gonna kill the VP. Better not let them break down  doors to do it. We all know you people think walls don’t work, now doors too? 

[paulinstl 296]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I already explained that their behavior showed no concern about the crowd, and the two options for that. You dismiss offhand the thought that some civil unrest was desired by the higher up Dems, yet we can't seem to track down the investigation into this as part of the thorough 1/6 investigation to improve security.

You haven't explained why they have no concern for the crowd, what are your thoughts?

 

I think they realized that they were so badly outnumbered they decided to not make a stand at that time or place. I really think that's what happened. I find it really hard to believe it was a Democrat operation or that it was anything other than what it looked like, a bunch of pissed off Trump supporters.

[Strike 5,563]

1 minute ago, paulinstl said:

I think they realized that they were so badly outnumbered they decided to not make a stand at that time or place. I really think that's what happened. I find it really hard to believe it was a Democrat operation or that it was anything other than what it looked like, a bunch of pissed off Trump supporters.

This should be easy to verify.  I'm sure all the cops that were outnumbered 100-1, or at least a representative number of them, testified at the J6 hearings.  Please post a link to the transcript of their testimony.  I mean, you act like there weren't any witnesses.  Oh wait, I mean you act like there was only a single witness.  But there should have been hundreds or thousands.  We don't need to speculate as to what happened.  Just supply us with the testimony from those who were there.  Why do you refuse to do that?

[jerryskids 6,813]

Just now, paulinstl said:

I think they realized that they were so badly outnumbered they decided to not make a stand at that time or place. I really think that's what happened. I find it really hard to believe it was a Democrat operation or that it was anything other than what it looked like, a bunch of pissed off Trump supporters.

If that were the case after opening the "barricade" they would have quickly backed to the side keeping an eye on the violent, dangerous crowd.  But instead they just turned around and strolled.  This seems inconsistent to me, and I'm interested in your thoughts as to why they showed no concern for them.  Again:

 

 

[paulinstl 296]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

This should be easy to verify.  I'm sure all the cops that were outnumbered 100-1, or at least a representative number of them, testified at the J6 hearings.  Please post a link to the transcript of their testimony.  I mean, you act like there weren't any witnesses.  Oh wait, I mean you act like there was only a single witness.  But there should have been hundreds or thousands.  We don't need to speculate as to what happened.  Just supply us with the testimony from those who were there.  Why do you refuse to do that?

OK, I will do that. give some time please. 

[paulinstl 296]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If that were the case after opening the "barricade" they would have quickly backed to the side keeping an eye on the violent, dangerous crowd.  But instead they just turned around and strolled.  This seems inconsistent to me, and I'm interested in your thoughts as to why they showed no concern for them.  Again:

 

 

They bailed out. I have no answer other than they chose not to engage,

[craftsman 1,045]

The whole "Jan 6" thing is a joke. As much as you liberals think conservatives are losers, we know you honestly can't think they wanted to actually take over the government in a couple hours by fighting with selfies. It's stupid you keep arguing this.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

What was debunked?  What did we see and I described did not happen.  Did the police not casually pull aside the (pretty much token) barrier, turn around, and slowly amble towards the Capitol with the "violent" crowd behind them?

Also stop with the public hanging stuff, you just sound dumber.

They had a focking gallows built out front, were chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and Clownzo was aware of it and said it wasn't a bad idea.

Are you actually trying to deny this? 

There were some police that did bad things that day, and they were investigated. How do you know they weren't in on the whole thing?

But a lot of falsities that MAGAtards have generated about the police actions have been debunked.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/fact-check-capitol-insurrection-january-6-lies/index.html

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Clownzo said in a book interview in March that “the Capitol Police were ushering people in” and “the Capitol Police were very friendly. You know, they were hugging and kissing.” The claim has been echoed by Trump supporters. For example, Clownzo-endorsed Republican Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake declared at a Clownzo rally in October that the people being held in jail over the Capitol attack “were invited in by Capitol Police.”

Facts First: The claim that the rioters were invited into the Capitol is false. Again, about 140 police officers were assaulted while trying to stop the mob from breaching the Capitol. There were hours-long battles between police and rioters near some entrances. CNN obtained footage from police body-worn cameras showing how dozens of officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with rioters in a desperate effort to keep them out of the building.

Keep sucking that MAGAtard teet. You just keep proving my point.

 

[BirdGang 385]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

They had a focking gallows built out front, were chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and Clownzo was aware of it and said it wasn't a bad idea.

Are you actually trying to deny this? 

There were some police that did bad things that day, and they were investigated. How do you know they weren't in on the whole thing?

But a lot of falsities that MAGAtards have generated about the police actions have been debunked.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/fact-check-capitol-insurrection-january-6-lies/index.html

Keep sucking that MAGAtard teet. You just keep proving my point.

 

You’ve got him this time!!!!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Some insurrection. No guns but a Viking hat.  Lol. 

[jerryskids 6,813]

22 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

They had a focking gallows built out front, were chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and Clownzo was aware of it and said it wasn't a bad idea.

Are you actually trying to deny this? 

There were some police that did bad things that day, and they were investigated. How do you know they weren't in on the whole thing?

But a lot of falsities that MAGAtards have generated about the police actions have been debunked.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/politics/fact-check-capitol-insurrection-january-6-lies/index.html

Keep sucking that MAGAtard teet. You just keep proving my point.

 

Again, quit with the "they were going to hang Pence" crap, you just look foolish.  It doesn't matter if somebody made a halloween decoration out in the protest area.  

Is your answer to my question:  some cops were bad and in on it?  I guess that's a theory.  I presume this was ferreted out in the 1/6 hearings?  We should be seeing indictments on those police officers shortly?  

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Again, quit with the "they were going to hang Pence" crap, you just look foolish.  It doesn't matter if somebody made a halloween decoration out in the protest area.  

Is your answer to my question:  some cops were bad and in on it?  I guess that's a theory.  I presume this was ferreted out in the 1/6 hearings?  We should be seeing indictments on those police officers shortly?  

 

What's your question? Just because a cop scrapes back a barricade doesn't mean it's OK to engage in hand-to-hand combat with police and bash your way into the Capitol.

You think it's OK to do that?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Here come the tax returns!

Yee haw!!!!!!!

[Strike 5,563]

20 hours ago, paulinstl said:

OK, I will do that. give some time please. 

Bump for @paulinstl.  Still need more time? 

[craftsman 1,045]

16 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Here come the tax returns!

Yee haw!!!!!!!

Go war go!!!

Root for the US to spent another trillion to keep the death and destruction going on in Europe while you sit at home here in the US ignoring our own problems and obsessing over an ex president.

Yee haw!! 

[paulinstl 296]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Bump for @paulinstl.  Still need more time? 

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I will try to get that for you before the GOP House investigations of Biden end.

[Strike 5,563]

Just now, paulinstl said:

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I will try to get that for you before the GOP House investigations of Biden end.

'bout what I figured. 

[paulinstl 296]

Just now, Strike said:

'bout what I figured. 

If you really wanted that info, I'm sure that you being so smart, you could get it pretty easily yourself. I know it's just easier to troll.

[Strike 5,563]

Just now, paulinstl said:

If you really wanted that info, I'm sure that you being so smart, you could get it pretty easily yourself. I know it's just easier to troll.

Me trolling?  You're the one who made the claim that the police didn't just open the barricades to let the protestors in, despite there being video of it, based upon the random quotes of just one guy.  I simply asked for a more credible source, like the police themselves.  If anyone is trolling it's you.  I just proved it, and that you're not serious about discussing these issues.  And I did so by very politely asking you for additional supporting evidence of your claim. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Paul in St. Stupid. 

[jerryskids 6,813]

21 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

What's your question? Just because a cop scrapes back a barricade doesn't mean it's OK to engage in hand-to-hand combat with police and bash your way into the Capitol.

You think it's OK to do that?

My question, which I asked about 10 times is why the police in the video casually pull aside the (pretty much token) barrier, turn around, and slowly ambled towards the Capitol with the "violent" crowd behind them?  You are intentionally conflating other sites because you don't have a good answer to my question, other than they were all in on hanging Pence from the dance prop gallows out in the protest area.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

My question, which I asked about 10 times is why the police in the video casually pull aside the (pretty much token) barrier, turn around, and slowly ambled towards the Capitol with the "violent" crowd behind them?  You are intentionally conflating other sites because you don't have a good answer to my question, other than they were all in on hanging Pence from the dance prop gallows out in the protest area.

Because they were helping Clownzo try to take down democracy so he could become the dictator he felt entitled to be. 

Does this somehow make everything else that happened that day OK?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Clownzo is such a steaming piece of .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-takeaways-trumps-lies-062154668.html

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From the “Big Lie” of Trump's November 2020 election night claims of a stolen election to the bloody Jan. 6, 2021, siege, the report spells out the start and finish of the mob attack that played out for the world to see.

It details how Trump and his allies engaged in a “multi-part" scheme to overturn Joe Biden's presidential election victory — first through court challenges, then, when those failed, by compiling slates of electors to challenge Joe Biden's victory.

As Congress prepared to convene Jan. 6 to certify the election, Trump summoned a mob to Washington for his “Stop the Steal” rally at the White House.

"When Donald Trump pointed them toward the Capitol and told them to ‘fight like hell,’ that’s exactly what they did," Thompson wrote. “Donald Trump lit that fire. But in the weeks beforehand, the kindling he ultimately ignited was amassed in plain sight.”

 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Clownzo is such a steaming piece of .

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-takeaways-trumps-lies-062154668.html

 

I agree. Biden is a piece of crap. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

Now they have the proof. Should be an interesting trial. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Clownzo claims clairvoyance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-himself-clairvoyant-critics-031427940.html

[Raven Fan 362]

22 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Clownzo claims clairvoyance.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-himself-clairvoyant-critics-031427940.html

He might be the dumbest person in America.  His only competition is the cultist on this board, those who attend his rallies, and those who sink their boats in a "parade" for him.

LMFAO

[Hardcore troubadour 15,472]

I’d say Trump was a pretty good president. It’s not like he was Bush 43 or anything, the worst. Better than Obama.