Andrew Tate and his brother have been arrested in Romania on human sex-trafficking allegations

[Djgb13 2,339]

30 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why would anyone feel the need to defend this guy?

Honestly? I could care less about the actual guy. I’m more pissed cause of the blatant corruption going on. Literally, hes said they were gonna come for him for years. You think someone who KNOWS the government is trying to shut him down along with being insanely rich, popular, good looking, etc. is going to be doing blatantly obvious things like human trafficking or kidnapping??? Doesn’t make sense at all 

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

What exactly are the charges against him?  This sounds more like kidnapping or something than human trafficking

The allegations are that he forced women do to these pron webcams.  So holding against their will = kidnapping, forcing them to do sex work = human trafficking, by definition.

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6 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Honestly? I could care less about the actual guy....insanely rich, popular, good looking...

Couldn't care less about him

Digby wants to be one of his webcam girls.

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4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Couldn't care less about him

Digby wants to be one of his webcam girls.

Tilt 

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5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

The allegations are that he forced women do to these pron webcams.  So holding against their will = kidnapping, forcing them to do sex work = human trafficking, by definition.

And yet they have video evidence that disputes that. Hmmm wonder why you don’t believe that evidence? #programmed

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1 minute ago, Djgb13 said:

And yet they have video evidence that disputes that. Hmmm wonder why you don’t believe that evidence? #programmed

Let's try this again.  I want to see if you will actually use some critical thinking an examine facts, or if you're just another piece of sh1t troll.

Your "video evidence", who is the girl that is talking?  She never identifies herself.  She mentions "Batrice", no idea who this is either.  She also talks about the April investigation.

Trying to piece this together, it's possible that these women were interviewed back in April and never alleged anything against Tate.

Fast forward to end of this year, he was detained based on different allegations.  We have no idea if it's these women or not, but likely points to not.

Here is another video that is making the rounds on twitter, saying this women is one of the victims but a video shows Tate telling her to leave, which someone means that he could never doing anything wrong with her.

Her name is allegedly Carla Howe.  She tells a story of how she was "almost" a victim.  Is it true or not?  Who knows.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-carla-howe-model-claims-andrew-tate-attempted-lure-romania-controlling-aggressive-messages

This article actually goes into some detail in the investigation.

The US embassy in Bucharest raised concerns regarding an American woman being held in the city against her will. The alarm prompted Romanian investigators to start probing into Andrew Tate. The said woman is aged 22 and her name hasn’t been disclosed for legal reasons. She somehow managed to get to her mobile and called her boyfriend in the US, who then alerted the embassy in Bucharest.

Is this true?  No idea.  But it's fair to assume that this American woman is not the woman that is speaking in the video you posted, wouldn't you agree?  The woman in the video has a thick accent.

So this is my tought process to try and make sense of this.  I will tell you one thing, that this dude is a piece of sh1t, and the women that hang around them, self defined social influencers, probably pieces of sh1t too.  This whole world of social influencing, sex webcams, etc, it's all crazy sh1t, and you can't really trust anyone here.  It's up to the authorities to piece it all together.

If we're to believe that this American woman was the one that brought it all down, then let's hear more about her.  I'm sure we will in time.

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If anything this has prompted me to have talk to my kids about this, make sure my girls never fall for this sh1t, and make sure my son never follows pieces of sh1t like Tate.

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4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Let's try this again.  I want to see if you will actually use some critical thinking an examine facts, or if you're just another piece of sh1t troll.

Your "video evidence", who is the girl that is talking?  She never identifies herself.  She mentions "Batrice", no idea who this is either.  She also talks about the April investigation.

Trying to piece this together, it's possible that these women were interviewed back in April and never alleged anything against Tate.

Fast forward to end of this year, he was detained based on different allegations.  We have no idea if it's these women or not, but likely points to not.

Here is another video that is making the rounds on twitter, saying this women is one of the victims but a video shows Tate telling her to leave, which someone means that he could never doing anything wrong with her.

Her name is allegedly Carla Howe.  She tells a story of how she was "almost" a victim.  Is it true or not?  Who knows.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-carla-howe-model-claims-andrew-tate-attempted-lure-romania-controlling-aggressive-messages

This article actually goes into some detail in the investigation.

The US embassy in Bucharest raised concerns regarding an American woman being held in the city against her will. The alarm prompted Romanian investigators to start probing into Andrew Tate. The said woman is aged 22 and her name hasn’t been disclosed for legal reasons. She somehow managed to get to her mobile and called her boyfriend in the US, who then alerted the embassy in Bucharest.

Is this true?  No idea.  But it's fair to assume that this American woman is not the woman that is speaking in the video you posted, wouldn't you agree?  The woman in the video has a thick accent.

So this is my tought process to try and make sense of this.  I will tell you one thing, that this dude is a piece of sh1t, and the women that hang around them, self defined social influencers, probably pieces of sh1t too.  This whole world of social influencing, sex webcams, etc, it's all crazy sh1t, and you can't really trust anyone here.  It's up to the authorities to piece it all together.

If we're to believe that this American woman was the one that brought it all down, then let's hear more about her.  I'm sure we will in time.

You do realize they also have video evidence of that same girl leaving his house and returning with pizza right? Seems to me like “we couldn’t leave” is all bullsh1t. 

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1 minute ago, Djgb13 said:

You do realize they also have video evidence of that same girl leaving his house and returning with pizza right? Seems to me like “we couldn’t leave” is all bullsh1t. 

The American girl?

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38 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Honestly? I could care less about the actual guy. I’m more pissed cause of the blatant corruption going on. Literally, hes said they were gonna come for him for years. You think someone who KNOWS the government is trying to shut him down along with being insanely rich, popular, good looking, etc. is going to be doing blatantly obvious things like human trafficking or kidnapping??? Doesn’t make sense at all 

Why do you care about the corruption of some other country and how they are handling this?

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3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

The American girl?

Yes. That girl ring girl is the one. 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why do you care about the corruption of some other country and how they are handling this?

Because it’s not just a foreign government. It’s our government cause they do not like him telling guys not to trust them. His spoken out against the American gov and the politicians as well as the celebrities. He pissed ALOT of ppl off. 
 

Now if he’s guilty? He 100% deserves to rot. I’ll admit I’m wrong. However, I truly do not believe that is the case. It’s not like the government wouldn’t do that cause they’ve done it COUNTLESS times to ppl

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Just now, Djgb13 said:

Yes. That girl ring girl is the one. 

Not it's not.  That girls name is Carla Howe, and she was quoted in the article I posted.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-carla-howe-model-claims-andrew-tate-attempted-lure-romania-controlling-aggressive-messages

“I had a lucky escape. I thought I would give him a chance and was tempted to have a relationship with him.”

However, Tate’s arrest made her think that if she had given in to his persistence, it could have ended terribly for her. Howe added:

“I’d probably have ended up not leaving the house ever.”

One of Carla Howe’s friends said that Tate told the former that she could not talk to other men or even go to a party. He even warned her:

“You better not cheat on me.”

Reportedly, Tate also said things to Howe like:

“You need to obey me. I’m your man.”
Carla Howe and Andrew Tate finally met in Dubai for the first time in December 2022 when the former flew out to the Middle-Eastern country for a match between Deji Olatunji and Floyd Mayweather where she acted as a ring girl.

Howe’s birthplace is Berkshire, United Kingdom. She later lived in Los Angeles for 10 years when she moved into the Playboy mansion owned by American publisher Hugh Hefner in 2011.

This is a British woman who decided against having a relationship with Tate.

So, different girl, make sense?

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2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Not it's not.  That girls name is Carla Howe, and she was quoted in the article I posted.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-carla-howe-model-claims-andrew-tate-attempted-lure-romania-controlling-aggressive-messages

“I had a lucky escape. I thought I would give him a chance and was tempted to have a relationship with him.”

However, Tate’s arrest made her think that if she had given in to his persistence, it could have ended terribly for her. Howe added:

“I’d probably have ended up not leaving the house ever.”

One of Carla Howe’s friends said that Tate told the former that she could not talk to other men or even go to a party. He even warned her:

“You better not cheat on me.”

Reportedly, Tate also said things to Howe like:

“You need to obey me. I’m your man.”
Carla Howe and Andrew Tate finally met in Dubai for the first time in December 2022 when the former flew out to the Middle-Eastern country for a match between Deji Olatunji and Floyd Mayweather where she acted as a ring girl.

Howe’s birthplace is Berkshire, United Kingdom. She later lived in Los Angeles for 10 years when she moved into the Playboy mansion owned by American publisher Hugh Hefner in 2011.

This is a British woman who decided against having a relationship with Tate.

So, different girl, make sense?

No they have that girl on camera. THAT girl. It’s been confirmed. Cause she also was cheating on her bf and got caught but said he “kidnapped her”. They literally have video evidence against her 

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3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

No they have that girl on camera. THAT girl. It’s been confirmed. Cause she also was cheating on her bf and got caught but said he “kidnapped her”. They literally have video evidence against her 

They have video evidence of the girl alleging she was kidnapped?  Can you share?  What's her name?

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Here is a link where someone claims that Tate told them he had sex with a 16 year old girl, and that he steals the girls passports

https://www.the-sun.com/news/7070725/tate-sex-teen-stealing-cam-girls-passports/

The witness, who wishes to remain anonymous for their own safety, is a former associate of the pair and spent several months in Bucharest with them in 2020. 

During this time, Andrew took the witness on a tour and described his vile business model.

In an exclusive interview, the witness told The Sun: “He had a few properties where he put the women up to camgirl. To paraphrase he [Tate] told me: ‘I go over there, take them out in the cars to some nice spots, tell them they can live in the mansion if they do ‘cam’, then once they’re here, I take their passports.

“He preferred Moldovan girls as they were poor and good-looking.”

Who knows if it's true, but another witness supporting Tate is a piece of sh1t

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10 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

They have video evidence of the girl alleging she was kidnapped?  Can you share?  What's her name?

They have video of her leaving his house and returning with pizza. I’ve said this countless times. THIS is the girl 

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6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Here is a link where someone claims that Tate told them he had sex with a 16 year old girl, and that he steals the girls passports

https://www.the-sun.com/news/7070725/tate-sex-teen-stealing-cam-girls-passports/

The witness, who wishes to remain anonymous for their own safety, is a former associate of the pair and spent several months in Bucharest with them in 2020. 

During this time, Andrew took the witness on a tour and described his vile business model.

In an exclusive interview, the witness told The Sun: “He had a few properties where he put the women up to camgirl. To paraphrase he [Tate] told me: ‘I go over there, take them out in the cars to some nice spots, tell them they can live in the mansion if they do ‘cam’, then once they’re here, I take their passports.

“He preferred Moldovan girls as they were poor and good-looking.”

Who knows if it's true, but another witness supporting Tate is a piece of sh1t

Sounds like BS to me. Anybody can say anything. “Oh yea he told me he ritually killed girls after having sex with them”. Don’t believe stuff like that cause that’s Smear Campaign 101

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4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

They have video of her leaving his house and returning with pizza. I’ve said this countless times. THIS is the girl 

Can you share?

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3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Sounds like BS to me. Anybody can say anything. “Oh yea he told me he ritually killed girls after having sex with them”. Don’t believe stuff like that cause that’s Smear Campaign 101

Agreed, and anybody can also say that no one was held against their will, correct?

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1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

I had no idea, but apparently this guy is like a cult leader.  Countless young men are under this guys spell.  I had never heard of this guy before this thread was posted, but I started reading about him, listening to podcasts, this dude is an absolute piece of sh1t, and he's got so many followers that bought into his BS that love him and defend him.  I feel sorry for these guys and I sincerely hope they find some real role models and purpose in their lives to replace this sh1tbag.

... and then he started popping up everywhere.  

 

@Djgb13  you don't find it highly plausible that he may have paid off the girls you are referencing... the ones who idolize him?

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Here is Tate describing how to run a webcam business and take advantage of and control stupid girls.

 

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1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

... and then he started popping up everywhere.  

 

@Djgb13  you don't find it highly plausible that he may have paid off the girls you are referencing... the ones who idolize him?

It’s plausible but I’ve also seen where the media tried paying his former exs to say bad stuff about him but they refused and even told him they were trying to pay them off. As I said, if he’s guilty I’m all behind him rotting in jail. I just don’t see it happening when the guy literally had girls throwing themselves at him.

What astounds me even more is NOW ppl care about human trafficking. Yet these same ppl don’t care that we have PROOF there was an island that celebrities visited to have sex with underage girls. This has been proven. We have flight logs. We have the book. But no one besides the right is pushing for them to releases the list and go after those people. 

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2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Here is Tate describing how to run a webcam business and take advantage of and control stupid girls.

 

Um…that’s how businesses work. You make money, you give the company all the money, then they pay you. What’s the problem here? The girls themselves were able to leave so let’s stop that BS. For every video you post about that I can post 100 other ones that tell a different story. But I know you won’t ever watch them. I’ve posted plenty yet you have yet to watch even one  

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1 minute ago, Djgb13 said:

Um…that’s how businesses work. You make money, you give the company all the money, then they pay you. What’s the problem here? The girls themselves were able to leave so let’s stop that BS. For every video you post about that I can post 100 other ones that tell a different story. But I know you won’t ever watch them. I’ve posted plenty yet you have yet to watch even one  

If you ever post that video of the American girl who alleges she was a hostage, of her getting pizza, I will watch it.

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4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

It’s plausible but I’ve also seen where the media tried paying his former exs to say bad stuff about him but they refused and even told him they were trying to pay them off. As I said, if he’s guilty I’m all behind him rotting in jail. I just don’t see it happening when the guy literally had girls throwing themselves at him.

Someone not talking about it does not mean it did not happen.

What astounds me even more is NOW ppl care about human trafficking. Yet these same ppl don’t care that we have PROOF there was an island that celebrities visited to have sex with underage girls. This has been proven. We have flight logs. We have the book. But no one besides the right is pushing for them to releases the list and go after those people. 

I don't believe I have commented on this topic at all.  Open the books and let them all fry.  If i were a betting man, I would play that there were both red an blue guests that visited.

 

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3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

If you ever post that video of the American girl who alleges she was a hostage, of her getting pizza, I will watch it.

Go look at that interview with Piers Morgan. Problem with Tate, he’s like trump with his mouth. Says Sh1t that makes sense however the way he says it pisses people off to no end 

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4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Um…that’s how businesses work. You make money, you give the company all the money, then they pay you. What’s the problem here?

No that's not how businesses work.  You're a doctor/baseball player/psychiatrist, so you're unaware of how businesses work.  What Tate is describing is called fraud, and it's illegal.

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3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Go look at that interview with Piers Morgan. Problem with Tate, he’s like trump with his mouth. Says Sh1t that makes sense however the way he says it pisses people off to no end 

It makes sense that women are lazy, stupid and don't understand taxes?

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5 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Go look at that interview with Piers Morgan. Problem with Tate, he’s like trump with his mouth. Says Sh1t that makes sense however the way he says it pisses people off to no end 

Here's the interview with Piers Morgan: 

 

It's 75 minutes long.  I did not watch the whole thing.  I skimmed it looking for surveillance video and didnt' find anything.  This video is from October.  Is this the video that has video evidence of the alleged victim leaving the house?  Kinda weird that they would show a video of a girl leaving his house 3 months before he alleges to be a victim.

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15 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

It makes sense that women are lazy, stupid and don't understand taxes?

Bro that IS how businesses work. If you make money at your job what do you do with the money at the end of the day? Do you keep it? No you don’t. You give it to the company. Exactly. Like. Here. You think the girls should keep the money when it’s HIS business? They came to HIM. For HIS company. They wouldn’t get that much money on their own. Hence, why they’re with him. So why would they keep all that money and leave the company with none or barely any? You talk about taxes, well what you’re suggesting is TAX FRAUD

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14 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Here's the interview with Piers Morgan: 

 

It's 75 minutes long.  I did not watch the whole thing.  I skimmed it looking for surveillance video and didnt' find anything.  This video is from October.  Is this the video that has video evidence of the alleged victim leaving the house?  Kinda weird that they would show a video of a girl leaving his house 3 months before he alleges to be a victim.

Ok we are done. I don’t have time to sit here all day on vacation arguing with you. You won’t ever get it. You won’t ever believe it. When he comes out of jail and nothing happens to him you’ll say “oh he paid people off”. Like Trump right? All that stuff done to him yet nothing came about from anything the left has done 

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4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

Ok we are done. I don’t have time to sit here all day on vacation arguing with you. You won’t ever get it. You won’t ever believe it. When he comes out of jail and nothing happens to him you’ll say “oh he paid people off”. Like Trump right? All that stuff done to him yet nothing came about from anything the left has done 

Ok, so no video of the victim leaving the house.

Thanks for playing digby, enjoy your vacation, and your L

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Digby really feels passionate about defending this rapist / sex trafficker. Odd position for a guy who randomly accuses people of pedophilia and grooming. 

Blink twice if you’re in distress, Mrs. Digby!  

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Guy seems like a pretty smart, enthusiastic, creative and passionate guy.  Shame he grew up in a era in which relentless self promotion is seen as a good thing.  He could have probably been a real asset to humanity...instead, he's just a celebrity.  

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Vice has an Andrew tate doc coming out tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW-ki67jRwU

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17 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Vice has an Andrew tate doc coming out tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW-ki67jRwU

Vice. Lol. How much money has Soros given them now? 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Vice. Lol. How much money has Soros given them now? 

As soon as McRapey said Vice I knew he was full of Sh1t. Might as well ask Biden about him

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DIICOT says it has identified six victims in the human trafficking case who were subjected to “acts of physical violence and mental coercion” and were sexually exploited by the members of the alleged crime group.

 

The agency said victims were lured by pretenses of love, and later intimidated, kept under surveillance and subjected to other control tactics while being coerced into performing in pornography that was intended to make money for their alleged persecutors

The Associated Press: Romania searches 7 homes in case of influencer Andrew Tate.

https://apnews.com/article/bucharest-romania-crime-organized-human-trafficking-6530a96acad0445af5d6dc1681ab97ad

Investigation continues.

Everything he's accused of he already admitted he does and teaches at his university 

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21 hours ago, Djgb13 said:

Honestly? I could care less about the actual guy. I’m more pissed cause of the blatant corruption going on. Literally, hes said they were gonna come for him for years. You think someone who KNOWS the government is trying to shut him down along with being insanely rich, popular, good looking, etc. is going to be doing blatantly obvious things like human trafficking or kidnapping??? Doesn’t make sense at all 

But enough about Jeffrey Epstein.....