Jalen Hurts: 5 years, $255M

[GutterBoy 2,898]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So he had an outlier year. That makes 3 in the other four years. Yeah, you made a great point. Wow. 

Let's take a look at those years.

2018, his rookie year, we could throw this out, but still, he only lost 1 game he started, to Patrick Mahomes, no comeback there.  He did have one gw winning drive though, so let's call it 1-1

2019, MVP season, 2 comebacks/gw drives, 2 losses (one again to Mahomes), 13 wins.  So he was 2-2 here.

2020, 1 comeback, and 4 losses (another to Mahomes), so you can say this was a down year maybe.  Still he won 11 games, so really hard to knock him for not coming back in 4 games when you win 11.

2021, 4 comeback wins, second most in the league, can't knock him here.

2022, 8-4, 2 of those 8 were comeback/gw.  Again this is not bad but this would be his worst season due to injury

This is certainly not the record of a guy that chokes in the 4th quarter.  Also his next gen stats support this.

You should really stop talking football.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

53 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He had 4 in 2021, ranking him #2: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=JackLa00

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2950676-ranking-the-nfls-5-most-clutch-quarterbacks-this-season

He had a bad season last year with injuries.

Keep going, you're doing great.

Wut? 

@Hardcore troubadour and @listen2me 23 are eating you alive!  You're not only on the receiving end of a massive curb-stomping, but you're also getting it from two different posters at the same time.  I know you like abuse because you're into the S&M and pedo shiat, but even you must have a limit to the amount of beatdowns you can take.

Good Lord you're getting your @ss handed to you bigly! 

However, I do like your added touch of being the biggest racist POS in this forum but calling others "racist", though.  I mean, the irony is so thick with you that you could cut it with a knife. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,084]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Let's take a look at those years.

2018, his rookie year, we could throw this out, but still, he only lost 1 game he started, to Patrick Mahomes, no comeback there.  He did have one gw winning drive though, so let's call it 1-1

2019, MVP season, 2 comebacks/gw drives, 2 losses (one again to Mahomes), 13 wins.  So he was 2-2 here.

2020, 1 comeback, and 4 losses (another to Mahomes), so you can say this was a down year maybe.  Still he won 11 games, so really hard to knock him for not coming back in 4 games when you win 11.

2021, 4 comeback wins, second most in the league, can't knock him here.

2022, 8-4, 2 of those 8 were comeback/gw.  Again this is not bad but this would be his worst season due to injury

This is certainly not the record of a guy that chokes in the 4th quarter.  Also his next gen stats support this.

You should really stop talking football.

Again, you made my point. Thanks. Also, availability is the most important of all the bilitys. Parcells said that. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Wut? 

@Hardcore troubadour and @listen2me 23 are eating you alive!  You're not only on the receiving end of a massive curb-stomping, but you're also getting it from two different posters at the same time.  I know you like abuse because you're into the S&M and pedo shiat, but even you must have a limit to the amount of beatdowns you can take.

Good Lord you're getting your @ss handed to you bigly!

You're embarrassing yourself.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

33 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You're embarrassing yourself.

Negative.  We're embarrassing you - but that happens on an hourly basis.  Curb-stomping you is so easy that a caveman could do it.

Showing others what a true POS you are is something everyone should aspire too.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,084]

34 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You're embarrassing yourself.

Just want to say, there was a discussion about football and like the  c u next Tuesday that you are, you had to start calling people racist, mall rat. 

[Baker Boy 1,693]

Lamar has missed five games in each of the last two seasons. He is in the downward spiral that comes with most running quarterbacks. He has passed for over 3000 yards only once in his career (3100). I would pass on paying this guy big money.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

23 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Lamar has missed five games in each of the last two seasons. He is in the downward spiral that comes with most running quarterbacks. He has passed for over 3000 yards only once in his career (3100). I would pass on paying this guy big money.

That's fair.

To say he can't pass is asinine.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,084]

On 4/17/2023 at 12:41 PM, GutterBoy said:

Inevitable, and this will surely be the demise of the team.  We'll see if he's able to carry the team once the talent around him diminishes.

Mush 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

On 4/18/2023 at 1:05 PM, GutterBoy said:

That's fair.

To say he can't pass is asinine.

Well, if by "pass" you mean throw the ball forward, than sure, he can do that.  Just like I can.  Even a noodle arm like yourself could do that.  However, is he good at it?  I'd say he's average at best.  Running QBs run because they're not very good passers.  In fact, he even needs assistance to get over the goal line so he's not even good at that.  To them, passing supplements the running game as opposed to how it should be - running to supplement the passing game.

Too many GMs and teams have been wowed by short-term running QBs instead of getting a good passer who will be around a long time.

[thegeneral 3,037]

I have no dog in this fight but the Eagles are one of the best run organizations going. Hurts is a stud, their GM is a beast, they have been making all the right moves. To say otherwise is pretty dumb.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

"studs" don't run when they can throw.  "studs" don't need assistance getting over the goal line.  To say otherwise is pretty dumb.

[Ron_Artest 1,183]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mush 

Imagine spending your Saturday afternoon reading my posts from years ago.  Sad pathetic obsessed troll.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,084]

On 4/18/2023 at 1:29 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just want to say, there was a discussion about football and like the  c u next Tuesday that you are, you had to start calling people racist, mall rat. 

Gutterboy the white hero. 

[Ron_Artest 1,183]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I have no dog in this fight but the Eagles are one of the best run organizations going. Hurts is a stud, their GM is a beast, they have been making all the right moves. To say otherwise is pretty dumb.

Hurts is a super bowl MVP.  He proved me wrong.  Roseman has figured out how to game the cap.  I still think they could be screwed in a few years but he's proved me wrong so far too.

I really hate the eagles

[Maximum Overkill 1,825]

26 years old, 2 Superbowl appearances, 1 Superbowl win and a Superbowl MVP. 

DON'T EVER COMPARE JALEN HURTS TO LAMAR JACKSON. Start talking Hall of Fame for Hurts because it's happening 

Maybe someday Lamar can win a game. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,084]

Just remember , when Gutterboy criticizes a black qb it’s valid. When others do it it’s racist. 

[thegeneral 3,037]

55 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"studs" don't run when they can throw.  "studs" don't need assistance getting over the goal line.  To say otherwise is pretty dumb.

Studs win. They are 46-20 when he starts.

He’s played like a stud in both Super Bowls and in their Super Bowl runs.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Studs win. They are 46-20 when he starts.

He’s played like a stud in both Super Bowls and in their Super Bowl runs.

Thanks to Saquon!!  To think otherwise is pretty dumb.

[thegeneral 3,037]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Thanks to Saquon!!  To think otherwise is pretty dumb.

MVP says otherwise. He outplayed Mahomes twice now. You are crazy and dumb!

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

MVP says otherwise. He outplayed Mahomes twice now. You are crazy and dumb!

Yeah, saquon was robbed.  To think otherwise is dumb.

[thegeneral 3,037]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yeah, saquon was robbed.  To think otherwise is dumb.

And I thought your judgement of politics were bad!

[Maximum Overkill 1,825]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

And I thought your judgement of politics were bad!

Josh Allen won the MVP. He wasn't even the best statistical QB last season and lost another Championship game against a crap Chiefs team. 

Saquon breaks the NfL record for yardage in a single season, wins a Superbowl and??? 

Who was more valuable? 

[thegeneral 3,037]

22 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Josh Allen won the MVP. He wasn't even the best statistical QB last season and lost another Championship game against a crap Chiefs team. 

Saquon breaks the NfL record for yardage in a single season, wins a Superbowl and??? 

Who was more valuable? 

It almost always starts with the QB. If we are being honest the defense had as much in the win as Hurts or Saquon. The argument is if Hurts is a stud. He absolutely is, the Eagles are the titts of the NFL at the moment. They got so good that the other teams are crying to change the rules to stop the guy.

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,825]

Just now, thegeneral said:

almost always starts with the QB

Understood but Allen wasn't the best or most valuable QB last season from a winning standpoint or statistically.  He really wasn't that great.  

[thegeneral 3,037]

6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Understood but Allen wasn't the best or most valuable QB last season from a winning standpoint or statistically.  He really wasn't that great.  

He was in the discussion. Season MVP’s do come down to story lines many times as it’s played out over months, it was his turn.

Hurts tho is absolutely a beast, gamer, stud, etc.

[MDC 7,194]

On 4/17/2023 at 12:13 PM, MDC said:

Link

Great deal. He’s 300% better than Danny Dimes and only making 25% more.  

Nailed it.  

[MDC 7,194]

On 4/17/2023 at 12:41 PM, GutterBoy said:

Inevitable, and this will surely be the demise of the team.  We'll see if he's able to carry the team once the talent around him diminishes.

 

[MDC 7,194]

On 4/17/2023 at 4:39 PM, Reality said:

Beginning of the end, that's just how these things go when you pay that much of the pie to average talent.

I like Hurts but, not for that much $$.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

22 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He was in the discussion. Season MVP’s do come down to story lines many times as it’s played out over months, it was his turn.

Hurts tho is absolutely a beast, gamer, stud, etc.

Can't be a gamer, a beast when you need people to assist you over the goal line. Or always call your number to run.   To think otherwise is dumb.

[thegeneral 3,037]

11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Can't be a gamer, a beast when you need people to assist you over the goal line. Or always call your number to run.   To think otherwise is dumb.

Yeah it’s easy, everyone does it! They are changing the rules like little babies because they can’t stop it. Dude is an absolute unit.. He must have hurt your team badly

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,929]

38 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Yeah it’s easy, everyone does it! They are changing the rules like little babies because they can’t stop it. Dude is an absolute unit.. He must have hurt your team badly

You the official Hurts Hype Man?   Do you owe him money or something?   

All I'm saying is that when you need assistance to get over the goal line or run when you can throw, then "beast" doesn't really come into play.  To think otherwise is dumb.

And for a guy who insists he has no horse in this race, you sure are zealously sucking that horses c@ck. 

[thegeneral 3,037]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You the official Hurts Hype Man? 

Do you owe him money or something?  All I'm saying is that when you need assistance to get over the goal line or run when you can throw, then "beast" doesn't really come into play.  To think otherwise is dumb.

Just recognizing a beast. It’s dumb not to recognize this. Guy is so good he doesn’t have to throw. Unique weapon, leading the best team in the league. Wish the Hawks had him, looks like they are trying a version out with Milroe!

The push tush didn’t work so well for Allen 

[MDC 7,194]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Can't be a gamer, a beast when you need people to assist you over the goal line. Or always call your number to run.   To think otherwise is dumb.

This guy is right: Hurts is only good because the Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles have the best OL, RB, WR duo, defense, GM, coach, and fans in football.