🇺🇸Father Trump Talk-🚨The Official Thread of the Week Magaverse🚨 👀 the Donald/Elon beef has gone nuclear

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How come he didn’t wreck it last time like you cucks said he would? 

Because he had guardrails you idiot. McMasters, Kelly, Mattis, Milley, all protecting the nation. All fired for their efforts. 
 

Also I forgot I’m not responding to your awfulness any longer. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because he had guardrails you idiot. McMasters, Kelly, Mattis, Milley, all protecting the nation. All fired for their efforts. 
 

Also I forgot I’m not responding to your awfulness any longer. 

Was it the cuck comment that did it? Also, before you go, seeing as you are so happy we are letting suffering migrants into the country, many of the cites overrun by them are asking citizens to take some into their homes.  Will you step up to help these poor people? I’m sure you have the room.  

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[thegeneral 3,065]

The big reveal of “irrefutable proof” is now not going to happen.

Then he’s going to puss out on the debates.

What a betch! 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,764]

54 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

I know BH is a big fan but I’m not. I don’t want anyone compromised by the WEF which she is

Great point.  I will only support a candidate that makes Klaus Schwab and his ilk go away. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Any recommendations for fed up patriots if we cannot have Trump?

 

In this cycle? The ideal right now is Ramaswamy. He's disruptive. The Military Industrial Complex will despise him, but that's not such a bad thing. He's not a warhawk. He would push to fix K-12 education, first and foremost, the only candidate on both sides who would actually attempt it and likely the only one who could pull it off. 

Barring that,  in the most practical alternative, DeSantis and Nikki Haley. Neither is all that interesting, but "boring" isn't the worst thing in the world given the past two administrations of the DNC's personal human houseplant and what's left of Trump's ego, plus that nimrod Obama and that meathead in W Bush. Haley has enough foreign policy experience and common sense to handle China. Which matters more and more every day. Haley absorbed A LOT of big ticket donors with the expectation that she'd be the top VPOTUS candidate for basically everyone. 

The RNC is intentionally seasoning Wesley Hunt out of Texas for the long term. I don't see it with him. Not the electability angle ( I don't think that is there as well) but he's not someone who can do real policy.  He hits a checklist and he's "spending time" with Ronna McDaniel, so that explains quite a bit. He has some hawkish undertones to him. He wouldn't be terrible, he just wouldn't be good. 

The best long term bet for functional governance would be physician/astronaut/Navy SEAL Jonny Kim. He hits the entire checklist. He's basically the kind of political candidate with the real life bonafides you could only create in a fiction novel. His "narrative" is pretty compelling and his success rate is phenomenal. I don't think he can be controlled, so the DNC will covet him but pass. The GOP shouldn't make that mistake. Watch a few interviews with him, the subtext and nuance that he gives bodes well for handling conflict and other people. He can be a political rising star if he choose that path. 

For the bizarre "celebrity" angle, then Denzel Washington. He'd win. And he'd massacre all comers in the press. He's smart enough to know when to hire someone smarter to work for him and get out of their way, which is basically all you can ask from a Hollywood stalwart. He's also hard line Conservative, but won't say so in the press. He'd take the entire black vote, appeal to young voters, generate massive fundraising and Hollywood would have to stay on the sidelines, killing off Jeffrey Katzenberg's money printing machine for the DNC, which is a huge advantage for Republicans. 

It's a good question, thanks for asking. Good to still see you here. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,764]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Was it the cuck comment that did it? Also, before you go, seeing as you are so happy we are letting suffering migrants into the country, many of the cites overrun by them are asking citizens to take some into their homes.  Will you step up to help these poor people? I’m sure you have the room.  

Guardrails?  Father Trump won’t need guardrails.  If the revenge tour doesn’t start full force on day one, there will be many disappointed patriots.  We want our pound (or ton) of flesh.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,764]

28 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

Kind of pales to secret service staying in the same hotel as the President?

[HellToupee 1,649]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Well it looks like nothing will stop you idiots (I use that term with love) from nominating this guy again. So it’s going to be up to us Democrats and independents to save the country, once again, from your foolishness. So be it. Once he’s crushed (again) maybe you guys will finally wake the hell up. 

Foking idiots like you have the country in the chitter with the corrupt pedo president you elected 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, RogerDodger said:

Noem is going to be VP.  Bank on it.  

 

Haley has the donors. 

Trump has a large financial warchest, but it's not enough for a general election. When the primaries hit, if this splits into a more even race with Ramaswamy or DeSantis, that just makes the money angle even harder for him. 

The Big Cheeto basically ran out of money in both 2016 and 2020 at the end of his campaigns. In 2016, he had Mark Burnett running his optics, and Kellyanne Conway as a strategist is actually a rare genius in the world of professional politics. Steve Bannon, for all his flaws and corruption and stupidity, is actually an extremely effective logistics guy for a campaign. Trump has NONE of those key elements on his side in 2024. And while lots of people despise Biden, the critical suburban women voter shifts might not work in his favor. 

Noem doesn't bring in big ticket donors. Nikki Haley does. Haley is the textbook VPOTUS candidate. I'm not saying Trump will offer it to her ( but he should, based on practical political strategy) 

By "losing" 2020, there was ZERO "return on investment" for the many big donors who bet on Trump in 2016 and won out and then doubled down again. They spent a lot and got nothing for it in 2020. That's stink that doesn't wash off. Just more controversy and hardship being around Trump's toxicity. The "Stop The Steal" conflicts are also optics poison for donors. 

If it's Trump vs Biden 2.0, odds are, that Trump would lose the 2024 general election. I know that seems incomprehensible that Biden/Harris could push another four years, but the pathway will be against Trump. If he appears to be too strong, Team Blue will try to cheat him out of the election. If he survives that, the corporate establishment will attempt to assassinate him. If he manages to skirt that, he'll face more lawsuits, hearings, trials, etc, etc, until it just breaks this country in half. Beyond that, Trump back in the White House will mean the DNC will use it's ancillary black bag outfits to make sure there is endless looting, rioting and burning in major cities. Team Blue just doesn't give a damn at this point, they'll watch this entire country burn rather than see Trump hold office again. 

The RNC shifting some of the debate thresholds around were built to limit Ramaswamy. If he gets to the debate stage and holds the ground he's carrying now ( he's running as close to a perfect campaign given his situation, as of today) , he can take the primary. The polling shows heavy Trump, but the polling industry is busted. 

Nikki Haley hits the entire checklist. Minority woman. Solid track record in politics. Foreign policy experience. Still attractive. Husband is rank and file military. No major scandals. Can handle the press. Has big donors in her pocket. Will appeal to suburban women voters and the Asian vote. Is a mother and raising her own biological children ( it actually matters that Kamala Harris raised white children from a white husband, also Doug Emhoff is going to get run through the rails for every DLA Piper scandal he was involved with and it will be good sized hits against them both) 

Of course, never underestimate Trump's ability to make things harder than it has to be. He's great at attacking the "establishment", but he's also a narcissist and an imbecile. 

All he had to do in 2016 was shut up and let Kellyanne Conway run the country. She would have kicked Kushner and Manafort out. And she would have done a good job with basic functional governance. 

Trump did not win 2016 as much as Hillary Clinton lost in spectacular fashion and Conway was a pure miracle worker. She'll NEVER get the credit she deserves simply because of the Trump "legacy" poisons everyone around him. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

Hey BH:  No one reads your sermons. Get to the point and get out.  HTH. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

14 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

MAGAturds are becoming unhinged as the legal walls close in on their beloved T-pump.

How much pump could a T-pump pump if a T-pump could pump pump.

He's pumping his baloney up MAGAturd rumps.

 

^ 

This illustrates the major problem with Trump. This shouldn't be acceptable political discourse in the actual industry. But it's been normalized. There's no value in that, but Trump eggs it on, because it makes it all about him again. Trump has been persecuted beyond all reasonable measure at times. But he doesn't help himself very much out there. He takes many bad situations and makes them worse. He enables low value people like Pimpadeaux and allows them to have a platform. That doesn't help America. 

Here's the big thing - Will Trump fix K-12 education in his country? 

Because that's where many of the solutions start period. I don't see Trump wanting to take on the teachers unions. That's a huge fight and it does nothing for his own ego and narcissism. But it's the most important fight that NEEDS TO HAPPEN to save this entire country and it's future. 

ANY politician who won't fix K-12 needs to go. So that wipes out every last Democrat. Since Team Blue controls Big Education, they aren't rocking that boat.  Ramaswamy will actually roll on the attack and attempt to clean up K-12. Even if it costs him. Because if he drags out a rare win, it's his only chance at reelection. 

Some of you despise Trump. But you won't hate him more than you love your own children. Or future grandchildren. K-12 needs to be fixed. I don't care who does it, but it's the major litmus test that truly matters right now in this country. Team Blue won't do it. They have the levers now and won't do it. Look at how badly they screwed up the pandemic and public schools. They ruined millions of children for their own greed and incompetence. 

People who spend all their time spitting on Trump instead of looking at how to fix Big Education, particularly K-12, are essentially getting on their knees and begging for their children and grandchildren to inherit a country built on ashes. Is TDS worth the future of your kids? Many unhinged zealots think so. 

A lot of the activist radical leftists here want Trump gone because they have endless TDS and are just low information voters and low character people in general. Only a zealot would be willing to watch the entire country burn with their children still inside of it. 

I want Trump gone because he doesn't help fix this country for the future. He brings more problems than solutions. He drags the conversation away from what will be needed to be done to save America. 

Trump needs to go. The point is for AMERICA TO WIN, not for The Big Cheeto to win. 

[HellToupee 1,649]

45 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey BH:  No one reads your sermons. Get to the point and get out.  HTH. 

HT I like most of your posts but I’m also a big fan of BH and although I don’t agree with some of his opinions  I may be on an island with this but I enjoy his meaty posts. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey BH:  No one reads your sermons. Get to the point and get out.  HTH. 

 

 

I started the above thread topic so people can take their complaints about my posts and thread topics there. 

You are more than welcome to try to bring your grudge there. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

46 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Foking idiots like you have the country in the chitter with the corrupt pedo president you elected 

You left us no choice. You’re leaving us no choice again. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,764]

21 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

HT I like most of your posts but I’m also a big fan of BH and although I don’t agree with some of his opinions but I may be on an island with this but I enjoy his meaty posts. 

The same.  If someone as knowledgeable, articulate and restrained is taking time to post this information either read or skip over it.  I like his material and he’s not crapping on people like a lot of other posters.  

[HellToupee 1,649]

Words to live by

 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

HT I like most of your posts but I’m also a big fan of BH and although I don’t agree with some of his opinions  I may be on an island with this but I enjoy his meaty posts. 

I do as well. But what’s the point of almost no one will read it? 

[thegeneral 3,065]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey BH:  No one reads your sermons. Get to the point and get out.  HTH. 

You don’t watch the accompanying 39 minute videos?!?

[seafoam1 2,858]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

He was lost in thought thinking of how he used to shower naked with his daughter. That's where that smile came from. 

[HellToupee 1,649]

33 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You don’t watch the accompanying 39 minute videos?!?

I enjoy all of his content. Give it a try , you might chat your mind on some issues 

[thegeneral 3,065]

2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

I enjoy all of his content. Give it a try , you might chat your mind on some issues 

I skim almost every post. I am not watching YouTube videos or really anything longer than 30 seconds. I get the gist from the post typically.

[RogerDodger 797]

 

[HellToupee 1,649]

 

[HellToupee 1,649]

[HellToupee 1,649]

 

[League Champion 1,896]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

 

Damn right!

Meanwhile Joe Biden was at a Barbie event sniffing and groping little kids.

[thegeneral 3,065]

What a pussay

Donald is going to betch out on all debates.

[thegeneral 3,065]

https://x.com/mikesington/status/1692311328009199696?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ
 

Yikes. He’s unwell.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

Trump  bringing the heat once again. I guess democrats just destroy records now if they show anything harmful to their cause. Seems fair. 

[HellToupee 1,649]

Fun fact

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Fun fact

 

 

Wu-Tang Clan ain’t nothin but shitt. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

 

 

[HellToupee 1,649]

16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

 

 

Believe in Father Trump 

[HellToupee 1,649]

 

[HellToupee 1,649]

The machismo is off the charts here. Even the Generalissimo has to agree 

 

[seafoam1 2,858]

32 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

The machismo is off the charts here. Even the Generalissimo has to agree 

 

And then there's this guy. 

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,764]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

 

 

America is waking up.  Father Trump always ends up being correct 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

America is waking up.  Father Trump always ends up being correct 

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/fact-checker-most-repeated-disinformation/?tid=graphics-story