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Trump should say he’s going to indict Newsome when he wins. 

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

No

California’s state and local government debt is roughly $1.6 trillion, which includes a proper accounting of the state’s unfunded liabilities. To put this in perspective, this works out to about $125,000 of debt per California household and exceeds the annual GDP of all but 13 countries.

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

I disagree. 

Less than 30% of our residents can afford a home and we have the highest unemployment rate right now and businesses, people, and large corporations are leaving left and right. 

We have the highest tax rate, highest gas prices. Insurance companies refuse to insure. Car insurance is up 22%. Median home price is $900k. 

A LOT of the country talks sh!t about CA, and I have a lot of very close friends that sold their $1.2 million dollar homes here that were 2100sq ft and bought literal mansions in other states. 

Sooo...I don't think other states want to be us. You're jaded. 

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15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

This is fun.

Gov. Gavin Newsom proposes painful cuts to close California’s growing budget deficit

California's budget deficit is at least $45 billion, a shortfall so large it prompted Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday to propose painful spending cuts impacting immigrants, kindergarteners and low-income parents seeking child care in a state often lauded for having the world's fifth-largest economy.

 

 

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15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

:lol:

A Broken Tax and Fiscal System

For decades, the Golden State of California promised a new beginning and a chance to make dreams come true.

But the state has slipped over the last decade.

There is no question that the Great Recession has been a big part of the problem. But the California budget process and our state’s chronic fiscal crisis has made things even worse for working and middle-income families and individuals.

California has faced massive budget deficits and sustained billions of dollars in drastic cuts to our most valuable resources that have made the California Dream possible to so many: public schools and universities, state parks and beaches, the health care system, and basic safety-net programs which protect the most vulnerable Californians—our children, the elderly and the disabled.

 

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15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

  • The high cost of living in California, including skyrocketing housing prices and high taxes, can strain residents’ finances.
  • Natural and environmental threats like wildfires, droughts, pollution, and earthquakes pose concerns for residents’ safety and well-being.
  • Traffic congestion and overcrowding in major cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco make commuting a nightmare and finding affordable housing a challenge.
  • While California has its attractions, it’s essential to weigh the drawbacks and consider individual circumstances before deciding to live in the state.

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15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

 

New report says California is among the worst places to live if you want to save

According to a recent study from ConsumerAffairs, California is number two in the United States for going broke while living on savings alone.

:lol:

SAN DIEGO COUNTY, Calif. — Californians, how much money do you have saved in your bank account, do you think it's enough to get you by until you land your next job?

If the answer is no and you are still planning to stay in California then it's time to start saving that extra change and become more frugal with spending.

The reason financial advisors are warning consumers to save is that California is number two in the United States for going broke while living on savings alone, according to a recent study from ConsumerAffairs, a company not affiliated with any government organization.

The study found most Americans have enough savings to last them just two months. 

“We had a pretty high savings rate during covid-19 what happened was when all the stimulus checks came in, the savings rate came really high, and now what’s happening is really that's starting to dwindle or be non-existent quite honestly,” said San Diego Financial Advisor David Reyes.

He adds that part of it is because of disparities in living costs, there’s also a generational divide and an alarming low savings rate from retirees.

“The lack of savings in general for retirees, I mean the average retiree has $100,000 dollars in savings,” said Reyes.

Which brings up the question of, what does that mean for struggling families in San Diego?

“To start a family here, it’s almost impossible,” said Reyes.

The survey also says depending on where you live you could have even less time. To put it into perspective, a San Diego County resident with $9,647— the average amount of money Americans have in savings— would quickly see their bank account deplete in less than two months because of skyrocketing rent, gas, and utilities, and food.

Compared to the state of Wyoming where you can survive on savings for almost 109.7 days.

“I mean it's a problem, they have no state income tax. you know our state income tax is up to 13.3%. They have no corporate income tax, we do. Their property tax is half what California is. their gas price is 30% less,” said Reyes.

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16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

:banana:

California is the worst-run state in the country

 

California Democrats have found out the hard way since 2020 that while many residents continue to elect them, several others have taken to voting with their feet.

Between April 2020 and July 2022, California’s population declined by more than 500,000. Nearly 700,000 more people moved out of the state than moved in. This was a result of the pandemic lockdowns California imposed combined with the state’s incredibly high cost of living, but it wasn’t just the initial round of lockdowns that had this effect. From July 2021 to July 2022, some 211,000 people left the state, with nearly half that number coming from Los Angeles County.

The only thing preventing California from seeing the biggest population loss of any state during this time was a 157,000 net gain between births and deaths, which made New York the biggest loser. While the two most prominent Democrat-run states bled residents, the two most prominent Republican-run states prospered: Texas gained 884,000 people, and Florida gained 707,000.

The resulting losses have left California with a budget deficit, which is being addressed by cutting climate and training programs for workers the state is forcing out of business. The state’s power grid is on the brink of collapse. Its roads are three times more expensive than Texas’s, and yet they rank among the worst in the nation, even after making its gas tax one of the highest to bleed more money out of its residents. The bullet train pet project is a money furnace as well and won’t be completed “this century.”

 

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16 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We remain by far the wealthiest state and the 5th largest economy in the world. Trust me every other state in the union would love to be us. 

:thumbsdown:

I don’t regret living in California, because it is truly a beautiful place and the weather truly is beautiful. In southern California near the ocean, anyway. It was nice to experience and I’m glad I was here to see the truth about what is really happening. However, after experiencing California, and after much thought and research, it would be regretful and foolish to stay here. It is simply not sustainable anymore and the quality is quickly degrading.

Honestly, if I could be free from extremely high taxes, massive immigration problems, extreme housing costs, increasing crime, and out of control legislative oppression, I would stay in California. I could deal with the flaky people. Without all those other issues, there would be no better place to be.

But realistically, that simply isn’t going to happen. Not anytime soon, anyway. The fantasy ideal of California has become but a fantasy, a distant memory, an emotional feeling that you can feel when you think about it or step outside ignorantly, but quickly forget when the first of the month comes around, or tax season comes around, or you look at your neighborhood, or you look at your paycheck, or you look at the fact you have no paycheck, or you realize you can’t buy a house unless you’re really stupid and think you can, or when your children become degraded both morally and psychologically from the political and cultural climate.

In fact, it’s quite amusing to hear people talk about how they love California, all their reasons will be because the weather is good, or because it’s good because of the nice weather, or because the sun is shining and the weather is nice, or because it’s warm outside because the weather is nice, or some other derivative of “the weather is nice”. This is because the only real benefit of living in California is because of the weather. That and the emotional ideal itself of “living in California”. There really isn’t any other reason.

California is on one of the steepest declines in quality of living in the nation. Taxes, housing, and immigration are some of the primary factors contributing to this decline. Whereas California has historically been a coveted and highly desired place to be, from both native Californians and other-staters alike for the past many decades, this is no longer the case.

However, it is true that there are still some happy Californians, but I believe that this is because they are either not aware of what has been happening in this formerly glorious state during the past decade and how it is affecting them and is going to affect them in the coming years; or because they are young and not yet directly impacted by the terrible changes in this state; or because they are older, probably a homeowner from the good days, and not directly impacted by the changes (yet) for a variety of reasons, or refuse to admit it even to themselves because they do not want to uproot their lives.

This is not just my own opinion. People are fleeing the state in droves, and the exodus is so great that few native Californians are left, and the massive influx of foreign immigrants masks the utter severity of the issue. Over 600,000 people are leaving California each year.

Articles about people fleeing California are a dime a dozen, every news agency is regularly talking about it. It has become so accepted and well known that the news are now talking about which states are best to move to, taking it as a given that people are fleeing and looking for an alternative.

Here are the top ten reasons why this is happening, why you should leave California if you are here, and why you should not come to California if you are thinking about it. You missed the boat, it sailed 8 years ago. California is no longer the place to be, and here are the top ten reasons why.

10) California People Are Notorious Flakes

 

Ok so this one probably isn't new, so it's last on the list but still worth mentioning. Flaky flaky flaky. It isn't just your friends, it's the businesses, even people trying to sell you something are going to flake out on you. People are utter flakes. They say they will do something, but they never follow through.

This of course puts a huge strain on running a small business, because buyers and sellers alike will flake out on you. You want to buy something? Be prepared for the seller to flake on you. You want to sell something? Be prepared for 19/20 buyers to flake on you. My theory is that it's because the weather is so nice and the culture tries to tell people to do whatever they feel like, so people feel free from obligations.

As a result, people say things that mean commitments, but really they never made a commitment at all. Sure, they totally meant to follow through when they said it. But then something else comes up and they change their mind. This holds true for the poor and the rich alike in California. Sure, there are flaky people everywhere, but I have lived in several parts of the country, and Californians take it to an entirely new level of flakiness.

9) California Legislation Is a Joke and It's Not Funny

725 new laws (most of them either completely pointless or completely stupid) went into effect in the state of California on January 1st, 2011. Recent years have only gotten worse.

In 2011, California Governor Jerry Brown unveiled a "draconian" budget plan that included 12 billion dollars more in spending cuts and that maintains 12 billion dollars in recent tax increases.

A couple days ago, on October 7, 2015, California Governor Edmund Brown unveiled the worst "climate change" legislation in years, skyrocketing electricity costs and doubling legislative energy efficiency requirements, despite the fact that the idea of CO2 as the driver of climate change was debunked as a hoax more than 10 years ago. Just goes to show that California legislators and lawmakers are either stupid or unethical, using whatever reason possible, even lies, myths, and hoaxes, to increase legislation and destroy this once great state.

 

😎 California's Education System Is Awful and Only Getting Worse

California’s state funding to K-12 schools fell 19% from 2008 to 2012. Prior to 2007, California's per-pupil spending was $10,687 (inflation-adjusted), which ranked 25th in the nation. After cuts incurred during the recession, California’s per-pupil spending dropped to $9,892, 39th in the nation. This amount is amount is $2,000 lower than the U.S. average. Other studies have shown that after adjusting for varied costs of living among states, California’s per-pupil spending levels are even lower.

While California’s per-pupil spending lags behind the national average, the state contributes a large share of its budget to K-12. Approximately 28% of state-only funds are spent towards K-12 education, which is the 12th highest budget share in the nation. However, these funds must be spread across a relatively high number of students. Approximately 16.5% of the state’s population are K-12 students, the 8th highest portion in the nation.

The funding shortfall of the California State Teacher’s Retirement Benefit System (CalSTRS) presents a looming threat to future school district budgets.

California’s low per-pupil spending is reflected in its low number of teachers. In 2012-13, California had a student-to-teacher ratio of 25-to-1, the highest in the nation and much higher than the 15-to-1 national average. This means that California students experience much larger class sizes (10 students higher), must share resources with more students, and teachers have less time with each student.

Compared to other states, California students rank poorly on performance measures. Over the last decade, California students have lagged significantly behind national standards. For example, California’s 4th and 8th grade students are in the bottom ten nationwide in both math and reading.

7) California Forces Liberal Ideologies Down People's Throats. Literally.

In one school district in California, children as young as five years old are being forced to watch liberal propaganda films that tout the benefits of "alternative lifestyles", and parents are being told that no "opting out" will be permitted.

Vaccines, which are proven to cause neurological issues, are being forced on the population. Children, including newborns are being given vaccines behind their parents' backs and without, even against, their parents' consent. Don't let your newborn out of your sight! Many infants have been killed by vaccines administered by deluded physicians against their parents' explicit instructions to never give a vaccine. Surviving infants are raised with permanent disabilities including OCD, Tourette's, ADHD, and other psychological disorders.

Children at schools in California are even required to get forced STD vaccines, even if they are not having sex. In other words, good children have to be infected with an STD because California legislation determined they want to cut down on STDs. There is a good way to really get rid of STDs - stop promoting feminism, forcing children to watch sex videos and homosexual propaganda in school, and allowing sexual advertising. Stop saying it's okay to "do whatever makes you happy" which is contributing to the issue. If people did not sleep around, there would be no way to catch STDs.

6) California Crime Rates Are Continuing To Increase

Not all cities are unsafe, but many are. Los Angeles, San Francisco, and many others are bad and continuing to get worse. Formerly nice areas are degrading, and crime is spreading.

Things have gotten so bad in Stockton, California that the police union put up a billboard with the following message: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops."

Anthony Batts, the Police Chief for Oakland, California, announced last year that due to severe budget cuts there are a number of crimes that his department will simply not be able to respond to any longer. The crimes that the Oakland police will no longer be responding to include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.

The crime rate in the San Diego school system is escalating out of control. The following is what San Diego School Police Chief Don Braun recently told the press about the current situation: "Violent crime in schools has risen 31 percent. Property crime has risen 12 percent. Weapons violations (have gone up) almost 8 percent."

During one recent 23 year period, the state of California built 23 prisons but just one university.

5) California Is Terrible for Small Business

 

It isn't just the people who are trying to get out; the businesses are moving too. California is the 48th worst state in the nation for business, following only New York and Hawaii. Excessive taxes are destroying small businesses and the middle class, leading to a mass exodus of small businesses to other states like Texas and Washington.

At one point last year it was reported that in the area around Sacramento, California there was one closed business for every six that were still open.

4) California Unemployment Is One Of The Worst In The Nation

In some areas of California, the level of unemployment is absolutely nightmarish. For example, 24.3 percent of the residents of El Centro, California are now unemployed. Worse, this does not represent the real and unpublished unemployment rate, which is as high as 50% in some areas.

3) California Taxes Are Outrageously and Ridiculously High

With some of the highest taxes in the nation, California taxes everything, from some of the highest state income taxes, to taxes on gasoline, food, water, tags, smog, luxury taxes, hidden taxes, and anything else you can think of. Tax tax tax. Can it be taxed? Let's increase the tax. To top it off there is the 8 - 9% sales tax rate depending on the county. California has the highest state sales tax rate in the nation by far at 8.25%. Some counties have a 10% tax rate. Indiana has the next highest tax rate at 7%.

More than 60% of a Californian's income goes to some form of taxes. Homeowners have an even higher tax rate due to the property taxes on absurdly priced houses. Fortunately the illegal immigrants don't have to pay taxes because they are illegal. Well, technically they have to, they just don't. Instead, the legal taxpayers subsidize their welfare food stamps, section 8 housing, and even spending money so the illegal immigrant population of 10 million illegals can all live for free which the legal citizens slave away and give more than half their income to the state and federal government.

2) California Immigration Problem is Out Of Control

Continuing on that note, the illegal immigration population is exploding with a massive influx of 500,000 illegal immigrants per year and 1.1 million foreign children born in the US to these illegal aliens.

This is costing U.S. taxpayers over $25 billion dollars per year, and of course only the law abiding citizens will be footing this bill since the illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. In some cities, 95% of the population is Mexican, such as Santa Ana; and in other cities, over 85% of the population is Asian, such as Irvine (another 10% are from other countries such as Pakistan or India). Don't believe Wikipedia! I could take a video today and show you not a single American for 5 minutes oh, there's one, okay Mexican, Asian, Mexican, Indian, Pakistani, Asian, Mexican. etc. I'm not even kidding, sometimes I don't even feel like I am in America anymore.

Nothing against Mexican-Americans or Asian-Americans, mind you. This isn't a hate against any kind of people. This is simply a disdain for out of control immigration. Most of these immigrants are visiting, on a work or school visa, from a foreign country such as China, or illegal from Mexico, are not citizens and have no plans to be, refuse to assimilate, speak limited English, and most importantly and worse, they send all their high-income earnings back to their home country, siphoning it away from the local economy. No wonder the state is suffering so badly.

Immigration alone is not the problem. Excessive immigration, combined with excessive illegal immigration and free welfare given to illegal immigrants, is the problem. Take away welfare and suddenly 90% of the illegal population will no longer have any reason to be here. The problem would be solved. Sadly, this isn't a total solution because the illegal population would just emigrate to other states and continue to steal welfare and live for free. The total solution is to take away all welfare for all illegal immigrants in all states. That would take care of the bulk of the problem.

1) California Housing Prices Are Out Of Control

With a small 2 bedroom house starting at $650,000, and a sub $500,000 house entirely nonexistent, housing is ridiculously out of control. People are taking out million dollar mortgages for houses that will inevitably fall in price, because what goes up must come down. They naively believe that the prices will continue to climb, and ignore the massive debt burden they are taking on, in a market that could make them lose their job any day and be stuck with a million dollar foreclosure and a total loss of an amount of money that could have fully paid off a house in another area.

California had more foreclosure filings that any other U.S. state in 2010. The 546,669 total foreclosure filings during the year means that over 4 percent of all the housing units in the state of California received a foreclosure filing at some point during 2010.

Renting is no better, with apartments in nice areas starting at $2,500 per month for a small 2 bedroom apartment (a large one starts at $2800), and $1,800 as the lowest for less nice areas, the renting prices are just silly absurd. And let's not forget that every single year the rent goes up $100 to $200. In a few years a 2 bedroom apartment will cost over $3,000 per month. That's just stupidly ridiculous! Add to that some of the highest electricity costs in the country, and even renting is unaffordable for most people who have below an upper-class income.

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Trump is the greatest president. That's why the liberals have been psychotically going after him for 9 years now. They are third world thinkers. 

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6 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Isn’t that the dude that Keeps Forgettin’ everything?  Hard pass. 

What a fool believes....

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Thomas Friedman on Trump’s idiocy: 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/06/08/thomas_friedman_trump_did_stupidest_thing_thats_been_done_in_post-cold_war_foreign_policy_by_ending_iran_nuclear_deal.html
 

Worst foreign policy President in modern history, and he’s running against one of the best. Do we really want this disaster again??

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14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Trump is in a black church in Detroit surrounded by a bunch of white people.

I support the white population. :thumbsup:

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Calling people losers and asking them to come together.  Some of you think his mind is well.

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The pastor of one of the country’s largest churches—and who Donald Trump once named as a spiritual adviser—has admitted to “inappropriate sexual behavior” with a woman who says he sexually abused her when she was just 12 years old.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-spiritual-adviser-robert-morris-half-confesses-to-molesting-12-year-old-girl

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29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The pastor of one of the country’s largest churches—and who Donald Trump once named as a spiritual adviser—has admitted to “inappropriate sexual behavior” with a woman who says he sexually abused her when she was just 12 years old.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-spiritual-adviser-robert-morris-half-confesses-to-molesting-12-year-old-girl

The current president is called Pedo Peter by members of his own family.  

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13 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The current president is called Pedo Peter by members of his own family.  

No they don't, stop it.

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7 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Wrong

 

 

💥 Down goes Frazier! 

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1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Wrong

 

 

Since Tucker Carlson told you so it's true? :lol:

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17 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Since Tucker Carlson told you so it's true? :lol:

The laptop told us, Dummy. You know, the one that we were told was illegitimate but it turns out is authentic? Now why would they say it wasn’t legit when it was? 

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7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The laptop told us, Dummy. You know, the one that we were told was illegitimate but it turns out is authentic? Now why would they say it wasn’t legit when it was? 

No the laptop didn't tell you, dummy.  This rumor came out of a supposed icloud leak of Hunter Biden's account, but not it has ever been validated and is assumed to be false and just part of the right wing obsession with Hunter Biden.

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1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Wrong

 

 

Batshit Tucker thinks Alex Jones is a prophet who has visions into the future 😂

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2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No the laptop didn't tell you, dummy.  This rumor came out of a supposed icloud leak of Hunter Biden's account, but not it has ever been validated and is assumed to be false and just part of the right wing obsession with Hunter Biden.

Ok. I guess the FBI submitted as evidence the contents of the laptop in a criminal trial but it’s just a rumor. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok. I guess the FBI submitted as evidence the contents of the laptop in a criminal trial but it’s just a rumor. 

I didn't say the laptop is a rumor, dummy, I said the hunter contact list that has Joe listed as Pedo Peter is the rumor.

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4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Batshit Tucker thinks Alex Jones is a prophet who has visions into the future 😂

Tucker may be on to something considering the track record of Jones the past couple of years 

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4 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I didn't say the laptop is a rumor, dummy, I said the hunter contact list that has Joe listed as Pedo Peter is the truth.

Yep. 

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20 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Tucker may be on to something considering the track record of Jones the past couple of years 

The track record of him losing everything he owns for peddling lies about Sandy Hook shooting being fake?  That track record?

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4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The track record of him losing everything he owns for peddling lies about Sandy Hook shooting being fake?  That track record?

You have to be tarded. He made stupid statements that he was grossly disproportionately punished for. Sandy hook was 12 years ago. 
 

hth

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2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

You have to be tarded. He made stupid statements that he was grossly disproportionately punished for. Sandy hook was 12 years ago. 
 

hth

Alex Jones is a lunatic scam artist.  No wonder you support him.

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