Trump INDICTED

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You really need to separate: 

1. Did Biden use his influence to allow Bunter to get a sweet plea deal on tax evasion? I don’t know, but that’s what the whistleblowers say, and it wouldn’t surprise me. Politicians pull this crap all the time. It’s wrong and crappy but doesn’t IMO rise to a serious offense. 
 

2. Did Biden accept money from Ukraine and/or China in exchange for political favors? That’s a serious offense. It’s treason if it happened. It’s as bad or worse as anything Trump is charged with. But I have strong doubts that this ever happened. You claim we’ll never know because of a DOJ coverup and I have even stronger doubts about that claim. 

I do not care about tax evasion, nor Hunter.  Did Hunter get a sweet deal, sure, so have many others. Oh well....the DOJ protected him, of course.

It is clear that Hunter was the way-point for the Biden pay-for-play scheme.  And Joe Biden was funnelling money into a mix of LLC's under the names of his family.  And to pause right there, he did this with some of the younger kids as well, I mean....that is some really low-life despicable stuff to involve the little ones... so the DOJ was less protecting Hunter so much as Joe....

We have enough to move forward on this. 

If this same scenario had transpired with Trump and Trump Jr. you know very well you would be actively supporting pursuit of "justice"

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I still don’t understand how he was misrepresented. 

The portrayal was anti-semtic, that is false, he was not doing that. It is spin.  The media is lying. 

But again, fine by me, I want him out of the race for President as well. So, all good. Run him down by all means.

But I am being a hypocrit in doing this, because I know this move is wrong and allowing something wrong to be done, even to somone i am not on board with, is being a hypocrit.

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Tim is the biggest hypocrite that's ever posted on a message board.

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You really need to separate: 

1. Did Biden use his influence to allow Bunter to get a sweet plea deal on tax evasion? I don’t know, but that’s what the whistleblowers say, and it wouldn’t surprise me. Politicians pull this crap all the time. It’s wrong and crappy but doesn’t IMO rise to a serious offense. 
 

2. Did Biden accept money from Ukraine and/or China in exchange for political favors? That’s a serious offense. It’s treason if it happened. It’s as bad or worse as anything Trump is charged with. But I have strong doubts that this ever happened. You claim we’ll never know because of a DOJ coverup and I have even stronger doubts about that claim. 

The weird thing is Tim is that you can’t explain with any reason why our foreign adversaries were willing to pay Hunter, James and Frank Biden millions of dollars for so many years and ramped up when Joe became VP. What value, product or service did they provide that warranted 40 million in payments from our foreign adversaries? What in your opinion were they offering that was worth that much money? 
 

You also poopoo Luf because he was charged with a FARA violation for working with CEFC. The same CEFC that we have verified proof paid Hunter 10 million dollars and met with the President in LA as confirmed by Rob Walker, Hunters ex business partner who swore under oath to the meeting. 

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35 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not care about tax evasion, nor Hunter.  Did Hunter get a sweet deal, sure, so have many others. Oh well....the DOJ protected him, of course.

It is clear that Hunter was the way-point for the Biden pay-for-play scheme.  And Joe Biden was funnelling money into a mix of LLC's under the names of his family.  And to pause right there, he did this with some of the younger kids as well, I mean....that is some really low-life despicable stuff to involve the little ones... so the DOJ was less protecting Hunter so much as Joe....

We have enough to move forward on this. 

If this same scenario had transpired with Trump and Trump Jr. you know very well you would be actively supporting pursuit of "justice"

LOL tell me what TV channel or website you’re getting this from. I have a scam and I want to advertise it to the most gullible people in the world. I could make millions off rubes dumb enough to believe this stuff.

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36 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

The weird thing is Tim is that you can’t explain with any reason why our foreign adversaries were willing to pay Hunter, James and Frank Biden millions of dollars for so many years and ramped up when Joe became VP. What value, product or service did they provide that warranted 40 million in payments from our foreign adversaries? What in your opinion were they offering that was worth that much money? 
 

You also poopoo Luf because he was charged with a FARA violation for working with CEFC. The same CEFC that we have verified proof paid Hunter 10 million dollars and met with the President in LA as confirmed by Rob Walker, Hunters ex business partner who swore under oath to the meeting. 

1. Hunter was given that money and job in the hope that Joe would be favorable. Happens all the time. It’s corrupt but not unusual. Same reason so many diplomats and international businesses stayed at Trump’s hotel . It would be unusual if Joe took money directly in return for actual favors. If you can prove that, you’ve got something. 
 

Same for the second assertion- prove it and I’m willing to throw the book at Biden. 

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11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

LOL tell me what TV channel or website you’re getting this from. I have a scam and I want to advertise it to the most gullible people in the world. I could make millions off rubes dumb enough to believe this stuff.

I am watching the hearing on the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. The IRS has presented evidence, provided by banking institutions. They have actual evidence, this one is not a fabricated dossier. 

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So everyone agree that Trump and Biden are crooks etc. Yet one has been impeached twice and indicted three times. The other nothing. So peoples attempt to claim they are calling out both sides can go scratch. 

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am watching the hearing on the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. The IRS has presented evidence, provided by banking institutions. They have actual evidence, this one is not a fabricated dossier. 

Ah, the hearing with the naked Hunter pics. Yep, Gym Jordan and MTG are very very serious. Gonna get Biden any minute now. Try listening to Jamie Raskin during those hearings. He’s the guy with a bandana on his head. He throws cold water all over the GOP every day.

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

1. Hunter was given that money and job in the hope that Joe would be favorable. Happens all the time. It’s corrupt but not unusual. Same reason so many diplomats and international businesses stayed at Trump’s hotel . It would be unusual if Joe took money directly in return for actual favors. If you can prove that, you’ve got something. 
 

Same for the second assertion- prove it and I’m willing to throw the book at Biden. 

So they kept doing it, for years, for hope? Hope is worth 40 million?

Here’s the newly released 1023 notes where the Burisma CEO asserts he paid the Bidens to fire Victor Shoken.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf

“According to the FBI’s confidential human source, executives for Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, brought Hunter Biden on the board to “protect us through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” At the time, Burisma was seeking to do business in the United States, but was facing a corruption investigation in Ukraine, led by then-Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Regarding that investigation’s impact on its ambitions in North America, Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky reportedly said, “Don't worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad.” Zlochevsky reportedly stated that he had to pay $5 million to Hunter Biden and $5 million to Joe Biden, an arrangement he described as ‘poluchili,’ which is Russian crime slang for being “forced or coerced to pay,” according to the document.”

 

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Just now, dogcows said:

Ah, the hearing with the naked Hunter pics. Yep, Gym Jordan and MTG are very very serious. Gonna get Biden any minute now. Try listening to Jamie Raskin during those hearings. He’s the guy with a bandana on his head. He throws cold water all over the GOP every day.

Hard to believe it, but the Bidens are totally clean, above board. But I’m still trying to figure out how all of them got so dang rich? 

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7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So everyone agree that Trump and Biden are crooks etc. 

No. I don’t think that Biden is a crook. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hard to believe it, but the Bidens are totally clean, above board. But I’m still trying to figure out how all of them got so dang rich? 

They got rich of hope according to Tim 

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1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

So they kept doing it, for years, for hope? Hope is worth 40 million?

Here’s the newly released 1023 notes where the Burisma CEO asserts he paid the Bidens to fire Victor Shoken.

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf

“According to the FBI’s confidential human source, executives for Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, brought Hunter Biden on the board to “protect us through his dad, from all kinds of problems.” At the time, Burisma was seeking to do business in the United States, but was facing a corruption investigation in Ukraine, led by then-Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Regarding that investigation’s impact on its ambitions in North America, Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky reportedly said, “Don't worry Hunter will take care of all of those issues through his dad.” Zlochevsky reportedly stated that he had to pay $5 million to Hunter Biden and $5 million to Joe Biden, an arrangement he described as ‘poluchili,’ which is Russian crime slang for being “forced or coerced to pay,” according to the document.”

 

But this is all based on the source Giuliani was peddling right? 

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Just now, dogcows said:

Ah, the hearing with the naked Hunter pics. Yep, Gym Jordan and MTG are very very serious. Gonna get Biden any minute now. Try listening to Jamie Raskin during those hearings. He’s the guy with a bandana on his head. He throws cold water all over the GOP every day.

So.....you think the IRS and FBI whistleblowers are all lying.....and the banks, are all.....lying....   well, I guess that could be true. That all these disparate people, somehow got Hunter Biden to dump evidence at a repair shop, then fabricated all the money moving through the banking system, and then all these different people were called in to lie about it.....

If that is your position, sure, have at it.   Luckily, there are people less inclined to conspiracy theories and more apt to look at the evidence. 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/4073814-what-if-a-biden-goes-to-prison-instead-of-trump/

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-what-to-know-00102700

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

No. I don’t think that Biden is a crook. 

Then how did his whole family get so rich? None of them have a job. Well, Dr. Jill is a teacher and his daughter is a social worker with all sorts of mental health issues and a drug problem.  Lol. Anyway, why was his daughter in law getting cut checks from the Chinese via a shell corporation? 

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So.....you think the IRS and FBI whistleblowers are all lying.....and the banks, are all.....lying....   well, I guess that could be true. That all these disparate people, somehow got Hunter Biden to dump evidence at a repair shop, then fabricated all the money moving through the banking system, and then all these different people were called in to lie about it.....

If that is your position, sure, have at it.   Luckily, there are people less inclined to conspiracy theories and more apt to look at the evidence. 

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/4073814-what-if-a-biden-goes-to-prison-instead-of-trump/

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/20/hunter-biden-what-to-know-00102700

I didn’t say all of them were lying. I’m saying that what they’ve said so far doesn’t amount to any wrongdoing by the President. It’s all innuendo.

You are convinced there’s evidence Joe Biden did something bad. But nobody can quite explain what… they just know something fishy is going on. Or that if Hunter was involved in business deals, it MUST have involved his dad… despite zero evidence of that. You’re believing without evidence. I believe the term for that is faith. There definitely is a cult-like quality to the true believers of Biden being a crime boss.

All of this to turn sentiment against Biden, and distract from job growth, dropping inflation, and more good news. Not a single charge will be brought against Joe Biden, since there’s no evidence. But hey, they got Hunter. He’s a drug-addicted Fock-up…. Which we’ve all known for years.

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13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then how did his whole family get so rich? None of them have a job. Well, Dr. Jill is a teacher and his daughter is a social worker with all sorts of mental health issues and a drug problem.  Lol. Anyway, why was his daughter in law getting cut checks from the Chinese via a shell corporation? 

Biden’s net worth is 9 million:

 

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/joe-biden-net-worth/amp/

Most of this came after he was VP- speaking fees and the like. Compared to other prominent politicians it’s not very impressive. 

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Kevin McCarthy, for example is worth 95 million: 

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/kevin-mccarthy-net-worth/

Pretty good for a life long politician from Bakersfield! 

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Mitch McConnell is worth 35 million: 

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/republicans/mitch-mcconnell-net-worth/

I could do this all day. If you have proof that Biden is a criminal then show it. His net worth of 9 million doesn’t prove anything. 

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21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

But this is all based on the source Giuliani was peddling right? 

I see you dodged the first question. These are CH sources per the 1023s  which up until 10 minutes ago were legitimate FBI sources per the left. Come on you want a serious conversation on this bringing up Giuliani? He has nothing to do with any of it.

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden’s net worth is 9 million:

 

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/joe-biden-net-worth/amp/

Most of this came after he was VP- speaking fees and the like. Compared to other prominent politicians it’s not very impressive. 

No it’s not. He filed 17 million during 2017-2018 alone. This is documented fact. Mix in the 20 LLCs, his S-Corp and all of the family accounts and the number is astronomical.

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4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Mitch McConnell is worth 35 million: 

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/republicans/mitch-mcconnell-net-worth/

I could do this all day. If you have proof that Biden is a criminal then show it. His net worth of 9 million doesn’t prove anything. 

Yeah he’s a phucking crook too just like you’re a disingenuous leftists. 

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1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

No it’s not. He filed 17 million during 2017-2018 alone. This is documented fact. Mix in the 20 LLCs, his S-Corp and all of the family accounts and the number is astronomical.

Do you have this documented fact? Because it contradicts what I posted. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Kevin McCarthy, for example is worth 95 million: 

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/kevin-mccarthy-net-worth/

This one says 30 million but if you think I don’t think they are all crooks you’re barking up the wrong tree.

https://caknowledge.com/kevin-mccarthy-net-worth/

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you have this documented fact? Because it contradicts what I posted. 

Yeah it’s called the internet. Sorry I was off by 1.4 million 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452259-biden-releases-tax-returns-showing-steep-rise-in-income/amp/

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Just now, Dizkneelande said:

This one says 30 million but if you think I don’t think they are all crooks you’re barking up the wrong tree.

https://caknowledge.com/kevin-mccarthy-net-worth/

I think they all earn money from speaking fees. I don’t believe most of them are crooks. Again I’m always willing to look at proof. 

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2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Yeah it’s called the internet. Sorry I was off by 1.4 million 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452259-biden-releases-tax-returns-showing-steep-rise-in-income/amp/

That’s an annual income for one year. But the net worth could still be 9 million. Both could be true especially if he makes bad investments. 
 

I don’t care if he’s a billionaire. The amount of his wealth doesn’t prove crooked behavior. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think they all earn money from speaking fees. I don’t believe most of them are crooks. Again I’m always willing to look at proof. 

He made 15.6 million speaking and selling 300k books? I think we need to turn this around and you need to explain how that is remotely possible when the guy couldn’t get a dozen people to show up for a rally. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

That’s an annual income for one year. But the net worth could still be 9 million. Both could be true especially if he makes bad investments. 
 

I don’t care if he’s a billionaire. The amount of his wealth doesn’t prove crooked behavior. 

You’re lost and you want serious conversation. If not you’re the most naive person in America. 

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Just now, Dizkneelande said:

He made 15.6 million speaking and selling 300k books? I think we need to turn this around and you need to explain how that is remotely possible when the guy couldn’t get a dozen people to show up for a rally. 

I’m telling ya the speaking fees are insane. The corporations shell out the money for politicians. I’ve never understood it. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

I’m telling ya the speaking fees are insane. The corporations shell out the money for politicians. I’ve never understood it. 

Yeah you can understand it. It’s called a delayed quid pro quo. 

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21 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I didn’t say all of them were lying. I’m saying that what they’ve said so far doesn’t amount to any wrongdoing by the President. It’s all innuendo.

You are convinced there’s evidence Joe Biden did something bad. But nobody can quite explain what… they just know something fishy is going on. Or that if Hunter was involved in business deals, it MUST have involved his dad… despite zero evidence of that. You’re believing without evidence. I believe the term for that is faith. There definitely is a cult-like quality to the true believers of Biden being a crime boss.

All of this to turn sentiment against Biden, and distract from job growth, dropping inflation, and more good news. Not a single charge will be brought against Joe Biden, since there’s no evidence. But hey, they got Hunter. He’s a drug-addicted Fock-up…. Which we’ve all known for years.

We have a little more than innuendo here, that would be the fake Russian dossier you are thinking about.

In this case, we have the bank records, the admissions of Hunter via text.  We have more actual evidence than they used for the first fake impeachment on Trump.  Now, I am not suggesting there is impeachment here, yet......, I am still awaiting something more in terms of evidence.  There has to be a linkage of policies and payments.  If they cannot accomplish this and prove the treason that is obviously there, then this is all moot. 

To suggest that Joe Biden did not have involvement in this pay for play scheme is a little farcical at this time. 

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4 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You’re lost and you want serious conversation. If not you’re the most naive person in America. 

Sorry you feel that way. You also called me a leftist. That’s wrong. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sorry you feel that way. You also called me a leftist. That’s wrong. 

You are a leftist. Why do you guys always deny it?

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13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You also called me a leftist. That’s wrong. 

Breaking News 

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22 minutes ago, RLLD said:

We have a little more than innuendo here, that would be the fake Russian dossier you are thinking about.

In this case, we have the bank records, the admissions of Hunter via text.  We have more actual evidence than they used for the first fake impeachment on Trump.  Now, I am not suggesting there is impeachment here, yet......, I am still awaiting something more in terms of evidence.  There has to be a linkage of policies and payments.  If they cannot accomplish this and prove the treason that is obviously there, then this is all moot. 

To suggest that Joe Biden did not have involvement in this pay for play scheme is a little farcical at this time. 

You believe it, even though you admit there is no evidence of it. This is blind faith. Your religion is hating Joe Biden. Sad.

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

You believe it, even though you admit there is no evidence of it. This is blind faith. Your religion is hating Joe Biden. Sad.

Dear Lord....How did liberals get so stupid? 

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50 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden’s net worth is 9 million:

 

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-worth/politicians/joe-biden-net-worth/amp/

Most of this came after he was VP- speaking fees and the like. Compared to other prominent politicians it’s not very impressive. 

And the rest of the family? Are you aware how money laundering works? 

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And the rest of the family? Are you aware how money laundering works? 

He's not. Go figure.