Trump INDICTED

[Fnord 2,051]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It seems that minority is running the show. 

On both sides, it would appear. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Wild this keeps happening yet here we are further divided thanks to the communist left. They know he starts with a legitimate 75 million votes and they can’t manufacture enough this time around to beat him. Republic be damned. 

[Mike Honcho 5,106]

13 hours ago, Gepetto said:

12 more years of Trump Presidency! 

4 for Donald

8 for Ivanka

Trump might get 12 years, but not in the way you are hoping.

[RLLD 4,143]

If we can be honest about this for a moment, this is a pointed effort arising from Democrats to prevent Trump from being able to run for President, plain and simple, and there is nothing past this factor actually in play here.

Now Trump wants to elongate this thing, because if he is elected he can pardon himself.  Certainly that is a key component in his math.   Conversely, the Democrats want this to be fast. Trump is a threat to their power, and rather than allow Americans to elect what they want, Democrats want to hold exclusive power. Trump WILL resume improvement to the lives of people, and the Democrats fear this emphatically. 

I think the judge will not give either of them entirely what they want. So then it will likely boil down to how well the Trump legal team can foster delay.....and conversely how well the Democrats can avoid those delays.

Now, should it be true that Trump bails out of the election, then all of this would disappear.  I surmise he might be staying in as something of a "fock you" to the powerful.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

14 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

One more and he gets a free hat from the D.O.J.

A hat?  That's bull crap.  Even Kaffee got steak knives.

[thegeneral 2,915]

15 hours ago, shadrap said:

yep, he won an election in 2016 as a non-politician & search & destroy has been the Dem's mantra ever since, 24-7.  show me the man, any man & I can charge him with something.  Yes, Trump can be an abrasive, but no one in history has been under attack, including his family like Trump.   then you have the media, FBI, & CIA doing your bidding, the very crux of our nation is fxcked.

what goes around comes around though.  This is not acceptable & I'm sad politics & getting elected comes before the USA & it's citizens.  

You can’t waive what he did away by saying “he’s abrasive”. Sorry. He is guilty of this stuff - Jan 6th being the most serious. He makes it easy for people to come after him because he’s sloppy and openly admits what he does. It’s stunning how he just tells people what illegal thing he’s done or trying to do. 

The response I’ll get here is some nonsense about pedocrats or whatabout this…

This isn’t some new thing by the way. Much of the same was written about Bill Clinton and how he was an outsider hillbilly and they went after him. Trump himself made his entrance into the political world alluding that Obama wasn’t a legit President because something just wants right about him. 
 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,950]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You can’t waive what he did away by saying “he’s abrasive”. Sorry. He is guilty of this stuff - Jan 6th being the most serious. He makes it easy for people to come after him because he’s sloppy and openly admits what he does. It’s stunning how he just tells people what illegal thing he’s done or trying to do. 

The response I’ll get here is some nonsense about pedocrats or whatabout this…

This isn’t some new thing by the way. Much of the same was written about Bill Clinton and how he was an outsider hillbilly and they went after him. Trump himself made his entrance into the political world alluding that Obama wasn’t a legit President because something just wants right about him. 
 

You’re going to compare a two term governor to a guy that never held office and claim they are both outsiders? The imagination you folks have.  

[thegeneral 2,915]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’re going to compare a two term governor to a guy that never held office and claim they are both outsiders? The imagination you folks have.  

He was portrayed as a hillbilly from Arkansas.

So The Starr investigation wasn’t some bullshet “witchhunt” that meandered on for years until he focked up? Oh ok. 

Go ahead and buy into this deep state crap, Trump is a victim, etc, It’s not that he’s a screw up and and constantly messes up shet. Talk about imagination. Jesus H Christ.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,950]

7 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He was portrayed as a hillbilly from Arkansas.

So The Starr investigation wasn’t some bullshet “witchhunt” that meandered on for years until he focked up? Oh ok. 

Go ahead and buy into this deep state crap, Trump is a victim, etc, It’s not that he’s a screw up and and constantly messes up shet. Talk about imagination. Jesus H Christ.

And George Bush was portrayed as a rancher. Lol. Let me know when any of them claim they are an insider. 

[jerryskids 6,573]

28 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You can’t waive what he did away by saying “he’s abrasive”. Sorry. He is guilty of this stuff - Jan 6th being the most serious. He makes it easy for people to come after him because he’s sloppy and openly admits what he does. It’s stunning how he just tells people what illegal thing he’s done or trying to do. 

The response I’ll get here is some nonsense about pedocrats or whatabout this…

This isn’t some new thing by the way. Much of the same was written about Bill Clinton and how he was an outsider hillbilly and they went after him. Trump himself made his entrance into the political world alluding that Obama wasn’t a legit President because something just wants right about him. 
 

What exactly was he guilty of on Jan 6th, other than petulance?  I presume you missed the curated dog and pony show that proved nothing else.   

[thegeneral 2,915]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What exactly was he guilty of on Jan 6th, other than petulance?  I presume you missed the curated dog and pony show that proved nothing else.   

He had a plan going into the night of the election. Say he won before results were in. From there pressuring states as the president to overturn the results. He pressured the Justice Department to say it was rigged until they all started quitting (that people cry about the “Deep State” with Trump is a nice touch, the ass is just melting down because they won’t do his bidding). He continued to work with nuts in Congress to try and overturn results up until Jan 6th. This is all bullshet and he either knows it or is a lunatic. He still goes on about it constantly.

The office of the Prez has approaching unlimited power. He has proven he can’t be trusted with this. 

[TheNewGirl 1,353]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

 

The office of the Prez has approaching unlimited power. He has proven he can’t be trusted with this. 

And Biden can? 

He got in there and signed I don't even know how many Exec Orders in the first 30 days undoing most of what Trump did that made people BETTER than they were; poof gone. 

Biden can't be trusted to walk up a flight of stairs, or know which direction to go when the receiving line ends. FFS. 

[thegeneral 2,915]

1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

And Biden can? 

He got in there and signed I don't even know how many Exec Orders in the first 30 days undoing most of what Trump did that made people BETTER than they were; poof gone. 

Biden can't be trusted to walk up a flight of stairs, or know which direction to go when the receiving line ends. FFS. 

Oh here we go.Must deflect from the topic. Take it to the Biden meme thread please. We can discuss in there about how he has ruined your life or whatever.

Stay with me…Trump is being indicted because he is guilty and a sloppy mess.

[RLLD 4,143]

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He had a plan going into the night of the election. Say he won before results were in. From there pressuring states as the president to overturn the results. He pressured the Justice Department to say it was rigged until they all started quitting (that people cry about the “Deep State” with Trump is a nice touch, the ass is just melting down because they won’t do his bidding). He continued to work with nuts in Congress to try and overturn results up until Jan 6th. This is all bullshet and he either knows it or is a lunatic. He still goes on about it constantly.

The office of the Prez has approaching unlimited power. He has proven he can’t be trusted with this. 

If we are speaking about Biden than I would tend to agree, Trump was not without issue but certainly was not as bif of a concern as Joe has been. 

[RLLD 4,143]

34 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What exactly was he guilty of on Jan 6th, other than petulance?  I presume you missed the curated dog and pony show that proved nothing else.   

He is guilty of being an outsider, intent to change the system for better.

Keep in mind....the Democrats even do this to their own.  They actually subjugated Bernie Sanders, for similar reasons.I doubt the policies of Sanders would have amounted to anything more than the destructive outcomes Biden has provided, but he was seen as an outsider.

So, in the true nature of the religion of liberalism, conform or else.  Power is to be centralized into The Party, and opposition is to be silenced and subdued by any means necessary.

Just watch what they now do to Manchin.....

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Judge denies new trial for Rapey Trumpy.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/donald-trump-loses-bid-new-trial-e-jean-carroll-case-2023-07-19/

[thegeneral 2,915]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

He is guilty of being an outsider, intent to change the system for better.

Keep in mind....the Democrats even do this to their own.  They actually subjugated Bernie Sanders, for similar reasons.I doubt the policies of Sanders would have amounted to anything more than the destructive outcomes Biden has provided, but he was seen as an outsider.

So, in the true nature of the religion of liberalism, conform or else.  Power is to be centralized into The Party, and opposition is to be silenced and subdued by any means necessary.

Just watch what they now do to Manchin.....

Politics is a nasty business. It’s largely a popularity contest so make the other person less popular. Shredding political opponents is a long standing tradition. Bush people saying McCain had an illegitimate black child. On and on history is filled with these.

On a side note don’t tell some on here Sanders is an “outsider” he was in the Senate for 40 years they will say.

if say Manchin runs I’d def expect him to get attacked. That wouldn’t be unusual. If he became a threat to a Republicans nom by portraying himself as a conservative I’d even expect :gasp: conservative outlets and politicians to start ripping him a new one. 

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9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If we can be honest about this for a moment, this is a pointed effort arising from Democrats to prevent Trump from being able to run for President, plain and simple, and there is nothing past this factor actually in play here.

Now Trump wants to elongate this thing, because if he is elected he can pardon himself.  Certainly that is a key component in his math.   Conversely, the Democrats want this to be fast. Trump is a threat to their power, and rather than allow Americans to elect what they want, Democrats want to hold exclusive power. Trump WILL resume improvement to the lives of people, and the Democrats fear this emphatically. 

I think the judge will not give either of them entirely what they want. So then it will likely boil down to how well the Trump legal team can foster delay.....and conversely how well the Democrats can avoid those delays.

Now, should it be true that Trump bails out of the election, then all of this would disappear.  I surmise he might be staying in as something of a "fock you" to the powerful.

Yes, let's be honest. Speaking only for myself, he shouldn't be running because he is an autocratic crook that has been the most divisive force in America in my lifetime. He is a threat to this nation. I recognized this when he was campaigning in 2016, but hated Hillary so much I couldn't vote for her. This is not about Donald Trump. It's about what he is willing to do to advance his own agenda, which is personal power and enrichment. He has shown zero indication that he cares about anything other than himself, ever. It's laughable to me that people believe differently. I wouldn't support anyone that acted the way he does, regardless of party affiliation.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,707]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Yes, let's be honest. Speaking only for myself, he shouldn't be running because he is an autocratic crook that has been the most divisive force in America in my lifetime. He is a threat to this nation. I recognized this when he was campaigning in 2016, but hated Hillary so much I couldn't vote for her. This is not about Donald Trump. It's about what he is willing to do to advance his own agenda, which is personal power and enrichment. He has shown zero indication that he cares about anything other than himself, ever. It's laughable to me that people believe differently. I wouldn't support anyone that acted the way he does, regardless of party affiliation.

This is funny.  It’s almost like Trump is the one taking bribes from the Ukraine or using DOJ resources to quell dissent in your world.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,950]

48 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Oh here we go.Must deflect from the topic. Take it to the Biden meme thread please. We can discuss in there about how he has ruined your life or whatever.

Stay with me…Trump is being indicted because he is guilty and a sloppy mess.

Trump is being indicted because he has 75 million votes and counting in his pocket. 

[Fnord 2,051]

11 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

This is funny.  It’s almost like Trump is the one taking bribes from the Ukraine or using DOJ resources to quell dissent in your world.  

Show me where Biden has been impeached or indicted for these activities. Show me solid proof, not right wing talking heads with "whistleblowers" that mysteriously disappear because they're accused of being unregistered Chinese and Iranian agents. Until that happens, you've got nothing to stand on other than right wing fever dreams and the derp derp state.

Also interesting that you mention quelling dissent as if you are opposed to that. Your daddy is openly campaigning on consolidating power under the president to make it easier to... quell dissent! You support that.

I'd acknowledge that this would be difficult for you to accept if I thought there was any chance you would. But keep up the good fight, KD. I still very much enjoy reading your posts, and appreciate that you don't resort to personal attacks to make your points. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,707]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Show me where Biden has been impeached or indicted for these activities. Show me solid proof, not right wing talking heads with "whistleblowers" that mysteriously disappear because they're accused of being unregistered Chinese and Iranian agents. Until that happens, you've got nothing to stand on other than right wing fever dreams and the derp derp state.

Also interesting that you mention quelling dissent as if you are opposed to that. Your daddy is openly campaigning on consolidating power under the president to make it easier to... quell dissent! You support that.

I'd acknowledge that this would be difficult for you to accept if I thought there was any chance you would. But keep up the good fight, KD. I still very much enjoy reading your posts, and appreciate that you don't resort to personal attacks to make your points. 

Hunter Biden’s laptop?

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16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump is being indicted because he has 75 million votes and counting in his pocket. 

Sure, he starts at 75 million and starts countin DOWN. No way he gets that many votes again. Besides, voter fraud was never investigated in the states Trump won. Those states probably cheated.

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Hunter Biden’s laptop?

No one GAF about Hunter Biden except those that need to deflect impropriety away from your daddy Trump. If Hunter is indicted, most will cheer it on, dems and libs included. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,707]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

No one GAF about Hunter Biden except those that need to deflect impropriety away from your daddy Trump. If Hunter is indicted, most will cheer it on, dems and libs included. 

The evidence on his laptop is pretty damning to the Big Guy. No?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,950]

42 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Politics is a nasty business. It’s largely a popularity contest so make the other person less popular. Shredding political opponents is a long standing tradition. Bush people saying McCain had an illegitimate black child. On and on history is filled with these.

On a side note don’t tell some on here Sanders is an “outsider” he was in the Senate for 40 years they will say.

if say Manchin runs I’d def expect him to get attacked. That wouldn’t be unusual. If he became a threat to a Republicans nom by portraying himself as a conservative I’d even expect :gasp: conservative outlets and politicians to start ripping him a new one. 

Bernie Sanders is an independent and identifies as a socialist. Any other Senators do that? Think you can smarten up some time soon if you’re going to post this much? 

[Fnord 2,051]

4 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The evidence on his laptop is pretty damning to the Big Guy. No?

No. Ron Johnson himself claimed there was no smoking gun evidence on Hunter's laptop. Hunter may very well be a crook that deserves jail time, I don't know or care. My understanding is that the evidence points to some questionable stuff, but nowhere near enough to criminally incriminate Joe Biden. And if it turns out I'm wrong, I will happily call for Biden to be impeached and removed from office. 

 

[RLLD 4,143]

53 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Politics is a nasty business. It’s largely a popularity contest so make the other person less popular. Shredding political opponents is a long standing tradition. Bush people saying McCain had an illegitimate black child. On and on history is filled with these.

On a side note don’t tell some on here Sanders is an “outsider” he was in the Senate for 40 years they will say.

if say Manchin runs I’d def expect him to get attacked. That wouldn’t be unusual. If he became a threat to a Republicans nom by portraying himself as a conservative I’d even expect :gasp: conservative outlets and politicians to start ripping him a new one. 

A reasoned post IMHO

[RLLD 4,143]

50 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Yes, let's be honest. Speaking only for myself, he shouldn't be running because he is an autocratic crook that has been the most divisive force in America in my lifetime. He is a threat to this nation. I recognized this when he was campaigning in 2016, but hated Hillary so much I couldn't vote for her. This is not about Donald Trump. It's about what he is willing to do to advance his own agenda, which is personal power and enrichment. He has shown zero indication that he cares about anything other than himself, ever. It's laughable to me that people believe differently. I wouldn't support anyone that acted the way he does, regardless of party affiliation.

I think you mistake savvy business acumen for crookery, but I will allow that he is unsavory.  And as I have stated in the past, I have the experience of serving under a variety of leaders, and in battle where my life was on the line.  I prefer the effective, if unsavory, leader over the nice guy who screws things up.

I doubt I would like Donald Trump at all if I actually met him.  But....if he implements policies that improve the lives of most of the citizens then it does not matter what I think of him as a person. 

Moreover, if even a fraction of the accountability applied to Trump were remotely applied to Biden I would be perfectly satisfied.  But between the two....I cannot be sure right now who is the more corrupt or "bad", other than Biden implements really stupid policies that have predicatable outcomes....that he first denies, then tries to pretend away....and then blames others....

In terms of "leadership" he might be one of the worst I have ever seen....

[Gepetto 1,291]

44 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Show me where Biden has been impeached or indicted for these activities. Show me solid proof, not right wing talking heads with "whistleblowers" that mysteriously disappear because they're accused of being unregistered Chinese and Iranian agents. Until that happens, you've got nothing to stand on other than right wing fever dreams and the derp derp state.

Also interesting that you mention quelling dissent as if you are opposed to that. Your daddy is openly campaigning on consolidating power under the president to make it easier to... quell dissent! You support that.

I'd acknowledge that this would be difficult for you to accept if I thought there was any chance you would. But keep up the good fight, KD. I still very much enjoy reading your posts, and appreciate that you don't resort to personal attacks to make your points. 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/57

[jerryskids 6,573]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

He had a plan going into the night of the election. Say he won before results were in. From there pressuring states as the president to overturn the results. He pressured the Justice Department to say it was rigged until they all started quitting (that people cry about the “Deep State” with Trump is a nice touch, the ass is just melting down because they won’t do his bidding). He continued to work with nuts in Congress to try and overturn results up until Jan 6th. This is all bullshet and he either knows it or is a lunatic. He still goes on about it constantly.

The office of the Prez has approaching unlimited power. He has proven he can’t be trusted with this. 

When I hear Jan 6th, I think of the selfie fest errr... insurrection, worse than the Civil War%$@!  Nothing he did was illegal there and he will never be indicted for anything that day.

I've long said that the most egregious and potentially illegal thing he did was that phone call to the Georgia SOS.  I'd be fine if he were indicted for that.

The NY indictment was so pathetic it was both laughable and sad. 

For the documents, they could easily arrest Biden as well, but of course they won't.  Instead they made a Venn diagram of the two scenarios, highlighted the part unique to Trump, and indicted him on that alone, so that they could have plausible deniability for ignoring Biden.

[squistion 1,955]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

When I hear Jan 6th, I think of the selfie fest errr... insurrection, worse than the Civil War%$@!  Nothing he did was illegal there and he will never be indicted for anything that day.

I've long said that the most egregious and potentially illegal thing he did was that phone call to the Georgia SOS.  I'd be fine if he were indicted for that.

The NY indictment was so pathetic it was both laughable and sad. 

For the documents, they could easily arrest Biden as well, but of course they won't.  Instead they made a Venn diagram of the two scenarios, highlighted the part unique to Trump, and indicted him on that alone, so that they could have plausible deniability for ignoring Biden.

Do you miss the news that Trump says he received a letter saying he's a target of DOJ's Jan. 6 investigation?

Looks like he is going to be indicted for something by Jack Smith connected with the Jan 6 insurrection. 

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/18/1188280401/trump-jan-6-letter

[jerryskids 6,573]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Do you miss the news that Trump says he received a letter saying he's a target of DOJ's Jan. 6 investigation?

Looks like he is going to be indicted for something by Jack Smith connected with the Jan 6 insurrection. 

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/18/1188280401/trump-jan-6-letter

Fair enough.  I should have said something more along the lines of "nothing he did that day would be criminal in a first world country, but in the banana republic that our law enforcement has become with respect to Trump, I'm sure they'll find something."   

[MDC 7,136]

I love this idea that Trump is an a-hole but that’s the price you pay for his very special policies. As if tax cuts, corporate deregulation and deficit spending are innovative ideas. The man is basically Jeb Bush but a much bigger ass hole. 

[Mike Honcho 5,106]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

He had a plan going into the night of the election. Say he won before results were in. From there pressuring states as the president to overturn the results. He pressured the Justice Department to say it was rigged until they all started quitting (that people cry about the “Deep State” with Trump is a nice touch, the ass is just melting down because they won’t do his bidding). He continued to work with nuts in Congress to try and overturn results up until Jan 6th. This is all bullshet and he either knows it or is a lunatic. He still goes on about it constantly.

The office of the Prez has approaching unlimited power. He has proven he can’t be trusted with this. 

 

58 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

When I hear Jan 6th, I think of the selfie fest errr... insurrection, worse than the Civil War%$@!  Nothing he did was illegal there and he will never be indicted for anything that day.

I've long said that the most egregious and potentially illegal thing he did was that phone call to the Georgia SOS.  I'd be fine if he were indicted for that.

The NY indictment was so pathetic it was both laughable and sad. 

For the documents, they could easily arrest Biden as well, but of course they won't.  Instead they made a Venn diagram of the two scenarios, highlighted the part unique to Trump, and indicted him on that alone, so that they could have plausible deniability for ignoring Biden.

 

43 minutes ago, squistion said:

Do you miss the news that Trump says he received a letter saying he's a target of DOJ's Jan. 6 investigation?

Looks like he is going to be indicted for something by Jack Smith connected with the Jan 6 insurrection. 

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/18/1188280401/trump-jan-6-letter

The next indictment(so-called J6 one) will have more to do with the fake elector scam then anything, which looks to have been coordinated out of the Oval office. 

Charges probably around conspiracy to defraud the federal government, obstruction, forgery. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

Wow. The TDS is going strong in here.

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

Wow. The TDS is going strong in here.

It's awesome! 

[Fnord 2,051]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/57

Uh huh. How's that going for MTG? She getting any traction on this initiative? Or is it just a ridiculous political ploy?

[seafoam1 2,803]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Uh huh. How's that going for MTG? She getting any traction on this initiative? Or is it just a ridiculous political ploy?

This focking weenie is really triggered. 

[League Champion 1,896]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Do you miss the news

Rake Face Tranny lover says what?