RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: So the laptop of a crackhead that never mentions Biden nor has any direct evidence is now evidence? And pray tell how do we know Biden is the big guy? Because of one throw away sentence? Just LOL Glad to see the laptop is no longer "Russian Disinformation". On that one we are left with two possibilities, the DOJ is inept or the DOJ is corrupt, based on the way they rapidly moved to defend Biden from it. You might want to continue to discredit the laptop, but given teh complex LLC setups it listed and which have been corroborated, you might want to reconsider. Now, if a Trump kid had a laptop like that......are you going to suggest you would defend Trump from its contents? I think not...... and nor shold you. SO we have multiple sources of evidence now, all lining up to demonstrate Biden is a typical corrupt politician....that we do not assail this in chorus is telling. Instead of defending a politician, any of them. you should be demanding investigations on them. all of them.....they all need to be watched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, RLLD said: Glad to see the laptop is no longer "Russian Disinformation". On that one we are left with two possibilities, the DOJ is inept or the DOJ is corrupt, based on the way they rapidly moved to defend Biden from it. You might want to continue to discredit the laptop, but given teh complex LLC setups it listed and which have been corroborated, you might want to reconsider. Now, if a Trump kid had a laptop like that......are you going to suggest you would defend Trump from its contents? I think not...... and nor shold you. SO we have multiple sources of evidence now, all lining up to demonstrate Biden is a typical corrupt politician....that we do not assail this in chorus is telling. Instead of defending a politician, any of them. you should be demanding investigations on them. all of them.....they all need to be watched. What evidence does the laptop have that points to Biden? Are you hanging your entire argument on a reference to the big guy? Surely there's actual mention of Biden and his involvement in some crime. Right? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 13, 2023 To be fair, MSM isn't reporting it so Wade Ravens Fan has no idea what you're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: To be fair, MSM isn't reporting it so Wade Ravens Fan has no idea what you're talking about. I'm not sure why you keep linking me to this Ravens Fan guy. I really really hope he's not one of your gay lovers...that'd be super icky. But you can aware me. What direct links does the laptop have to Joe Biden? The big guy comment? Surly there's more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,205 Posted June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: It is disappointing the Republicans are not starting the impeachment process. I hate they refuse to play dirty like the Democrats. This is a lot worse than the Trump Ukraine phone call. Articles of impeachment were filed against Biden and Harris today. Not sure if they'll go anywhere but at least someone is trying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: I'm not sure why you keep linking me to this Ravens Fan guy. I really really hope he's not one of your gay lovers...that'd be super icky. But you can aware me. What direct links does the laptop have to Joe Biden? The big guy comment? Surly there's more than that. To remind you what a loser you are no matter who you pretend to be, James. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Strike said: Articles of impeachment were filed against Biden and Harris today. Not sure if they'll go anywhere but at least someone is trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 13, 2023 Impeachment sites the FD–1023 and the Burisma $5,000,000. Includes Harris for not securing the boarder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: What evidence does the laptop have that points to Biden? Are you hanging your entire argument on a reference to the big guy? Surely there's actual mention of Biden and his involvement in some crime. Right? I have already stated, and in this instance the laptop was not fabricated by the Clinton campaign, so that is a bonus. The DOj did not have to fake anything on this one, though they did try to discredit the entire thing. If we can go after Trump with the flimsy nonsense from the Clinton dossier, we can certainly go after Biden with the credible contents associated with the laptop, and the other evidence gathered that corroborates it. I am rather dismayed that anyone would stand up for any politician, I mean, what the fock has happened to this society? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Articles of impeachment were filed against Biden and Harris today. Not sure if they'll go anywhere but at least someone is trying. I am less enthusiastic about this. I do not want to continue the misuse of impeachment as a tool against political adversaries, and I am concerned it is happening again here. I expect to see more evidence than we presently have to suggest impeachment is warranted. This is overreach IMHO. Unless......unless....... they do have evidence that they simply have not yet shared. And also, why the fock is Harris included? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am less enthusiastic about this. I do not want to continue the misuse of impeachment as a tool against political adversaries, and I am concerned it is happening again here. I expect to see more evidence than we presently have to suggest impeachment is warranted. This is overreach IMHO. Unless......unless....... they do have evidence that they simply have not yet shared. And also, why the fock is Harris included? weve been trying to go the high road for decades and were just getting rolled. thats the entire point of electing trump, a champion who will fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: I have already stated, and in this instance the laptop was not fabricated by the Clinton campaign, so that is a bonus. The DOj did not have to fake anything on this one, though they did try to discredit the entire thing. If we can go after Trump with the flimsy nonsense from the Clinton dossier, we can certainly go after Biden with the credible contents associated with the laptop, and the other evidence gathered that corroborates it. I am rather dismayed that anyone would stand up for any politician, I mean, what the fock has happened to this society? Can you give me an example of what you consider credible contents associated with the laptop? What does the laptop say about Biden's role? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: weve been trying to go the high road for decades and were just getting rolled. thats the entire point of electing trump, a champion who will fight. I understand, I rally do, and I get it......but.....when it comes to this, when it comes to impeachment....we should always take the high road, no matter what.....sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Can you give me an example of what you consider credible contents associated with the laptop? What does the laptop say about Biden's role? I beleive Tony Bobulinski when he asserts that Joe is "the big guy", and it makes sense. If you are looking at this logically it adds up, and it does so to a sufficient level to justify a hard core investigation. We managed to do it to Trump, now I want to see more politicians held to account, if this were done we might be able to clense some of the corruption out of government. It would be good for all of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,205 Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I beleive Tony Bobulinski when he asserts that Joe is "the big guy", and it makes sense. If you are looking at this logically it adds up, and it does so to a sufficient level to justify a hard core investigation. We managed to do it to Trump, now I want to see more politicians held to account, if this were done we might be able to clense some of the corruption out of government. It would be good for all of us. They have other documentation that specifically refers to Joe as the Big Guy. It's corroborated multiple ways. It's not just Bobulinski's word. https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/hunter-bidens-biz-partner-called-joe-biden-the-big-guy-in-panic-over-laptop/ https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/joe-biden-referred-big-guy-dealings-with-ukraine-china-fbi-record Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,913 Posted June 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: weve been trying to go the high road for decades and were just getting rolled. thats the entire point of electing trump, a champion who will fight. High road? GTFO Your former president, the guy who doesn't understand or doesn’t care about basic laws, norms, etc got on the political scene by claiming Obama wasn’t born here and it resonated with all the racists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Strike said: They have other documentation that specifically refers to Joe as the Big Guy. It's corroborated multiple ways. It's not just Bobulinski's word. Agree. I presume that nothing presented will satisfy, no amount of evidence will result in any understanding or agreement. People who align themselves with politics cannot allow their politics or politcians to be anything less than perfect. We see this happen to all people, regardless of party, whereby their sense of value and place is tied directly to politics and the poltiical players....and so they defend these clowns as if they were defending themselves.....its sorta sick..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: I beleive Tony Bobulinski when he asserts that Joe is "the big guy", and it makes sense. If you are looking at this logically it adds up, and it does so to a sufficient level to justify a hard core investigation. We managed to do it to Trump, now I want to see more politicians held to account, if this were done we might be able to clense some of the corruption out of government. It would be good for all of us. So nothing on the laptop links Joe to anything by name? You're willing to put forward a full investigation over some random big guy comment? And before you compare it to Russia, remember that Trump's main goons met with supposed Russian agents to get dirt on HIllary. Then he lied about it repeatedly. Also remember that Bannon gave private polling info to a Russian spy. But you're going to take a single reference to the big guy as solid enough evidence to investigate huh? Can you share the documents that specifically state the Joe Biden is the big guy and the big guy is somehow involved in crimes. tia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: So nothing on the laptop links Joe to anything by name? You're willing to put forward a full investigation over some random big guy comment? And before you compare it to Russia, remember that Trump's main goons met with supposed Russian agents to get dirt on HIllary. Then he lied about it repeatedly. Also remember that Bannon gave private polling info to a Russian spy. But you're going to take a single reference to the big guy as solid enough evidence to investigate huh? Can you share the documents that specifically state the Joe Biden is the big guy and the big guy is somehow involved in crimes. tia You're willing to put forward a full investigation over some random big guy comment? I most assuredly am. in order to stay pphilosophically honest I actually need to since I supported the investigation of Trump with the dossier. To now decide to not support such a move would be wrong. I leave it to you to pretend Biden is not involved, to wait for some magical instance where everything can be tied together without an actual investigation. SO How about this, the DOJ does the same thing to investigate Biden as they did to investigate Trump? If they find nothing there, then we know for sure, we are all good. What is the harm? Why is the DOJ so resistant to look into this instance and this President, when they have more information and information that is being both confirmed and corroborated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: Agree. I presume that nothing presented will satisfy, no amount of evidence will result in any understanding or agreement. People who align themselves with politics cannot allow their politics or politcians to be anything less than perfect. We see this happen to all people, regardless of party, whereby their sense of value and place is tied directly to politics and the poltiical players....and so they defend these clowns as if they were defending themselves.....its sorta sick..... You haven’t presented any evidence though. A couple of guys claiming “Big Guy” means something is NOT evidence. You know that, right? It’s hearsay... at BEST. But we know that it’s not even that. It’s highly unreliable sources saying crazy stuff that for some reason you choose to believe. Also, the right loves to paper over the fact that all this “big guy” nonsense is in relation to a deal that never actually happened. You could read the actual facts here, but come on... we know you won’t. Just bask in your ignorance and your assuredness that Biden is a criminal, no evidence needed. https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/29/tony-bobulinski-hunter-biden-and-china-explainer/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, dogcows said: You haven’t presented any evidence though. A couple of guys claiming “Big Guy” means something is NOT evidence. You know that, right? It’s hearsay... at BEST. But we know that it’s not even that. It’s highly unreliable sources saying crazy stuff that for some reason you choose to believe. Also, the right loves to paper over the fact that all this “big guy” nonsense is in relation to a deal that never actually happened. You could read the actual facts here, but come on... we know you won’t. Just bask in your ignorance and your assuredness that Biden is a criminal, no evidence needed. https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/oct/29/tony-bobulinski-hunter-biden-and-china-explainer/ I have presented more evidence than what was available when the DOJ investigated Trump. All I ask, is that the DOJ take action as they did with Trump, this is not some extravagant ask. I am struggling to understand why you would defend the powerful from investigation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,205 Posted June 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I have presented more evidence than what was available when the DOJ investigated Trump. All I ask, is that the DOJ take action as they did with Trump, this is not some extravagant ask. I am struggling to understand why you would defend the powerful from investigation. Seriously? Have you EVER, even ONCE, seen a post from Dogsh*t that questioned his "team?" Dude is a loyal soldier and will fall on the sword. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: I have presented more evidence than what was available when the DOJ investigated Trump. No, you haven’t. However, Hunter Biden is, in fact, being investigated. So... what are you asking for exactly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,484 Posted June 13, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 6:17 PM, Wade Garrett said: Now cultist believe unnamed informants? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Oh the irony. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, dogcows said: No, you haven’t. However, Hunter Biden is, in fact, being investigated. So... what are you asking for exactly? Yes I have, and in fact what I have noted we have physical evidence for. So if we then refer to the standard as it was used for Trump, we have effectively more evidence..... My ask is simple. Hold power accountable. I think they did a marvelous job as it pertains to Trump, give me more of that. And when they are done with Biden, go get mcConnell, and then Pelosi, and then McCarthy.....get them all until we wring the corruption out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted June 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Strike said: Seriously? Have you EVER, even ONCE, seen a post from Dogsh*t that questioned his "team?" Dude is a loyal soldier and will fall on the sword. Yeah I’m done. We’re arguing with people who get their news from MSNBC and DailyKos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted June 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Yeah I’m done. We’re arguing with people who get their news from MSNBC and DailyKos. Don’t have cable and don’t know what the 2nd is. Maybe I should check it out. If it’s the opposite of what you think, it’s probably good… Update: yeah looks like a fun site - https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/6/13/2175177/-Fox-News-announces-Melania-Trump-s-arrival-at-the-courthouse-and-it-isn-t-Melania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,944 Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, dogcows said: False. Just plain false. Like you, I’ve seen the evidence trotted out by GOP lawmakers and it’s evidence of nothing. But they know you hate Biden so you’ll believe whatever they say. The GOP trotted out evidence? Duh. It’s not the GOP’s evidence. It’s the FBI’s. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted June 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yes I have, and in fact what I have noted we have physical evidence for. So if we then refer to the standard as it was used for Trump, we have effectively more evidence..... My ask is simple. Hold power accountable. I think they did a marvelous job as it pertains to Trump, give me more of that. And when they are done with Biden, go get mcConnell, and then Pelosi, and then McCarthy.....get them all until we wring the corruption out of it. The laptop is physical evidence of what though? That’s the entire point. Your pile of in a toilet is physical evidence of what you ate for lunch. But how is it relevant to anything else? Which is the point. Nothing from the laptop has shown any evidence of illegal activity by Joe Biden. How about instead of “going after power” - we only investigate people if there’s legitimate evidence? They’ve been digging for any hard evidence of Joe Biden being corrupt for years… and still have nothing. Way past time to move on. Right now their strategy is to sift through discarded old FBI files for unverified intel and pretend that it’s “new evidence.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, dogcows said: The laptop is physical evidence of what though? That’s the entire point. Your pile of in a toilet is physical evidence of what you ate for lunch. But how is it relevant to anything else? Which is the point. Nothing from the laptop has shown any evidence of illegal activity by Joe Biden. How about instead of “going after power” - we only investigate people if there’s legitimate evidence? They’ve been digging for any hard evidence of Joe Biden being corrupt for years… and still have nothing. Way past time to move on. Right now their strategy is to sift through discarded old FBI files for unverified intel and pretend that it’s “new evidence.” No thanks, I prefer the Trump model of go after them period, evidence be damned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,944 Posted June 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,099 Posted June 13, 2023 Pretty incredible what the Biden's have gotten away with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, RLLD said: No thanks, I prefer the Trump model of go after them period, evidence be damned. Ok let's start. Did Trump's goons meet with supposed russian agents for dirt on hillary. Yes or no Did Bannon working for Trump give private polling info to a russian spy. Yes or no Any of those are miles beyond a "big guy" reference that no one really knows on some crackheads laptop. Facts not feelz boyo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Ok let's start. Did Trump's goons meet with supposed russian agents for dirt on hillary. Yes or no Did Bannon working for Trump give private polling info to a russian spy. Yes or no Any of those are miles beyond a "big guy" reference that no one really knows on some crackheads laptop. Facts not feelz boyo. If you're still referencing laptop emails you probably ought to educate yourself on the more recent evidence. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: If you're still referencing laptop emails you probably ought to educate yourself on the more recent evidence. HTH We got bank records with Biden's name on them? Maybe some taped phone calls? A picture of him wearing "The Big Guy" shirt? Whatcha got boyo? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted June 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: We got bank records with Biden's name on them? Maybe some taped phone calls? A picture of him wearing "The Big Guy" shirt? Whatcha got boyo? The first two yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,944 Posted June 14, 2023 The FBI is obviously covering for Biden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted June 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Ok let's start. Did Trump's goons meet with supposed russian agents for dirt on hillary. Yes or no Did Bannon working for Trump give private polling info to a russian spy. Yes or no Any of those are miles beyond a "big guy" reference that no one really knows on some crackheads laptop. Facts not feelz boyo. You misunderstand, I have no issue with Trump beiung held to account, that is the desire. Now I want Biden also held to account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,099 Posted June 14, 2023 Unreal, how deep does the corruption go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites