BlackRock Recruiter - US Senator Influence Can Be "Bought" ($$ Hillary "Lockheed" Clinton $$)

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I think people give politicians money all the time, pay 50k to eat dinner in a Hyatt ballroom with them, they fly SC Justices around, pay for their vacays, etc.

To say you are buying one with a check is kind of simplifying the situation to get people to click on the video. Kind of that O’Keefe dudes shtick.

I see, so its true that it happens, but this admission on the part of this individual does not seem credible because its too low of a bribe. I might be able to get behind that.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

It ain’t just money. It’s jobs, inside information, admission to Ivy League schools for family.  All four of Al Gores kids got into Harvard. I’d like to see the odds on that. Hunter Biden, who has shown himself to be an idiot of epic proportions, Yale and Georgetown.  

[thegeneral 2,889]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I see, so its true that it happens, but this admission on the part of this individual does not seem credible because its too low of a bribe. I might be able to get behind that.

I’d say Serge Varley is likely a dope trying to sound cool or get laid. But yeah money is definitely influential in politics. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I’d say Serge Varley is likely a dope trying to sound cool or get laid. But yeah money is definitely influential in politics. 

It cannot be discounted.  Though it could be true that some are being bought for that amount, lesser members that is. 

[thegeneral 2,889]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It cannot be discounted.  Though it could be true that some are being bought for that amount, lesser members that is. 

10k can’t buy a used Prius. Call me skeptical it gets you much in out political system. Now enough people with 10k together perhaps

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, thegeneral said:

10k can’t buy a used Prius. Call me skeptical it gets you much in out political system. Now enough people with 10k together perhaps

The ease with which you dismiss this is disconcerting. But it also shows why it is so easily done.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

Libtards like powerful billionaires now, that buy and sell our government as they see fit. I’m old enough to remember when they were outraged at that. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards like powerful billionaires now, that buy and sell our government as they see fit. I’m old enough to remember when they were outraged at that. 

Republicans don't do the same? GTFO.

[thegeneral 2,889]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The ease with which you dismiss this is disconcerting. But it also shows why it is so easily done.

I don’t really think I’m dismissing it, rather not really shocked by the idea that money influences people. I find it kind of laughable that 10k would be enough to influence a politician seeing as people hand this amount to these guys a lot. 

What would you do about political donations?

 

[RLLD 4,143]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I don’t really think I’m dismissing it, rather not really shocked by the idea that money influences people. I find it kind of laughable that 10k would be enough to influence a politician seeing as people hand this amount to these guys a lot. 

What would you do about political donations?

 

I would like to see the Trump-treatment extended to all politicians.  Give me that and we are all good.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

40 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Republicans don't do the same? GTFO.

Of course they do. Did I say they didn’t? Thanks again, Strawman. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

31 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would like to see the Trump-treatment extended to all politicians.  Give me that and we are all good.

That would be awesome. Imagine a Trump kid not paying taxes and committing a federal firearms offense? 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Of course they do. Did I say they didn’t? Thanks again, Strawman. 

Uneducated mall cop doesn't know what a straw man is 

[Cdub100 3,825]

Is this common knowledge?

Yu can buy ambassadorships government positions etc... 

How is this even news?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Uneducated mall cop doesn't know what a straw man is 

Highly educated, whatever it is you do (not much) is mr Literal now, after continually crying about it. You get the drift. 

[Baker Boy 1,687]

1. It’s not happening 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

4 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

@Blue HorseshoeWhat can be done to change this or is it hopeless?

 

Simplest solution ( via Constitutional Amendment), in the most theoretical sense, is to 

1) Every member of Congress, put full time 365/24/7 cameras on that that upload and livestream into the internet. Accessible to anyone. Privacy only for bathrooms and private bedrooms at home. Full transparency in all audio calls, video calls and electronic communications excepting matters of national security. In effect, every Senator has to wear multiple body cams all day long. 

2) Every week, all cable stations, all streaming services and all network TV stations are required to spend two prime time hours to air "footage"  The RNC can curate Team Blue footage for one hour. The DNC can curate GOP footage for one hour. Every other week, the order of viewing flips. 

3) Naturally both the RNC and DNC will pay "spotters" to comb through every last piece of footage looking for scandal or corruption. They can air their case for any member of Congress within their allotted hour each week. If you get into a scandal, it's going to much harder to hide. 

4) Constitutional Amendment that requires a balanced budget and 100 percent participation in voting. "Present" is no longer accepted. You vote "Yes" or "No" on any bill. If either condition is not met, that member of Congress loses their annual salary and is fined 10 times whatever their current salary base is for that year. 

5) Financial fraud committed by any member of Congress is now a capital offense. You get the death penalty. Steal even one campaign dollar, you are executed. Former Governor Kate Brown paid to update her law license with tax dollars. She did it because she knew no one could stop her. 

This can be applied to any Cabinet member or Ambassador as well. Governors too. Mayors of major cities. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Take away the privacy of all high level government officials and you'll see changes. 

Under the current system, I don't see any practical fix. 

IMHO, a full blown military coup is inevitable. If you were a high ranking military general, and your personal politics leaned Conservative, would you want to take orders from an Obama or a Clinton or a Biden? Or if something happens to Biden, then Harris? Getting dragged into more wars and being told you need to send good young American servicemen to die? If your politics leaned liberal or leftist, would you want to take orders from Donald Trump or George W Bush? 

Recorded human history has shown us that when you have a powerful military and a cascading breakdown of the civilian government, eventually the military decides to purge the political class. The idea of civilians staging an insurrection that would be effective is not reality. However tanks in the streets and platoons of troops rounding up Senators and their families is not that far fetched. 

The one last ditch "hedge" that's possible, is if someone like Elon Musk created a new device, basically the new IPhone but better and more robust, that he built and supported and gave away for free to all Americans. In exchange, they would be required to view any content that Musk wanted to put on the device in exchange for the "free device/free support/free service" This would be paired with his own internal news/information service. This would be a way to get news and information outside the activist MSM to all Americans. Once informed, and with a consistent delivery system, you'd have "high information voters"  A mass of high information voters, especially the working class, is Kryptonite to corrupt politicians. 

However if Musk tried that, he would be assassinated. Musk is only alive now because he's invaluable to the Military Industrial Complex. But even they would turn on him if he wanted to create a pathway to expose their own corruption in high level government. 

A military coup is the most likely path. 

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

I have a decent amount invested with/through Black Rock. I wonder which Senator(s) I own?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

Simplest solution ( via Constitutional Amendment), in the most theoretical sense, is to 

1) Every member of Congress, put full time 365/24/7 cameras on that that upload and livestream into the internet......

A military coup is the most likely path. 

LOL'ed at the first line, skipped all the way to the bottom to military coup

BH vying for worst poster here.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

I have a decent amount invested with/through Black Rock. I wonder which Senator(s) I own?

Schumer and Gillibrand for sure. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

LOL'ed at the first line, skipped all the way to the bottom to military coup

BH vying for worst poster here.

 

 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 6/22/2023 at 9:44 AM, GutterBoy said:

LOL'ed at the first line, skipped all the way to the bottom to military coup

BH vying for worst poster here.

 

 

Climate activists rally outside Schumer’s home, demand ‘clean’ budget deal

.....Hundreds of environmental activists gathered outside Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s home in Park Slope on Tuesday evening to protest the pol’s link to fossil fuel donors, and to oppose the inclusion of a controversial natural gas pipeline in the legislature’s hotly-debated budget deal.....As part of the months-long negotiations over the bill, the Republican-controlled House agreed to a deal with the President and the Democratic-controlled Senate that will green-light a massive fossil fuel project, called the Mountain Valley Pipeline that runs through Virginia and West Virginia.

Sen. Joe Manchin, a conservative Democrat from West Virginia, who has pushed in favor of the project, reportedly secured the approval, as his vote is key in the upper legislative chamber, where Democrats hold the majority by a slim margin. ....Environmentalists say the provision would speed up the construction of the $6.6 billion pipeline, which is planned to carry two billion cubic feet of fracked gas per day, mostly for export.....“Any deal that holds the economy and climate hostage for the profit of dirty energy donors is a betrayal,” said Food & Water Watch Senior New York Organizer Eric Weltman. “Senator Schumer must pass a clean debt bill without fossil fuel giveaways.”

 The 300-mile pipeline would run over nearly 1,000 streams and wetlands and would lead to annual emissions of over 89 million metric tons of carbon dioxide, equivalent to 26 coal plants or 19 million cars, according to Oil Change International, a research and data-managing advocacy organization that is pro-transition to clean energy.....The bill orders federal agencies to issue permits for the project and says courts can’t review them. ....According to The New Republic, Schumer is the single largest recipient of funds from NextEra Energy, one of the companies that owns the pipeline. NextEra has been Schumer’s second-largest donor this year and has donated more than $280,000 to the senator so far. 

“The inclusion of the Mountain Valley Pipeline, a private commercial venture, at the behest of a single wealthy Senator reek of corruption....Not only are pipeline permits irrelevant to the issue of the debt ceiling but putting this specific pipeline outside the jurisdiction of the courts is a scandal. And Chuck Schumer is complicit.”  ....Manchin, the pipeline’s biggest supporter, has also benefited from dealing with fossil fuel companies and energy giants. In the 2022 cycle, NextEra’s employees and political action committees gave $60,350 to Manchin, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

https://www.brooklynpaper.com/climate-activists-chuck-schumer-budget-deal/

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[Blue Horseshoe 348]

On 6/22/2023 at 9:44 AM, GutterBoy said:

LOL'ed at the first line, skipped all the way to the bottom to military coup

BH vying for worst poster here.

 

 

Hillary’s Friendly Skies: Air Lockheed

....Has former lefty pinup Hillary Clinton become the senator from Lockheed Martin? According to the senator’s travel-expense forms, unearthed by the Center for Public Integrity, the senator and her aides have taken free rides on a Lockheed-owned private plane at least five times since 2001. The Lockheed jet isn’t exactly Air Force One, but it certainly has saved time and airfare costs during the Armed Services Committee member’s successful efforts to get Lockheed defense contracts, notably a $1.7 billion, 750-job deal to build presidential helicopters up in Owego (population 3,911), near Binghamton....

......Last year, Lockheed’s PAC gave Clinton the maximum $5,000 donation, a first since Clinton became senator, but its generosity didn’t start there. In July 2004, Clinton and her personal aide, Huma Abedin, boarded a Lockheed jet at Dulles and zipped up to Troy for the day with the Italian ambassador to the U.S., Sergio Vento, for the first-ever New York State Little Italy Heritage Tourism Conference. After the full-day affair, Clinton zipped back down to Teterboro, New Jersey, on Lockheed’s jet. The trip, labeled on disclosure forms as a “speaking engagement,” was paid for by Lockheed, even though Senate ethics rules mandate that a primary sponsor of the event pony up. Jennifer Hanley, a Clinton rep, insists no ethical breaches were made, explaining that Clinton and Lockheed share the same goal—bringing jobs upstate—and that Lockheed’s free lift to Troy was made in that spirit..... 

Of course, by 2003, Hillary was a Senator and a staunch supporter of the Iraq War, which has cost the US trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, and done more to create ISIS and Middle East instability than any other single decision of modern foreign policy. In defending her vote, Hillary parroted the phony propaganda of the CIA: "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members... "

https://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/17339/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-is-the-candidate_b_9168938

[jonmx 2,424]

On 6/22/2023 at 8:22 AM, GutterBoy said:

No, it's a problem for all parties.  However I will point out that republicans have fought against campaign finance reform and conservative judges have supported their fight.  Both parties are corrupt but at least democrats (and some republicans going back to John McCain) give the appearance of trying to limit corruption whereas the republicans revel in it.

That is because the campaign finance reform was to shut up little voices, not the big ones.   The big boys could still control their messaging and influence through ownership of media outlets and illegal contributions.   It was only small groups like Citizen United who were muzzled.  It was terrible legislation.  

The corruption of our government is built in inside the unchecked massive power of the bureaucracies.  Controlling independant speech only makes it worse.  This is not rocket science.    Our government has outgrown the system of checks and balances in our Constitution.