Golf rules question

[Alias Detective 1,389]

I just watched JT place the tee and ball into the ground on the tee box.  He then used his club to pound the the ball and tee into the ground.  I think he hit it twice.  Was that considered strokes in the past or was it never considered strokes?

[edjr 6,578]

4 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

I just watched JT place the tee and ball into the ground on the tee box.  He then used his club to pound the the ball and tee into the ground.  I think he hit it twice.  Was that considered strokes in the past or was it never considered strokes?

If you tee the ball up and then knock it off during your waggle or practice, it is not a stroke either. 

[bostonlager 2,664]

You have to have intent to take an actual stroke. 

[edjr 6,578]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

You have to have intent to take an actual stroke. 

Now you're talking  

[thegeneral 2,913]

Probably doesn’t matter…JT been on the struggle bus lately!

[Cruzer 1,995]

Zach Johnson damn near made a habit out of it. 

 

 

 

 

[supermike80 1,804]

Here's one that happened last week.  We were watching the group ahead of us in our league.   Guy lined up, swung, and his ball hit the 150 stake about 30 yards in front of him, it richoched off and went dead left into the water.   I told him that was a free drop from the same place.  Was I wrong?

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

[Alias Detective 1,389]

39 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Here's one that happened last week.  We were watching the group ahead of us in our league.   Guy lined up, swung, and his ball hit the 150 stake about 30 yards in front of him, it richoched off and went dead left into the water.   I told him that was a free drop from the same place.  Was I wrong?

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

Was their skin on the match?

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

Here's one that happened last week.  We were watching the group ahead of us in our league.   Guy lined up, swung, and his ball hit the 150 stake about 30 yards in front of him, it richoched off and went dead left into the water.   I told him that was a free drop from the same place.  Was I wrong?

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

When I golfed on my high school team, a kid from another school hit one of the tee blocks from the women's tee in front of us.  The block came of of the ground, flew up in the air about 15ft and landed back in the ground.  His ball flew off to the left and landed on the next hole's green.  It was hilarious.

[shadrap 220]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Here's one that happened last week.  We were watching the group ahead of us in our league.   Guy lined up, swung, and his ball hit the 150 stake about 30 yards in front of him, it richoched off and went dead left into the water.   I told him that was a free drop from the same place.  Was I wrong?

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

pretty sure you are wrong.   If he thought the 150 yard marker was in his way you are allowed to pull it out before your shot.

[supermike80 1,804]

21 minutes ago, shadrap said:

pretty sure you are wrong.   If he thought the 150 yard marker was in his way you are allowed to pull it out before your shot.

Normally yes, but it was quite a bit ahead of where he was.  Hitting it was a fluke.

[shadrap 220]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

Normally yes, but it was quite a bit ahead of where he was.  Hitting it was a fluke.

 Decisions on the Rules of Golf:
19-1/1 Ball Deflected by Direction Post
Q. A ball is deflected by a direction post. What is the ruling?
A. It is a rub of the green and the ball must be played as it lies, without penalty.

[supermike80 1,804]

57 minutes ago, shadrap said:

 Decisions on the Rules of Golf:
19-1/1 Ball Deflected by Direction Post
Q. A ball is deflected by a direction post. What is the ruling?
A. It is a rub of the green and the ball must be played as it lies, without penalty.

Fair..But what if said ball goes into a water hazard.   Cannot be played as it lies.  Free drop?

[bostonlager 2,664]

17 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Fair..But what if said ball goes into a water hazard.   Cannot be played as it lies.  Free drop?

lateral hazard. drop but not free. 

[supermike80 1,804]

7 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

lateral hazard. drop but not free. 

Generally yes..But what if hit the yard marker

[bostonlager 2,664]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Generally yes..But what if hit the yard marker

If you're playing with buddies- free drop.

If you're playing legit - its the same as if it hit a tree or sprinkler head. The only exception would be if the course had a local rule in place saying free drop 

[RogerDodger 797]

8 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

If you're playing with buddies- free drop.

If you're playing legit - its the same as if it hit a tree or sprinkler head. The only exception would be if the course had a local rule in place saying free drop 

Didn't spend a ton of time looking, but, I came to this same conclusion.  

[supermike80 1,804]

18 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

If you're playing with buddies- free drop.

If you're playing legit - its the same as if it hit a tree or sprinkler head. The only exception would be if the course had a local rule in place saying free drop 

Well I made it a free drop  LOL

[bostonlager 2,664]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Well I made it a free drop  LOL

Unless you're playing in a USGA sanctioned event, I'm cool with that call. I do draw the line at using foot wedges though. 

[supermike80 1,804]

1 minute ago, bostonlager said:

Unless you're playing in a USGA sanctioned event, I'm cool with that call. I do draw the line at using foot wedges though. 

It was in a league, and we play skins.  but he didn't win that hole anyway so it all worked out.

[Alias Detective 1,389]

5 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Was their skin on the match?

 

13 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Unless you're playing in a USGA sanctioned event, I'm cool with that call. I do draw the line at using foot wedges though. 

$ is my deciding factor

[Alias Detective 1,389]

5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

When I golfed on my high school team, a kid from another school hit one of the tee blocks from the women's tee in front of us.  The block came of of the ground, flew up in the air about 15ft and landed back in the ground.  His ball flew off to the left and landed on the next hole's green.  It was hilarious.

Playing in a Jr. tournament a kid I knew teed off, his ball slammed into the ladies tee marker and shot backwards behind the tee box he just teed from.  It was tee box #1 and we went off on tee-times.  There ware A LOT of people who needed to move so Kevin could hit shot 2.

[bostonlager 2,664]

8 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

Playing in a Jr. tournament a kid I knew teed off, his ball slammed into the ladies tee marker and shot backwards behind the tee box he just teed from.  It was tee box #1 and we went off on tee-times.  There ware A LOT of people who needed to move so Kevin could hit shot 2.

Rule 34b-2 - Failure to hit the ball past the ladies tees will result in player having to play the remainder of the hole with peemus hanging out of trousers. 

[supermike80 1,804]

2 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Rule 34b-2 - Failure to hit the ball past the ladies tees will result in player having to play the remainder of the hole with peemus hanging out of trousers. 

Only if said round is sponsored by Bud Light

[WhiteWonder 2,677]

12 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Here's one that happened last week.  We were watching the group ahead of us in our league.   Guy lined up, swung, and his ball hit the 150 stake about 30 yards in front of him, it richoched off and went dead left into the water.   I told him that was a free drop from the same place.  Was I wrong?

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

is the stake moveable? If so, I believe it's on him to move it.

If it's not moveable, then without looking anything up, I would wonder too. I guess regardless of being a man made obstruction, it would be the same as bouncing off a sprinkler head. 

[edjr 6,578]

I just shot a 51 with a birdie

 

[bostonlager 2,664]

7 minutes ago, edjr said:

I just shot a 51 with a birdie

 

How many putts? Was getting close the problem or closing the deal?

[edjr 6,578]

1 hour ago, bostonlager said:

How many putts? Was getting close the problem or closing the deal?

Way too many bad shots. Drove well, but I really am a mess right now. 

[Cruzer 1,995]

16 hours ago, supermike80 said:

I am pretty sure if you are playing with overhead wires, and your ball hits a wire, you get a redo.  So I figured the same should be true here.

When a golf ball hits a power line, you have to rehit (no penalty) from where you played the previous shot - you don't get a choice. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

I care about golf etiquette but not necessarily about golf rules. Hit one in the water? Do over. Foot wedge to get it on the fairway. Always. Lost ball? Fock it. Drop a new one and don't count the stroke. Take a fairway shot and tee it up on a nice tuft of grass. Hell yeah. Water hazard I can pick up my ball and toss it over? Every time. Golf is not the boss of me, yo. I drink beer, chew tobacco and cheat my ass off with no regrets. I usually wind up with a score of 506 anyway, but I don't care. DON'T CARE. 

[shadrap 220]

7 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I care about golf etiquette but not necessarily about golf rules. Hit one in the water? Do over. Foot wedge to get it on the fairway. Always. Lost ball? Fock it. Drop a new one and don't count the stroke. Take a fairway shot and tee it up on a nice tuft of grass. Hell yeah. Water hazard I can pick up my ball and toss it over? Every time. Golf is not the boss of me, yo. I drink beer, chew tobacco and cheat my ass off with no regrets. I usually wind up with a score of 506 anyway, but I don't care. DON'T CARE. 

It's supposed to be fun.  Do what you do unless it messes with your playing partners.  Gross birdie in our group = fireball shot.  If no gross birdie in first 8 holes we go to net birdie.

cheers.