Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: It’s amazing how many times we have to remind liberals in these forums that this country was never intended to be a democracy. It’s a constitutional republic, a confederation of states where the President is elected not by individuals, but by states. It made sense then, and it makes sense now. Imagine the tyranny that would ensue if the urban population centers of this country were empowered to dictate policy to the vast rural areas of the country that dominate the landscape. The Electoral College isn’t going anywhere - not without a lot of bloodshed anyways. GC leftists like Tim, Honcho and the pigeon feeder have been brainwashed by MSNBC and CNN into believing that communism is democracy and constitutional rights are fascist. DJT is the enemy and Adam Schiff and Pelosi et Al are the patriots. They still believe Trump/Russia colluded with no produced evidence. I’m fearful we are headed for very dark times. 1 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted January 14, 2024 20 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: GC leftists like Tim, Honcho and the pigeon feeder have been brainwashed by MSNBC and CNN into believing that communism is democracy and constitutional rights are fascist. DJT is the enemy and Adam Schiff and Pelosi et Al are the patriots. They still believe Trump/Russia colluded with no produced evidence. I’m fearful we are headed for very dark times. Um, no. And you people need to make up your mind. Schiff can't be both Communist and Fascist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, squistion said: Um, no. And you people need to make up your mind. Schiff can't be both Communist and Fascist. They are two sides of the same top down state controlled coin of totalitarianism sh!tbird. They are both forms of socialism the basis for your perverse ideology. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted January 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: They are two sides of the same top down state controlled coin of totalitarianism sh!tbird. They are both forms of socialism the basis for your perverse ideology. Yeah, Hitler was a socialist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, squistion said: Yeah, Hitler was a socialist. What party did the NAZIs belong to you dumb phuck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted January 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: What party did the NAZIs belong to you dumb phuck? LOL. Well, yes in the party name they called themselves Socialist. And North Korea calls itself: Democratic People's Republic of Korea but they are neither democratic, nor a republic. Gotcha! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, squistion said: LOL. Well, yes in the party name they called themselves Socialist. And North Korea calls itself: Democratic People's Republic of Korea but they are neither democratic, nor a republic. Gotcha! Hitler was ant-capitalist. The historical fact is that socialism during the last 100 years has resulted in fascist control of populations and has killed millions. We can easily name them, starting with Hitler’s Nazis and including the Soviet Union as well as China, Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba and countless banana republics (any nation with a name including “The People’s Republic of.” 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 23 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Hitler was ant-capitalist. The historical fact is that socialism during the last 100 years has resulted in fascist control of populations and has killed millions. We can easily name them, starting with Hitler’s Nazis and including the Soviet Union as well as China, Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba and countless banana republics (any nation with a name including “The People’s Republic of.” This is really terrible history. Almost everything you wrote here is incorrect starting with the notion that Hitler hated capitalism: the first thing that Hitler did, upon taking power, was purge all of the socialist elements of the Nazi Party (its called the Night of Long Knives, look it up. June of 1934.) Fascism and communism are equally evil ideologies but they aren’t the same and shouldn’t be conflated. Neither has anything to do with democracy or American liberalism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is really terrible history. Almost everything you wrote here is incorrect starting with the notion that Hitler hated capitalism: the first thing that Hitler did, upon taking power, was purge all of the socialist elements of the Nazi Party (its called the Night of Long Knives, look it up. June of 1934.) Fascism and communism are equally evil ideologies but they aren’t the same and shouldn’t be conflated. Neither has anything to do with democracy or American liberalism. Just shut up Tim “Hitler expressed opposition to capitalism, regarding it as having Jewish origins and accusing capitalism of holding nations ransom to the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#:~:text=Hitler expressed opposition to capitalism,a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said: Just shut up Tim “Hitler expressed opposition to capitalism, regarding it as having Jewish origins and accusing capitalism of holding nations ransom to the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#:~:text=Hitler expressed opposition to capitalism,a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class. Yes he did. Before taking power. But once in power he was very pro business. Which is why prominent right wing American capitalists of the time, like Henry Ford and Charlie Wilson loved Hitler and were very pro Nazi. As were a good chunk of the Republican Party. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes he did. Before taking power. But once in power he was very pro business. Which is why prominent right wing American capitalists of the time, like Henry Ford and Charlie Wilson loved Hitler and were very pro Nazi. As were a good chunk of the Republican Party. FDR refused to take Jewish refugees. You just say stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: FDR refused to take Jewish refugees. You just say stuff. Yes he did: what does that have to do with anything I wrote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes he did: what does that have to do with anything I wrote? Republicans being pro nazi. Henry Ford was a democrat after 1918. You just say things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes he did. Before taking power. But once in power he was very pro business. Which is why prominent right wing American capitalists of the time, like Henry Ford and Charlie Wilson loved Hitler and were very pro Nazi. As were a good chunk of the Republican Party. Yeah as a means to fund his war but believed a planned economy was far superior to a market economy. Goebells was also very anti-capitalist. That’s all I’m going to say on the topic. Back to the fascist scum Schiff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 41 minutes ago, squistion said: Shocking that the state run media would endorse the fascist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted January 14, 2024 Just now, Dizkneelande said: Shocking that the state run media would endorse the fascist. The L.A. Times is not state run media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Republicans being pro nazi. Henry Ford was a democrat after 1918. You just say things. Many Republicans were very pro-Nazi. I’m not making it up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 35 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes he did. Before taking power. But once in power he was very pro business. Which is why prominent right wing American capitalists of the time, like Henry Ford and Charlie Wilson loved Hitler and were very pro Nazi. As were a good chunk of the Republican Party. Ok, I want you to read this and then let me know if you disagree. When it comes to these fat cat industrialists, now and in history, their political affiliation lies with whatever party or politician is best for their bottom line. Trump was a Democrat. Why? The bulk of his business was in the North East, in democrat strongholds. The Koch brothers are republicans, yet they hate Trump. Do you think it’s because they find him unfit? No. The Koch brothers are open borders advocates, because it’s good for their bottom line. If Trump were a Republican that played along like the Bush clan, they would be slobbing his knob too. Wake up Tim. Power seeks power. They DGAF about much else. So stop playing the democrats are all good guys, republicans are all bad guys game. It’s silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 11 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Yeah as a means to fund his war but believed a planned economy was far superior to a market economy. Goebells was also very anti-capitalist. That’s all I’m going to say on the topic. Back to the fascist scum Schiff No that’s wrong about Hitler. You’re correct about Goebbels but he had little to do with economic control. The ones who did, first Schacht and then Funk, were pro-capitalist. It’s true that Funk in particular was corporatist, following Mussolini’s model of the state directing private business. But that’s far removed from socialism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok, I want you to read this and then let me know if you disagree. When it comes to these fat cat industrialists, now and in history, their political affiliation lies with whatever party or politician is best for their bottom line. Trump was a Democrat. Why? The bulk of his business was in the North East, in democrat strongholds. The Koch brothers are republicans, yet they hate Trump. Do you think it’s because they find him unfit? No. The Koch brothers are open borders advocates, because it’s good for their bottom line. If Trump were a Republican that played along like the Bush clan, they would be slobbing his knob too. Wake up Tim. Power seeks power. They DGAF about much else. So stop playing the democrats are all good guys, republicans are all bad guys game. It’s silly. Yes. I generally agree with your point. And I certainly don’t believe that Democrats are all good guys or Republicans are all bad guys. But in this forum the opposite contention is constantly made, and I push back against that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes. I generally agree with your point. And I certainly don’t believe that Democrats are all good guys or Republicans are all bad guys. But in this forum the opposite contention is constantly made, and I push back against that. I disagree. I doubt you would find many right wingers here that like Mitch McConnell or various other establishment Republicans. Many of us wish the MTG’s and Boeberts would also go away. Yet the left wingers here will pretty much defend any D. You have defended the squad yourself. Stop being such a Homer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I disagree. I doubt you would find many right wingers here that like Mitch McConnell or various other establishment Republicans. Many of us wish the MTG’s and Boeberts would also go away. Yet the left wingers here will pretty much defend any D. You have defended the squad yourself. Stop being such a Homer. I’m not wrong you’re wrong as usual - in August 1936 he personally wrote a “Memorandum on the Four-Year Plan 1936. “In this memorandum his admiration and fear of the Soviet system of planned economy were expressed: “The German economy, however, will learn to understand the new economic tasks, or it will prove itself to be incapable of continuing to survive in these modern times in which the Soviet state sets up a gigantic plan.” Stop derailing my thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,357 Posted January 14, 2024 10 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: I’m not wrong you’re wrong as usual - in August 1936 he personally wrote a “Memorandum on the Four-Year Plan 1936. “In this memorandum his admiration and fear of the Soviet system of planned economy were expressed: “The German economy, however, will learn to understand the new economic tasks, or it will prove itself to be incapable of continuing to survive in these modern times in which the Soviet state sets up a gigantic plan.” Stop derailing my thread. I think you quoted the wrong post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted January 14, 2024 26 minutes ago, Horseman said: I think you quoted the wrong post. His point is also wrong as usual. But whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: His point is also wrong as usual. But whatever. You wonder why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted January 14, 2024 Adam Fascist wants to save Democracy like the Khmer Rouge wanted to save Cambodia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,095 Posted January 14, 2024 Just blows you away that there are people who actually support this p.o.s. Dude is a garbage human being. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted January 14, 2024 13 minutes ago, Reality said: Just blows you away that there are people who actually support this p.o.s. Dude is a garbage human being. Seriously. He's up their with the worst Americans in the history of America. He is nothing but a propagandist and far left nut job. It's people like him that will usher in revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted January 14, 2024 44 minutes ago, Reality said: Just blows you away that there are people who actually support this p.o.s. Dude is a garbage human being. Anyone who supports this p.o.s. are garbage human beings too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted January 14, 2024 Stood in front of the American public and lied his ass off, knowingly, and harmed the country. There’s politics and spin, then there is what this POS did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 4 hours ago, Horseman said: I think you quoted the wrong post. Oops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 14, 2024 Here’s the endorsement. Comment section is 99% negative. Looks like both Tim and the pigeon commented on the editorial endorsement. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-14/endorsement-adam-schiff-for-the-u-s-senate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted January 15, 2024 4 hours ago, Reality said: Just blows you away that there are people who actually support this p.o.s. Dude is a garbage human being. This is the way I view almost all of them…..but there is little doubt that Schiff is the worst kind of scum. He is sort of the living Greg Marmalard… His actions are among THE MOST repugnant of any politician in my lifetime 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted January 15, 2024 5 hours ago, Reality said: Just blows you away that there are people who actually support this p.o.s. Dude is a garbage human being. Garbage human beings support garbage human beings. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted January 15, 2024 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Stood in front of the American public and lied his ass off, knowingly, and harmed the country. There’s politics and spin, then there is what this POS did. Yup. POS said he had proof that Trump colluded with the Russians to influence the election. It was a flat out lie, designed to take down the Trump Presidency. Sounds like a political insurrection to me. Hang the focker from the gallows. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,095 Posted January 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Well, it was a good run. Hard to believe there are actual people in this great nation that approve of something this absurd. We're so focked. Who pays for this? Spoiler alert, It's us, the upper middle class. Well, that probably doesn't include you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832 Posted January 20, 2024 6 hours ago, Reality said: Well, it was a good run. Hard to believe there are actual people in this great nation that approve of something this absurd. We're so focked. Who pays for this? Spoiler alert, It's us, the upper middle class. Well, that probably doesn't include you... Hey, don't make assumptions. For all you know, sucking all that DNC c@ck at the Cult of DNC gloryhole could pay well for all you know. Squidtard is probably a multimillionaire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,085 Posted January 20, 2024 Yay free stuff for everyone including all the illiterates and foreign nationals streaming over the border. Totally sustainable retards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites