The Church Shooter Was A Liberal Tranny

[seafoam1 2,797]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She already did 

He. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

He. 

She was born female and identified as female, despite using the name Jeffrey.  Does schizophrenic count as trans now?

 https://6abc.com/lakewood-church-shooting-shooter-houston-joel-osteen-megachurch/14415008/?ex_cid=TA_WPVI_TW&taid=65cbae331ba9b100015f7fd4&utm_campaign=trueanthem_manual&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

But yeah, as noted earlier, the real story here should be that despite her documented mental health AND criminal history, she was still able to LEGALLY purchase a gun.

 

[Voltaire 5,181]

21 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Well so much for the “watch this story disappear!” claim…

Nonetheless, actual reporting suggests she’s not actually a tranny but just used the name Jeffrey to commit crimes

 

We're expected to accept every tranny as a man or women at their preference - which I do not, under any circumstances, ever, even the most benign - but I do happen notice a pattern in which you guys love to evict every tranny mass shooter or rapist out of the tranny club. 

At least I'm being consistent; you guys routinely break your own rules about respecting their decisions whenever an inconvenient tranny comes along.

 

[Voltaire 5,181]

21 hours ago, TimHauck said:

So this lady was an immigrant from El Salvador.   I thought the narrative (like you’re repeating here) is that most trannies were groomed by their rich liberal parents?

If she was actually a tranny, like I said, congrats on maybe the third tranny mass shooter in 6 years.  There’s not some weird “tranny terrorist” movement.

But again, looking like this one wasn’t even a tranny.

If there's only three, that's because you guys are constantly digging up excuses and technicalities in order to kick every tranny mass shooter/rapist out of the tranny club.

Now, I don't respect any of their decisions - whatever they were given downstairs is forevermore what they are - even after they have carried out the decision to mutilate themselves. That's in contrast to you guys, who endow yourselves with the ability to determine which tranny's decisions you endorse and which ones you reject or excommunicate. This decision is always based on if their actions embarass the cult or not. Or maybe he's not really a tranny because he's genderfluid or demisexual or bispirit or some other of the 86 other alphabet options.

[TimHauck 2,598]

12 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 

We're expected to accept every tranny as a man or women at their preference - which I do not, under any circumstances, ever, even the most benign - but I do happen notice a pattern in which you guys love to evict every tranny mass shooter or rapist out of the tranny club. 

At least I'm being consistent; you guys routinely break your own rules about respecting their decisions whenever an inconvenient tranny comes along.

 

This person used a male name for crimes and because she was schizophrenic, no evidence they were actually a tranny.

The Colorado Springs shooter did not “identify as non binary” until after the shooting.  The trial showed there was no evidence they were actually non-binary.  I mean c’mon, he couldn’t even fully commit to the act by actually claiming to be trans, so he went with “non-binary”

I did not see any claims until recently (for a shooting that occurred in 2018) that the Aberdeen shooter was trans.

The Nashville shooter was trans.  These others were not based on the information we have available.   If you insist I’ll give you the Iowa one but even that is a gray area.  They may have been thinking about transitioning but had not yet.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

This game is pretty funny to me.  Shooting happens.  Immediate maga accusation is it's a transexual.  Then someone corrects the falsehood that the shooter is not transexual.  Then the maga gaslights into "why don't you like tranny's anymore?"

Question for Magas, do you think anyone buys what you're selling here?

[The Psychic Observer 495]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This person used a male name for crimes and because she was schizophrenic, no evidence they were actually a tranny.

The Colorado Springs shooter did not “identify as non binary” until after the shooting.  The trial showed there was no evidence they were actually non-binary.  I mean c’mon, he couldn’t even fully commit to the act by actually claiming to be trans, so he went with “non-binary”

I did not see any claims until recently (for a shooting that occurred in 2018) that the Aberdeen shooter was trans.

The Nashville shooter was trans.  These others were not based on the information we have available.   If you insist I’ll give you the Iowa one but even that is a gray area.  They may have been thinking about transitioning but had not yet.

The Nashville shooter created the narrative.  Confirmed transexual murders Christians.  Now every mass shooting gets this narrative applied in ridiculous fashion.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

30 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

The Nashville shooter created the narrative.  Confirmed transexual murders Christians.  Now every mass shooting gets this narrative applied in ridiculous fashion.

Except they are both identical. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

48 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

The Nashville shooter created the narrative.  Confirmed transexual murders Christians.  Now every mass shooting gets this narrative applied in ridiculous fashion.

Yeah even 5 years retroactively apparently in the case of the Aberdeen shooting which keeps being brought up for some reason….

Hopefully we get a motive for this one.   It seems the shooter was actually a member of this church, so it doesn’t appear she has anything against Christians as a whole.  In fact her Christianity may have driven her anti-Semitism as apparently her ex-mother-in-law is a rabbi and reports are her and her ex-husband had a contentious divorce.  Although speaking of divorce, are there still churches that won’t allow you to be a member if you’re divorced?

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah even 5 years retroactively apparently in the case of the Aberdeen shooting which keeps being brought up for some reason….

Hopefully we get a motive for this one.   It seems the shooter was actually a member of this church, so it doesn’t appear she has anything against Christians as a whole.  In fact her Christianity may have driven her anti-Semitism as apparently her ex-mother-in-law is a rabbi and reports are her and her ex-husband had a contentious divorce.  Although speaking of divorce, are there still churches that won’t allow you to be a member if you’re divorced?

It would make sense.  Common traits for these types of shooters:  domestic abuse, suicidal, attachment to the location, recent mental health crisis, access to guns.  

Things that aren't a common connection but people obsess about anyway: vote R or D, trans, what religion they are, etc.  

[RLLD 4,143]

15 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

The trope I was speaking of was the popular one around here that trannies are violent people.   Feel free to explain what you think my "maneuver" was on my part in posting that, or what truth you think I am avoiding.   

Of course you have the right to empathize with people, but my opinion was that most I see on one side of the debate don't empathize with them.  I thought you could parse out that while I replied to you I was also talking in generalities and describing the board in general.   The reason I stated that is because IMO you can't really empathize with people if you don't know basic information, stats about them, or listen to them.   Again, I point to basic stuff like the trope I described above which goes against stats on mental illness and other posts I've seen around here.    You can answer if that directly applies to you or not.  

Not sure what you mean with the last part, so I don't know if it's true or not.   What do you imagine I'd be doing where you'd think I was placating them and I can answer - saying they are a woman if they were born a man?  allowing them in sports?  using names and pronouns?  What?   I've encountered people on all ends of that spectrum, so again you can clarify your specific thoughts if you want.  

I think you might not be interpreting what you observer entirely correctly.  You see, that accusation...of violence is what the trannies themselves assert is happening to THEM....so it is entirely fair to turn it around......

Moreover, its a common refrain from the left that it is the right which is violent, and yet time and again its proven that the left is far more violent.

I maintain that when people have an ailment, of any kind.....the empathetic thing to do is treat them as best we can to help them through it.  That does not mean chemical castration or anything of the kind, instead it means helping their mental health.

[TimHauck 2,598]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think you might not be interpreting what you observer entirely correctly.  You see, that accusation...of violence is what the trannies themselves assert is happening to THEM....so it is entirely fair to turn it around......

Moreover, its a common refrain from the left that it is the right which is violent, and yet time and again its proven that the left is far more violent.

I maintain that when people have an ailment, of any kind.....the empathetic thing to do is treat them as best we can to help them through it.  That does not mean chemical castration or anything of the kind, instead it means helping their mental health.

Link to the left being more violent?  And don’t give me “53% of violent crime is committed by 13% of the population” or whatever.  Guarantee most of those people have never voted in their life.   @BuckSwope’s point in his most recent post is that violence doesn’t have a political party.

If you want to talk about tranny violence, take it to the Nashville thread.  No evidence this one was actually a tranny.

[BuckSwope 654]

31 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think you might not be interpreting what you observer entirely correctly.  You see, that accusation...of violence is what the trannies themselves assert is happening to THEM....so it is entirely fair to turn it around......

Moreover, its a common refrain from the left that it is the right which is violent, and yet time and again its proven that the left is far more violent.

I maintain that when people have an ailment, of any kind.....the empathetic thing to do is treat them as best we can to help them through it.  That does not mean chemical castration or anything of the kind, instead it means helping their mental health.

Yes, I can read posts.  Are you telling me around here the "trannies are violent" trope isn't a main talking point?    You have a very good talent of not answering questions or addressing any point that I actually have made or believe.     Yes, statistically they are more likely to be abused and subjected to violence than many groups we could talk about.  No, using an incorrect pronoun or words isn't "violence".  That is stupid and not my position.  

I never said anything about chemical castration or the like.   Again, care to answer my questions about how you think I am placating them or what truths I am avoiding?  

[BuckSwope 654]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to the left being more violent?  And don’t give me “53% of violent crime is committed by 13% of the population” or whatever.  Guarantee most of those people have never voted in their life.   @BuckSwope’s point in his most recent post is that violence doesn’t have a political party.

If you want to talk about tranny violence, take it to the Nashville thread.  No evidence this one was actually a tranny.

I mean, sometimes there is a direct link to their politics and violence.   My point was that if you look at mass shooters in general, none of this applies because it's mostly inner city and domestic shootings widely applied.   School/mall/church shooters take on a much different profile, and when you look at those specifically there is no common link like D/R, trans, etc..    The common traits are what I talked about and where we should start if we want to address it.   

[RLLD 4,143]

21 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Link to the left being more violent?  And don’t give me “53% of violent crime is committed by 13% of the population” or whatever.  Guarantee most of those people have never voted in their life.   @BuckSwope’s point in his most recent post is that violence doesn’t have a political party.

If you want to talk about tranny violence, take it to the Nashville thread.  No evidence this one was actually a tranny.

Oh see, I need not provide any links.....not unlike the rest of the world, I say it and that makes it real.....not my rules....

[RLLD 4,143]

12 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Yes, I can read posts.  Are you telling me around here the "trannies are violent" trope isn't a main talking point?    You have a very good talent of not answering questions or addressing any point that I actually have made or believe.     Yes, statistically they are more likely to be abused and subjected to violence than many groups we could talk about.  No, using an incorrect pronoun or words isn't "violence".  That is stupid and not my position.  

I never said anything about chemical castration or the like.   Again, care to answer my questions about how you think I am placating them or what truths I am avoiding?  

I do not read those literally. I see them as snarky, and turning the false narrative about tranny's receiving violence back on to them.....to assert.....instances of violence do not indicate a systemic issue.....JMHO

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not read those literally. I see them as snarky, and turning the false narrative about tranny's receiving violence back on to them.....to assert.....instances of violence do not indicate a systemic issue.....JMHO

Ok, we disagree about that.  That a bit of twisting to get to that point.  

Now, care to address any of my other questions to you, or should I do the same to you and just not take your posts literally or seriously? 

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, BuckSwope said:

Ok, we disagree about that.  That a bit of twisting to get to that point.  

Now, care to address any of my other questions to you, or should I do the same to you and just not take your posts literally or seriously? 

Its a valid question.

I typically post more literally, often to my own injury.  Too often I proceed under the impression the discussion is on the "up and up" only to discover people were just being sarcastic or playful etc....

To be fair, I am not immune from setting people up to expose their own hypocrisy, but I tend to limit that to really.....really...hypocritical people, who show a lack of real wisdom.  More often I try to understand first, but in the end might still do the hypocrite exposure....

To be fair we are all hypocrites to some extent.  I oppose murder, but support abortion.....therefore I am being philosophically dishonest....but for good reason, I do not want sluts raising kids

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Where is all that outcry about violence against trannys that we were hearing about? Went away like violence against Asians being an issue. As usual, the perps were inconvenient so poof! It was gone. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Oh see, I need not provide any links.....not unlike the rest of the world, I say it and that makes it real.....not my rules....

You see what you want to see

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, TimHauck said:

You see what you want to see

There we go, using the rules provided I can therefore make any assertion I choose....

But wait, maybe.....just maybe.....there is another way 

[MDC 7,113]

17 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Ok, we disagree about that.  That a bit of twisting to get to that point.  

Now, care to address any of my other questions to you, or should I do the same to you and just not take your posts literally or seriously?

 

[TimHauck 2,598]

19 minutes ago, RLLD said:

There we go, using the rules provided I can therefore make any assertion I choose....

But wait, maybe.....just maybe.....there is another way 

Maybe posting actual data to back up your claims?  I know most of the GC isn’t a fan of doing that (usually because there isn’t data to back up their claims)

[Horseman 2,353]

When the conversation has turned to metal helmet and fry cook level stupid just abort. 

[BuckSwope 654]

16 minutes ago, MDC said:

 

I tried.  3 times and still can't answer a question, just accusing me of bs.  

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Maybe posting actual data to back up your claims?  I know most of the GC isn’t a fan of doing that (usually because there isn’t data to back up their claims)

Perhaps.....that could be a way.....

Then again, you really didn't ask for anything....so now I am unsure.....

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Maybe posting actual data to back up your claims?  I know most of the GC isn’t a fan of doing that (usually because there isn’t data to back up their claims)

Their sources are X videos, Tucker Carlson, and Fox.  That's why they never reply to that request. 

[The Psychic Observer 495]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

I tried.  3 times and still can't answer a question, just accusing me of bs.  

It's all a game to him.  The only winning move is not to play.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

When the conversation has turned to metal helmet and fry cook level stupid just abort. 

The tl/dr crew. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Perhaps.....that could be a way.....

Then again, you really didn't ask for anything....so now I am unsure.....

Do you have a source for your claim that “time and again it’s proven that the left is far more violent”?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you have a source for your claim that “time and again it’s proven that the left is far more violent”?

It is known 

[RLLD 4,143]

40 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you have a source for your claim that “time and again it’s proven that the left is far more violent”?

Ah!   Just my observations around things like rioting, taking over sections of cities, violent protesting, violence toward elected officials etc....I know its a tactic to pretend "its all those right wingers" but in fact its more those lefties, and their actions are allowed, making the outcomes profoundly worse

So this schtick of "MAGA" and "right wing" is a little bit of protesting too much...... while ignoring the mess in their own house.....

When speakers are visiting bastions of "liberal" ideology, they are under incessant threat, unlike speakers who visit more conservative events.

[TimHauck 2,598]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Ah!   Just my observations around things like rioting, taking over sections of cities, violent protesting, violence toward elected officials etc....I know its a tactic to pretend "its all those right wingers" but in fact its more those lefties, and their actions are allowed, making the outcomes profoundly worse

So this schtick of "MAGA" and "right wing" is a little bit of protesting too much...... while ignoring the mess in their own house.....

When speakers are visiting bastions of "liberal" ideology, they are under incessant threat, unlike speakers who visit more conservative events.

That’s a lot of words to say no, no you don’t.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Leftist opens fire at a baseball game. Steve Scalice (R) shot. We can start there. 

[Engorgeous George 2,120]

22 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes. 
 

And as much as I love Ronald Reagan and believe him to be the greatest President of my lifetime, I also hold him responsible for changes to the system in California that made it more difficult to care for mentally ill people. 
 

My grandmother was mentally ill. All throughout my childhood my mom tried to place her in facilities but she wouldn’t stay. Then she lived like a homeless person and my mom couldn’t find her. It was terrible. 

Sorry your Nana was a hobo.

[BuckSwope 654]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s a lot of words to say no, no you don’t.

Unsurprisingly it's skewed to blame the libs as usual.    As if there is no violence or threats on the right on politicians or during protests.   How about at abortion clinics?    Then maybe just take an honest look at what most people would also include in there - violent crimes, domestic abuse, etc.  and I highly doubt there is a strong correlation between how one votes and how violent they are.   It's just nonsense finger pointing for the most part that is basically only about "the summer of love".  

[RLLD 4,143]

25 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s a lot of words to say no, no you don’t.

I find it useful to be as clear as possible, this then to avoid wasted time as people tend to infer.....and when they do infer, their bias is the source of that inference, and then intent is attributed without validity.....I find it avoids a 30 post back and forth.

[TimHauck 2,598]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I find it useful to be as clear as possible, this then to avoid wasted time as people tend to infer.....and when they do infer, their bias is the source of that inference, and then intent is attributed without validity.....I find it avoids a 30 post back and forth.

RLLD:  I try to be as clear as possible

Also RLLD:  Writes three paragraphs in response to a yes or no question in which he doesn’t directly answer the question 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

RLLD:  I try to be as clear as possible

Also RLLD:  Writes three paragraphs in response to a yes or no question in which he doesn’t directly answer the question 

Being clear.....can sometimes mean using more words.....I am a little surprised you are not ware of this. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

57 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Being clear.....can sometimes mean using more words.....I am a little surprised you are not ware of this. 

If you think your posts are clear, I’ve got some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you…