edjr 6,580 Posted March 11, 2024 Quote 1.01 - Trevor Lawrence - Was supposed to be a generational talent 1.02 - Zach Wilson - Defensive (terrible coach) 1.03 - Trey Lance - who knows? 1.11 - Justin Fields - Da Bears 1.15 - Mac Jones - Defensive HC that hates QBs Maybe it's time to blame the coaching and not the players? I have been saying this since Rick Mirer got the shaft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,517 Posted March 12, 2024 2022 QBS - Look any better other than Purdy? Malik Willis (Titans) ... Kenny Pickett (Steelers) ... Sam Howell (Commanders) ... Desmond Ridder (Falcons) ... Matt Corral (Panthers) ... Chris Oladokun (Steelers) ... Bailey Zappe (Patriots) ... Brock Purdy (49ers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,517 Posted March 12, 2024 8 hours ago, edjr said: Maybe it's time to blame the coaching and not the players? I have been saying this since Rick Mirer got the shaft. Lawrence has his moments but look like a HOF for Clemson and streaky in the pros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,734 Posted March 12, 2024 7 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said: Lawrence has his moments but look like a HOF for Clemson and streaky in the pros. He is still absolutely a franchise QB, imo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,517 Posted March 12, 2024 12 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: He is still absolutely a franchise QB, imo. Yea I think so too but we haven't seen his best yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 24, 2024 Keeps getting worse. Now even Lawrence is a bum. No surprise though, it is the Jags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 24, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 11:10 PM, WhiteWonder said: He is still absolutely a franchise QB, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 24, 2024 On 3/11/2024 at 10:58 PM, BeenHereBefore said: 2022 QBS - Look any better other than Purdy? Malik Willis (Titans) ... Kenny Pickett (Steelers) ... Sam Howell (Commanders) ... Desmond Ridder (Falcons) ... Matt Corral (Panthers) ... Chris Oladokun (Steelers) ... Bailey Zappe (Patriots) ... Brock Purdy (49ers) We have all the proof we need NFL teams needs to stop reaching for QBs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted September 24, 2024 Every time I see the Jags play I think they have no identity at all. The OL is mediocre, they don’t run the ball efficiently or have any elite receiving weapons, the D isn’t dominant. Lawrence looks mediocre but the team around him overall is probably worse than say Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted September 24, 2024 8 minutes ago, MDC said: Every time I see the Jags play I think they have no identity at all. The OL is mediocre, they don’t run the ball efficiently or have any elite receiving weapons, the D isn’t dominant. Lawrence looks mediocre but the team around him overall is probably worse than say Cleveland. On pure talent I dont understand how its a bad setup. You have a Clemson buddy and 1st round RB in Etienne. You have a rookie 1st round WR. You have Kirk a 2nd round WR. Gabe Davis isnt very good but they went out and paid him some money. Engram is a former 1st round TE. Their Oline may be average at best. Their defensive front has talent. Thr defense held Mia with Tua to 20 pts. The Browns to 18. Both losses. No I agree they dont have a real identity. But they have players. The owner called this thr most talented Jags roster ever assembled during training camp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,734 Posted September 24, 2024 57 minutes ago, edjr said: Standing by it. Hes talented enough to be one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 573 Posted September 24, 2024 Former Titans GM Floyd Reese said years ago on a radio show, in essence, “There isn’t a QB shortage in the NFL. There is a GM and coaching shortage.” He went on to say that there are loads of QBs who are smart enough, athletic enough and competitive enough to lead winning NFL teams, but not enough GMs and coaches who have what it takes to build a proper team around those guys. So, he said, most teams are looking for the same exact guys with the same measurables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: On pure talent I dont understand how its a bad setup. You have a Clemson buddy and 1st round RB in Etienne. You have a rookie 1st round WR. You have Kirk a 2nd round WR. Gabe Davis isnt very good but they went out and paid him some money. Engram is a former 1st round TE. Their Oline may be average at best. Their defensive front has talent. Thr defense held Mia with Tua to 20 pts. The Browns to 18. Both losses. No I agree they dont have a real identity. But they have players. The owner called this thr most talented Jags roster ever assembled during training camp. I don’t care where the players were drafted. The Jags have a below average OL, an above average but not great RB, a lower end receiving corps, and an okay TE who’s used as a receiver mostly out of desperation. Their skills group is definitely sub league average and may be bottom 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted September 24, 2024 I thought fields was the best qb in that draft. Might turn out to be true also thought Lawrence was another Cutler. That’s looking like an insult to cutler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 24, 2024 where's the 2017 thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: where's the 2017 thread? @Mike FF Today please, I am begging you. Let me ignore this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 24, 2024 38 minutes ago, edjr said: @Mike FF Today please, I am begging you. Let me ignore this you can try all you want, your mom never could Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
