Boeing, nothing to see.....

[thegeneral 3,208]

19 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The killing of a whistleblower not only serves to silence that whistleblower, but to send a message to dozens of other potential whistleblowers to keep their mouths shut.   You can't kill everyone who knows something otherwise you could never get anything done.   Our corporations and deep state government agencies are nothing but a glorified mob.   And somehow Democrats went from liberals who despised these corrupt corporate and government entities, and morphed into leftists who love the corrupt authoritarian state we have become.    

Wouldn’t it be better to do it before he talks for two days in a deposition? There was years to do this. 

Why are you talking about Democrats ?

[jonmx 2,429]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Wouldn’t it be better to do it before he talks for two days in a deposition? There was years to do this. 

Why are you talking about Democrats ?

Because Democrats have become the primary supporter of the deep state and actively persecutes whistleblowers, except for the ones who go against Trump.  Whistleblowers who turn against government or big corporations are ruthlessly destroyed by Democrats.   

You can not just pre-emptively kill every potential whistleblower, or you would have to kill thousands of people.  You selectively kill a few whistleblowers after they start to speak, to send the message that there is safety in silence.  Speaking up, not so much.  

[TimHauck 2,858]

I’m sure once digby makes his monthly appearance he’ll tell us how he’s an expert on Boeing because he lived in North Charleston, even though he somehow didn’t even  know that North Charleston was a different city than Charleston 

[TimHauck 2,858]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Because Democrats have become the primary supporter of the deep state and actively persecutes whistleblowers, except for the ones who go against Trump.  Whistleblowers who turn against government or big corporations are ruthlessly destroyed by Democrats.   

You can not just pre-emptively kill every potential whistleblower, or you would have to kill thousands of people.  You selectively kill a few whistleblowers after they start to speak, to send the message that there is safety in silence.  Speaking up, not so much.  

So if anyone killed this dude, it was the government and not Boeing?

[thegeneral 3,208]

10 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Because Democrats have become the primary supporter of the deep state and actively persecutes whistleblowers, except for the ones who go against Trump.  Whistleblowers who turn against government or big corporations are ruthlessly destroyed by Democrats.   

You can not just pre-emptively kill every potential whistleblower, or you would have to kill thousands of people.  You selectively kill a few whistleblowers after they start to speak, to send the message that there is safety in silence.  Speaking up, not so much.  

Oh boy. Ok.

In any case you wait til the whistleblower goes on the record though? They now have this deposition and the article mentioned at least 8 people who backed up his claims. Now we all get to listen a bunch more tinhats. 

I’m killing him before he talks. Seems smarter. Amateur hour over there. 

[RLLD 4,230]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So if anyone killed this dude, it was the government and not Boeing?

....or a Clinton....

[jonmx 2,429]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So if anyone killed this dude, it was the government and not Boeing?

I did not say that, but government and big corp are part of the same team.  The government or big Corp don't kill anyone, they hire it out.  That is why government has over $500 million in off the books money it pays out to operatives, to do their dirty work and keep their hands clean.  

[thegeneral 3,208]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I did not say that, but government and big corp are part of the same team.  The government or big Corp don't kill anyone, they hire it out.  That is why government has over $500 million in off the books money it pays out to operatives, to do their dirty work and keep their hands clean.  

So did Boeing do the murder or did the government outsource it on their behalf?

[jonmx 2,429]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

So did Boeing do the murder or did the government outsource it on their behalf?

 

How am I suppose to know.  These agencies operate in secrecy, and even when dragged before Congress hide behind security secrets, national security, and on-going investigation rhetoric.  We have massive agencies with unchecked power which we have very little insight into.  The head of the CIA or other agencies is not answerable to the people.   It is the worst most corrupt agency we ever created and is directly responsible for most of our wars we get into.  

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

I did not say that, but government and big corp are part of the same team.  The government or big Corp don't kill anyone, they hire it out.  That is why government has over $500 million in off the books money it pays out to operatives, to do their dirty work and keep their hands clean.  

What’s really in it for the government to kill people to ensure Boeing maintains their profit levels though?  It’s not like they’re going to go under, and if anything them having a quality control issue would make those government contracts cheaper.

[jonmx 2,429]

42 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What’s really in it for the government to kill people to ensure Boeing maintains their profit levels though?  It’s not like they’re going to go under, and if anything them having a quality control issue would make those government contracts cheaper.

Why would they care about making contracts cheaper?  Unelecged government agencies are the control arm to enforce the tyranny.  Corporations provide a means to bypass constitutional restraints.  Corporations also provides the means of making real money.   There is a reason there is a revolving door between intelligence and other agencies and the mega corporations.  You do favors for the mega corporations and then get to retire to a cush job.  The level of corruption of our system is far bigger than you could even imagine. 

[thegeneral 3,208]

17 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Does anyone here not agree this is not a suicide?

does anyone here believe this was a suicide? 
 

maybe that’s more clear 

I think it’s far more likely he killed himself than he was murdered by Boeing executives (or the CIA or whoever).

[jerryskids 6,790]

20 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

Just going to keep this in my back pocket for future threads.   

 

[nobody 2,667]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

if anything them having a quality control issue would make those government contracts cheaper.

Bless your naive little heart

[IGotWorms 4,058]

5 hours ago, jonmx said:

The killing of a whistleblower not only serves to silence that whistleblower, but to send a message to dozens of other potential whistleblowers to keep their mouths shut.   You can't kill everyone who knows something otherwise you could never get anything done.   Our corporations and deep state government agencies are nothing but a glorified mob.   And somehow Democrats went from liberals who despised these corrupt corporate and government entities, and morphed into leftists who love the corrupt authoritarian state we have become.    

It’s possible.

Your issue is you take it as the gods honest truth without a shred of actual evidence.

It’s also weird you single out democrats. Bottom line you’re just a Trumper troll, because if you really believed this stuff you’d blame everyone and, no, you’re not actually stupid enough to believe Trump is some kind of savior.

[Reality 3,121]

The Netflix documentary should be good.

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Anybody buy it?

 

 

CNN — 

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett died by suicide, according to a police report released on Friday, bringing to end an investigation of the shocking death of a longtime employee who raised concerns about the airplane manufacturer’s safety and production standards – and who sued the company, claiming Boeing illegally retaliated against him.

Barnett, 62, was found dead in a vehicle on March 9 from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Charleston, South Carolina. Officers had been dispatched to conduct a welfare check on Barnett at a Holiday Inn when he failed to show up to a deposition in his case against Boeing, according to his lawyers and a police incident report.

When they arrived, responding officers found Barnett dead in the driver’s seat of a truck in the parking lot. He was holding a handgun. The initial police report also said there was a note in the truck.

But Barnett’s lawyers said in a statement following his death that his deposition was nearing an end and he appeared to be in good spirits.

“We didn’t see any indication he would take his own life. No one can believe it,” his lawyers, Robert Turkewitz and Brian Knowles, said in a statement on March 12. “The Charleston police need to investigate this fully and accurately and tell the public what they find out.”

The Charleston Police Department on Friday concluded their investigation into Barnett’s death, saying the Charleston County Coroner’s Office determined that Barnett had killed himself.

The investigation found that Barnett was shot in the head at close range and the weapon was found in his right hand. There was also a notebook found in the front seat of the car that showed signs that “he was going through a period of serious personal distress,” according to a media release about the police investigation.