Who here still supports Jan 6 attack?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

I always appreciated the Giant Rat at protests. The Jan 6 patriots should have went with that. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

In the immediate aftermath of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, a number of conservatives and Republicans broke ranks with then-President Donald Trump and blamed him for the violence that day. Among them was Trump’s current campaign manager, Chris LaCivita.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/trump-campaign-manager-january-6/index.html

[seafoam1 3,024]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

In the immediate aftermath of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, a number of conservatives and Republicans broke ranks with then-President Donald Trump and blamed him for the violence that day. Among them was Trump’s current campaign manager, Chris LaCivita.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/trump-campaign-manager-january-6/index.html

cnn.  

[Fnord 2,266]

4 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

In the immediate aftermath of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, a number of conservatives and Republicans broke ranks with then-President Donald Trump and blamed him for the violence that day. Among them was Trump’s current campaign manager, Chris LaCivita.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/trump-campaign-manager-january-6/index.html

He was a loser then. You really can't expect them to remain ideologically steadfast when there is more money and power to grab. 

[jonmx 2,429]

I would take every single Jan 6er over a lowlife POS Democrat everytime.  

[squistion 2,201]

This is disgusting. 

 

[RLLD 4,230]

On 10/23/2024 at 5:46 PM, jonmx said:

I would take every single Jan 6er over a lowlife POS Democrat everytime.  

I disagree.

I think there were people involved in that day who need to be in jail, who were wrong and I want accountability for those who physically took action.  I am concerned that Trump might free some of them when elected, and I object to that.......

[Fnord 2,266]

On 10/23/2024 at 4:46 PM, jonmx said:

I would take every single Jan 6er over a lowlife POS Democrat everytime.  

Of course you would. What you leave out is that you consider EVERY Democrat to be a lowlife POS. 

[Fnord 2,266]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I disagree.

I think there were people involved in that day who need to be in jail, who were wrong and I want accountability for those who physically took action.  I am concerned that Trump might free some of them when elected, and I object to that.......

THIS we agree about. And I will be consistent with this if Trump wins and some overzealous libs get violent. Throw the book at all of them.

[squistion 2,201]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I disagree.

I think there were people involved in that day who need to be in jail, who were wrong and I want accountability for those who physically took action.  I am concerned that Trump might free some of them when elected, and I object to that.......

Wasn't jon one of those "Blue Lives Matter" folks? But bashing LEO's with clubs, baseball bats, tire irons, and flagpoles is somehow acceptable to him.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, Fnord said:

THIS we agree about. And I will be consistent with this if Trump wins and some overzealous libs get violent. Throw the book at all of them.

Fantastic!   Your morality is now congruent with mine  Notably, this moral stance I also held with the BLM rioters as well, might you also share the same stance with those rioters as you do with these?

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Wasn't jon one of those "Blue Lives Matter" folks? But bashing LEO's with clubs, baseball bats, tire irons, and flagpoles is somehow acceptable to him.

Beats me.  relevance?

[squistion 2,201]

Just now, RLLD said:

Beats me.  relevance?

He has said that he thinks all the Jan 6 folks who are in prison should be pardoned, including those who assaulted police officers. 

[jonmx 2,429]

Just now, RLLD said:

I disagree.

I think there were people involved in that day who need to be in jail, who were wrong and I want accountability for those who physically took action.  I am concerned that Trump might free some of them when elected, and I object to that.......

 

There were, but they baited into it.   It was 100 percent entrapment.  The presence of hundreds of intelligence surrogates who had infiltrated every group who was present.  The refusal of national guard support.  The lax security.   The phony pipe bombs set up outside the RNC and DNC headquarters.  The exsct same team of FBI agents who were in charge of the Witmer kidnapping entrapment plot were moved in months before Jan 6th to handle this entrapment.  The coordinated media coverage parroting the exact same narrative 'armed deadly insurrection' was blasted everywhere.  The dog and pony one-sided Congressional hearings which completely blocked out any counter-points and conflicting evidence from being presented.  The DOJ immediately having these very novel criminal charges ready to go (which have since been thrown out) was further evidence of just how deep this plot was planned out.   The obscene amount of resources allocated to hundreds of the most trivial crimes (such as some old lady who peacefully entered the Capitol), as if these were crimes we should be wasting our time on punishing.  The real crime that day was the set up and that is what needs investigating.

 

[RLLD 4,230]

Just now, squistion said:

He has said that he thinks all the Jan 6 folks who are in prison should be pardoned, including those who assaulted police officers. 

Oh I see, well I disgree with him on that point.    IMHO, if a court of law found enough evidence to convict then they likely need to be in jail. I am not inclined to give any leeway for violent protestors. 

[jonmx 2,429]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Of course you would. What you leave out is that you consider EVERY Democrat to be a lowlife POS. 

No, everyday Democrats are just idiots who are easily manipulated.  The true lowlife POS are in the deep state pulling the strings.  They are the ones who need to be arrested and purged from government. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

 

There were, but they baited into it.   It was 100 percent entrapment.  The presence of hundreds of intelligence surrogates who had infiltrated every group who was present.  The refusal of national guard support.  The lax security.   The phony pipe bombs set up outside the RNC and DNC headquarters.  The exsct same team of FBI agents who were in charge of the Witmer kidnapping entrapment plot were moved in months before Jan 6th to handle this entrapment.  The coordinated media coverage parroting the exact same narrative 'armed deadly insurrection' was blasted everywhere.  The dog and pony one-sided Congressional hearings which completely blocked out any counter-points and conflicting evidence from being presented.  The DOJ immediately having these very novel criminal charges ready to go (which have since been thrown out) was further evidence of just how deep this plot was planned out.   The obscene amount of resources allocated to hundreds of the most trivial crimes (such as some old lady who peacefully entered the Capitol), as if these were crimes we should be wasting our time on punishing.  The real crime that day was the set up and that is what needs investigating.

 

I appreciate your position on this, and do understand why you feel this way.  I do not entirely agree, though you raise some good points.

Would you hold this same position, if we instead look at BLM rioters?  Would you give them some reasonable accommodations as well?

[Fnord 2,266]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Fantastic!   Your morality is now congruent with mine  Notably, this moral stance I also held with the BLM rioters as well, might you also share the same stance with those rioters as you do with these?

I'm not completely sure what you're referencing here, but if it's something like:

Those that created violence and destruction during the mostly peaceful protests in 2020 should all be investigated and arrested with the same fervor as those that were violent during the mostly peaceful J6 protest.

Then we are in lockstep.

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I'm not completely sure what you're referencing here, but if it's something like:

Those that created violence and destruction during the mostly peaceful protests in 2020 should all be investigated and arrested with the same fervor as those that were violent during the mostly peaceful J6 protest.

Then we are in lockstep.

[Fnord 2,266]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, everyday Democrats are just idiots who are easily manipulated.  The true lowlife POS are in the deep state pulling the strings.  They are the ones who need to be arrested and purged from government. 

You rarely make this distinction, and still manage to do it in a way that shows you hold all rank and file liberals in very low opinion. This is not a helpful mindset.

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I appreciate your position on this, and do understand why you feel this way.  I do not entirely agree, though you raise some good points.

Would you hold this same position, if we instead look at BLM rioters?  Would you give them some reasonable accommodations as well?

If they were indeed baited into action by government agents and being prosecuted to silence anti-government speech.   The deep state defended the BLM protestors because they were used to advance a different agenda.  The deep state does not like local police and want to advance an agenda where the feds have power over local law enforcement agencies.   That is why there was so much differences in how BLM violent protestors acts were ignored.   They wanted protests against local authority to go unpunished, while anyone who dares says a bad thing about federal power to have the book thrown at them.  

[squistion 2,201]

35 minutes ago, jonmx said:

There were, but they baited into it.   It was 100 percent entrapment.  The presence of hundreds of intelligence surrogates who had infiltrated every group who was present.  The refusal of national guard support.  The lax security.   The phony pipe bombs set up outside the RNC and DNC headquarters.  The exsct same team of FBI agents who were in charge of the Witmer kidnapping entrapment plot were moved in months before Jan 6th to handle this entrapment.  The coordinated media coverage parroting the exact same narrative 'armed deadly insurrection' was blasted everywhere.  The dog and pony one-sided Congressional hearings which completely blocked out any counter-points and conflicting evidence from being presented.  The DOJ immediately having these very novel criminal charges ready to go (which have since been thrown out) was further evidence of just how deep this plot was planned out.   The obscene amount of resources allocated to hundreds of the most trivial crimes (such as some old lady who peacefully entered the Capitol), as if these were crimes we should be wasting our time on punishing.  The real crime that day was the set up and that is what needs investigating.

I don't think entrapment has ever succeeded in the defense of someone who has committed a violent physical assault on anyone.

And did any of the Jan 6 attorney's of those who attacked LEO's make that argument? I don't think so - if they did they would be laughed out of court:

"You're honor, the defendant was entrapped into attempting to beat the Capitol Police Officer sensless with a club" 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Trump riled up the crowd. Just like HITLER! 

[jonmx 2,429]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You rarely make this distinction, and still manage to do it in a way that shows you hold all rank and file liberals in very low opinion. This is not a helpful mindset.

 

The only two issues driving people to vote Democrats this election cycle are orageman-bad and abortion.    Purely driven by irrational fear pushed by the deep state media.   It is sad that so many people can support an idiot like Kamala that has no real policies or vision and has no leadership ability.  It is embarrassing.  

[Fnord 2,266]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

The only two issues driving people to vote Democrats this election cycle are orageman-bad and abortion.    Purely driven by irrational fear pushed by the deep state media.   It is sad that so many people can support an idiot like Kamala that has no real policies or vision and has no leadership ability.  It is embarrassing.  

There are way more reasons than just those two, but okay. Bolded is 100% your opinion. She has outlined her policy proposals in more detail than turnip in most cases. And like most comparisons between these two, you demolish your credibility by saying Kamala has no leadership qualities, so I'm gonna vote for Trump!

What leadership qualities has he displayed? I honestly can only think of one: the whole scene right after he was grazed by the bullet in PA. Super cool when he got up and raised his fist. I suspect that will be the only time I'll ever feel even a tiny bit inspired by him. Even calling that specific instance evidence of leadership ability is questionable.

[jonmx 2,429]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

There are way more reasons than just those two, but okay. Bolded is 100% your opinion. She has outlined her policy proposals in more detail than turnip in most cases. And like most comparisons between these two, you demolish your credibility by saying Kamala has no leadership qualities, so I'm gonna vote for Trump!

What leadership qualities has he displayed? I honestly can only think of one: the whole scene right after he was grazed by the bullet in PA. Super cool when he got up and raised his fist. I suspect that will be the only time I'll ever feel even a tiny bit inspired by him. Even calling that specific instance evidence of leadership ability is questionable.

 

On some website which can be deleted and denied.  She never talks specifics.  When Anderson asks her repeatedly if she now supports a wall, she can not answer yes or no about anything.  She just gives some bullcrap line about how she supports a stronger border.  And from what we seen by stronger border she really means open borders which turns illegals into citizens immediately with no vetting process.

[Horseman 2,458]

14 minutes ago, Fnord said:

She has outlined her policy proposals in more detail than turnip in most cases. 

This sounds like a must read.  Link?

[Fnord 2,266]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

This sounds like a must read.  Link?

Sure, I'll get right on that. No doubt it will deeply affect your thinking and how you vote.

[Horseman 2,458]

15 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Sure, I'll get right on that. No doubt it will deeply affect your thinking and how you vote.

You said it she had it all outlined, in more detail that Trump.  I haven't seen that.  I would like to. 

[Fnord 2,266]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

You said it she had it all outlined, in more detail that Trump.  I haven't seen that.  I would like to. 

By all means, seek it out. No doubt you will be riveted and listening closely so you can make an appropriate decision on who to vote for.

[Horseman 2,458]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

By all means, seek it out. No doubt you will be riveted and listening closely so you can make an appropriate decision on who to vote for.

I've read everything on her website.  Not more detail as compared to Trump.  Not even close.  I'm just trying to figure out what you're referencing.

[nobody 2,672]

18 hours ago, Horseman said:

I've read everything on her website.  Not more detail as compared to Trump.  Not even close.  I'm just trying to figure out what you're referencing.

Careful.  If you try to ask them for her policy details, they like to throw hissy fits and quit.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

27 minutes ago, nobody said:

Careful.  If you try to ask them for her policy details, they like to throw hissy fits and quit.

And call you racist and a mysoginyst for asking. 

[WhiteWonder 2,738]

On 3/23/2024 at 11:22 AM, listen2me 23 said:

Support it?  Never did.  

Wildy sensationalized and questions of if the government welecomed that to happen, yes still.   

Some bad looking pictures.  There was some violence.   Largely it was a mob of people, a fraction of those that were there that day who got in a frenzy.  Once inside they had no plan or idea what they actually were doing.   Most just casually walked around.  

It lasted a half a day.  People went home.  Cars and buildings werent burned on the exit. Our society stands down to Biden riots going on for months on end terrorizing communities.  Left leaders even justifying it.  But once our great governmental leaders were in harms way then that all of a sudden matters.  Communities during the Biden riots were terrorized much more than AOC.   Regular citizens dont matter tho.  The government has basically told you that.  Some people are on board with that.  They would say thr opposite.  "Government is filled with a bunch of bad people, our citizens need a better life"....but when push came to shove the lefties just walked with those crappy governmental reps.  

I know I know.....IT WAS A THREAT TO DEOMCRACY THATS THE POINT!

 

this

[jbycho 754]

What happened on January 6th?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

There were some people over prosecuted from Jan 6. If he wins, president Trump should look into reducing the sentences and possibly pardoning some of them. Injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere- MLK 

[MDC 7,426]

The guy who called for the Central Park 5 to be executed is going to pardon the 1/6 goons because he cares about justice.  

Trump will pardon them because they support Trump. That’s how it works with the rich and powerful. You do favors for your friends. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Trump called for the perpetrators of the Central Park attack to be executed. Who wouldn’t want that? 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

4 years ago, we remember those that lost their lives in this senseless and traitorous attack.  It's almost impossible to believe that the man that orchestrated this attack 4 years ago will now be certified as our next president.  They say truth is stranger than fiction and today is another example.

4 years ago the right, led by a maniacal villain, attempted to steal an election and destroy democracy.  Today, the left will not do this.  Because the left has honor and integrity and believes in the idea of America.  The left supports democracy.

Tip my hat to the late great President Carter.  It's fitting that the flags are flying half staff today and will continue through Jan 20th.  Thank you President Carter for your service.

May God Bless America as we embark on this dark time.

[Maximum Overkill 1,988]

2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

years ago, we remember those that lost their lives in this senseless and traitorous attack.  It's almost impossible to believe that the man that orchestrated this attack 4 years ago will now be certified as our next president.  They say truth is stranger than fiction and today is another example.

Stop being a Biatch 

Liberal policies have been attacking this Country forever. Go cry somewhere else