Bill Maher on Hollywood pedos and Drag Queen story hour

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Fair question.  I'll say a few things.

1. There are more factors than "pedos go there."  We would need to know how many/what percentage, for instance (I don't know).

2. There is significant value to the child in scouts, and church, and sports, which must weigh against the risk of abuse.  There is very little value to the child with a drag queen other than the excitement of a brightly colored freak show.

That all being said, I somewhat regret going down the pedo rabbit hole, because that's not my main concern.  My main concern is confusing young children about gender norms.  As Maher also points out, children are not "miniature adults."  They are empty vessels begging to be filled with how to become a well-adjusted, functioning adult.  At 5 years old, we should teach two genders.  This "you can be whatever you want to be" is inane at that age.  They want us to teach them, they NEED us to teach them.

I fundamentally disagree with you on two points here. First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children. Please scroll up and read my response to @Nomad99 regarding this question. 

Second, I don’t believe that drag queens, and gay people in general, should be regarded as “abnormal” by society. Indeed my goal is to have them be treated as normal. 

[jonnyutah 122]

30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I fundamentally disagree with you on two points here. First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children. Please scroll up and read my response to @Nomad99 regarding this question. 

Second, I don’t believe that drag queens, and gay people in general, should be regarded as “abnormal” by society. Indeed my goal is to have them be treated as normal. 

Be more subtle. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,709]

34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I fundamentally disagree with you on two points here. First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children. Please scroll up and read my response to @Nomad99 regarding this question. 

Second, I don’t believe that drag queens, and gay people in general, should be regarded as “abnormal” by society. Indeed my goal is to have them be treated as normal. 

They aren’t normal. Duh. 

[jerryskids 5,215]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I fundamentally disagree with you on two points here. First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children. Please scroll up and read my response to @Nomad99 regarding this question. 

Second, I don’t believe that drag queens, and gay people in general, should be regarded as “abnormal” by society. Indeed my goal is to have them be treated as normal. 

I went back and read it.  And then I read Nomad's response to you.

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You are a complete douche for cherry picking. My post.....you completely & intentionally omitted my comments on the entire subject.....you weak, pathetic, no moral fool.

This is basically how I feel, you addressed none of my points.  There is no "tremendous value" TO THE 5 YR OLD CHILDREN to receive confusing messages about gender so that drag queens can feel normal.  The value is to the drag queens, in not only acceptance but, possibly (as per my earlier points) growing their ranks through such confusion.

And... I hate to drop another reality bomb on you, but drag queens are extremely abnormal.  My daughter has Type 1 diabetes, that is abnormal.  She cannot, or cannot easily, become a pilot, join the military, do many other things.  Society has decided, rightfully so, that you can't just pretend away her abnormality and put her in situations which are not good for society in general because it hurts her feelings.  Similarly, drag queens should not read to impressionable 5 yr olds because it would hurt their feelings to do otherwise.

Feel free to extend this analogy to things like:  biological men in women's sports.

Finally, shame on you for lumping drag queens in with all gays.  Comparing the two is extremely disrespectful to non-drag gay people.

[Maximum Overkill 679]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children.

You Pedocrats are sick!!

Why do Drag Queens always need to be around Children and why would any parent be ok with that? 

There's NO reason ANY CHILD needs to be around a Drag Queen. 

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I went back and read it.  And then I read Nomad's response to you.

This is basically how I feel, you addressed none of my points.  There is no "tremendous value" TO THE 5 YR OLD CHILDREN to receive confusing messages about gender so that drag queens can feel normal.  The value is to the drag queens, in not only acceptance but, possibly (as per my earlier points) growing their ranks through such confusion.

And... I hate to drop another reality bomb on you, but drag queens are extremely abnormal.  My daughter has Type 1 diabetes, that is abnormal.  She cannot, or cannot easily, become a pilot, join the military, do many other things.  Society has decided, rightfully so, that you can't just pretend away her abnormality and put her in situations which are not good for society in general because it hurts her feelings.  Similarly, drag queens should not read to impressionable 5 yr olds because it would hurt their feelings to do otherwise.

Feel free to extend this analogy to things like:  biological men in women's sports.

Finally, shame on you for lumping drag queens in with all gays.  Comparing the two is extremely disrespectful to non-drag gay people.

I’m sorry about your daughter and I wish the best for you and her. But she has a disease. Comparing her disease ti  a drag queen who is a normal healthy person who chooses to live a flamboyant lifestyle, is frankly offensive. 

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

47 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You Pedocrats are sick!!

Why do Drag Queens always need to be around Children and why would any parent be ok with that? 

There's NO reason ANY CHILD needs to be around a Drag Queen. 

Strongly disagree. I would like children to learn that there is nothing wrong with being a drag queen. They are normal decent people who have chosen a certain lifestyle and profession, like other entertainers. The best way for children to learn this truth is to be around them. Not by taking them to a show- I don’t think it’s appropriate to expose children to any kind of sexual entertainment- but having the drag queens read to them at libraries, speak to them- that’s a good thing and I’m all for it. 

[jonnyutah 122]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You Pedocrats are sick!!

Why do Drag Queens always need to be around Children and why would any parent be ok with that? 

There's NO reason ANY CHILD needs to be around a Drag Queen. 

There is no reason for sane adults to be around drag queens either.

World was a better place when we didnt treat every freak like they are special flowers. 

 

[Maximum Overkill 679]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

They are normal decent people who have chosen a certain lifestyle

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think it’s appropriate to expose children to any kind of sexual entertainment

Yo, WTF is wrong with you??? 

There is NOTHING normal about drag queens and it is 100% sexual. If not then what exactly is it and why do children need to know anything about them?

Maybe your Children, not mine. 

You'd probably sell your Children to the neighbor, that's what I hear when you talk out loud. 

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Yo, WTF is wrong with you??? 

There is NOTHING normal about drag queens and it is 100% sexual. If not then what exactly is it and why do children need to know anything about them?

Maybe your Children, not mine. 

You'd probably sell your Children to the neighbor, that's what I hear when you talk out loud. 

Yo, WTF is agony with YOU?? You seek to  instill your own fear and bigotry of gay people in your children. Thats sick man. Hopefully society wins out and your kids will be more woke than you are: 

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

https://readingpartners.org/blog/drag-story-hour/

Good wrote up here. Some of you need to get a clue. 

[BeachGuy23 527]

12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I fundamentally disagree with you on two points here. First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children. Please scroll up and read my response to @Nomad99 regarding this question. 

Second, I don’t believe that drag queens, and gay people in general, should be regarded as “abnormal” by society. Indeed my goal is to have them be treated as normal. 

Dude there is ZERO value having drag queens read to kids.  There is ZERO value having drag queens around kids period.  And yes, drag queens and trannies are not normal compared to the general population.  They are free to do as they please in private but they need to STFU about their sexuality in public, just like we heteros due.

I get that you're a flaming lib boyo but we need to use common sense and make sure that societal norms hold up.

[edjr 5,587]

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Liberalism-Mental-Disorder-Michael-Savage/dp/1595550437

[edjr 5,587]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

There is NOTHING normal about drag queens and it is 100% sexual. If not then what exactly is it and why do children need to know anything about them?

This is pretty simple for even Timmah.

Do drag queens wear stripper heels?  Quiz over. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,130]

On 4/20/2024 at 12:46 PM, The Real timschochet said:

I used to really like him. And he’s still funny at times. But I strongly disagree with him about this and other woke issues. 

Bill Maher is an actual "Democrat".  Anyone who considers themselves as a member of the Left, and doesn't like Maher, is a "Leftist".

[edjr 5,587]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Bill Maher is an actual "Democrat".  Anyone who considers themselves as a member of the Left, and doesn't like Maher, is a "Leftist".

Nailed it

Good way of thinking of politics

 

Tim/Squizzy-------------------------------------------------- - Bill Maher ------------------- edjr -------------------- Kevin McCarthy------------------------------------------------------------ Trump

[BeachGuy23 527]

10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Bill Maher is an actual "Democrat".  Anyone who considers themselves as a member of the Left, and doesn't like Maher, is a "Leftist".

Mostly agree.

[The Real timschochet 2,991]

10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Bill Maher is an actual "Democrat".  Anyone who considers themselves as a member of the Left, and doesn't like Maher, is a "Leftist".

So stupid. 

Yes in your terms I am to the left of Bill Maher on the issue of drag queens reading to children. On most economic issues I am far to the right of Bill Maher. This is why your pronouncements are so dumb. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,130]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So stupid. 

Yes in your terms I am to the left of Bill Maher on the issue of drag queens reading to children. On most economic issues I am far to the right of Bill Maher. This is why your pronouncements are so dumb. 

My pronouncements are ALWAYS correct.

For example, Republican politicians and their media suck... the Democrat politicians and media are the worst kinds of people on the planet and the worst to ever exist.  They are complete scum.

 

To note, more evidence that the Democrat party is the party that's moving left (not the Conservative party moving right), Bill Maher is a good barometer.  The only issue that the Left love about Maher and the Right hate him on, is Trump.  He has a severe case of TDS.  That aside, most conservatives agree with Maher on many topics.  Most Democrats only agree with Maher on his very few most leftist stances.  Meaning, being a classic Democrat, he's almost a conservative by today's political environment.

[TBayXXXVII 2,130]

43 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Mostly agree.

You're correct.  People don't have to agree with what he says, everyone can vary on their opinions.  It's more of, if you don't think he's hard enough on his positions.

[Fireballer 2,392]

Y’all are missing the bigger picture.  The most important part of what he said was, and I’m paraphrasing, that heteronormativity was being lumped in with racism and the evil white patriarchy. This is all part of the larger plan to push far left ideology. The goal is to wreck our institutions and societal norms and “build back better”. The same people pushing this have pushed antifa/Project 1619/CRT/BLM/Free Palestine/Occupy Wall Street/stolen land, etc.  It’s no accident that the true reason for BLM existing was to “center black trans lives” and destroy the nuclear family.  This garbage is in schools because of radical leftist teachers unions, not the sudden blossoming of young trans and gay population.

[squistion 900]

27 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Y’all are missing the bigger picture.  The most important part of what he said was, and I’m paraphrasing, that heteronormativity was being lumped in with racism and the evil white patriarchy. This is all part of the larger plan to push far left ideology. The goal is to wreck our institutions and societal norms and “build back better”. The same people pushing this have pushed antifa/Project 1619/CRT/BLM/Free Palestine/Occupy Wall Street/stolen land, etc.  It’s no accident that the true reason for BLM existing was to “center black trans lives” and destroy the nuclear family.  This garbage is in schools because of radical leftist teachers unions, not the sudden blossoming of young trans and gay population.

Yeah, that's all part of the left's larger plan. 

[Fireballer 2,392]

8 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, all that part of the left's larger plan. 

It’s literally the same song and dance from all of the movements I mentioned.  Everything has to be dismantle on the basis of some leftist grievance. Sorry you can’t see it. Antifa and BLM are literally the same people.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

42 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Y’all are missing the bigger picture.  The most important part of what he said was, and I’m paraphrasing, that heteronormativity was being lumped in with racism and the evil white patriarchy. This is all part of the larger plan to push far left ideology. The goal is to wreck our institutions and societal norms and “build back better”. The same people pushing this have pushed antifa/Project 1619/CRT/BLM/Free Palestine/Occupy Wall Street/stolen land, etc.  It’s no accident that the true reason for BLM existing was to “center black trans lives” and destroy the nuclear family.  This garbage is in schools because of radical leftist teachers unions, not the sudden blossoming of young trans and gay population.

Taken right out of the Marxists/Communist playbook.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

16 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It’s literally the same song and dance from all of the movements I mentioned.  Everything has to be dismantle on the basis of some leftist grievance. Sorry you can’t see it. Antifa and BLM are literally the same people.

You're arguing with a zealot, you know that, right?  He's a slave to his cult leaders.  He would believe the earth was flat if the DNC or any of his far-left masters told him it was.

Scientology only wishes it has as loyal zealots as Squidtard.

[TBayXXXVII 2,130]

25 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, that's all part of the left's larger plan. 

That actually IS the plan.  If you can't see that, then that's your problem.  It'll be funny how if that time comes, because the right can't fend it off, how you'll attack the right for causing it.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,709]

28 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, that's all part of the left's larger plan. 

Cloward- Piven. Educate yourself. 

[Fireballer 2,392]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Cloward- Piven. Educate yourself. 

Bingo

[squistion 900]

16 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It’s literally the same song and dance from all of the movements I mentioned.  Everything has to be dismantle on the basis of some leftist grievance. Sorry you can’t see it. Antifa and BLM are literally the same people.

That is literally absurd. There is no proof those organizations are the same people or connected in any way (if you can even call Antifa an organization). That crackpot, Rockaction, on the PSF claimed that, but the only evidence he could offer was one New Yorker article quoting one BLM member (just one and only one) saying Antifa was working with BLM.

[Fireballer 2,392]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

That is literally absurd. There is no proof those organizations are the same people or connected in any way (if you can even call Antifa an organization). That crackpot, Rockaction, on the PSF claimed that, but the only evidence he could offer was one New Yorker article quoting one BLM member (just one and only one) saying Antifa was working with BLM.

I’m sure there’s still plenty of tidbits on social media that you can connects the dots. I know for a fact that data gleaned from phone records and social media via search warrant connects key anti-fascists and BLM orchestrating months long riots in a large urban city.  If you know key players you can connects the dots through replies, posts, and retweets on Twitter accounts from 2020.  And their ties to teachers unions are there too. 

[jerryskids 5,215]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Yeah, that's all part of the left's larger plan. 

You know nothing about Marxism.  Let's start with its opposition to the nuclear family, which you objected to in Fireballer's post:

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Marxist perspectives on family

Now that we have outlined the general thesis of Marxism, let us consider the Marxist perspectives on the family.

Marxists see each institution of society as performing the role of upholding the capitalist superstructure, which ultimately helps to sustain a capitalist society.

In line with this, Marxists state that the function of the family is to maintain the capitalist superstructure of society. According to followers of the theory, capitalism created the system of what we know as the privatised, monogamous nuclear family.

What is a nuclear family?

A nuclear family refers to a traditional family structure consisting of a two-parent family with one or more children. The classic idea of a nuclear family is made up of a monogamous, heterosexual couple.

According to Marxist sociologists, this family structure enables the bourgeoisie (the elite ruling class) to pass down their capital and private property to their children. This reinforces social class inequalities.

The nuclear family serves the interest of the capitalist system in several ways:

• The family reproduces the next generation of workers that will be exploited as labour-power by the capitalist systems of production.

• It socialises children into accepting capitalist ideologies and authority, which prepares them to accept control and exploitation in the workplace. This makes both the parents and children think the exploitation is 'normal' and creates false class consciousness.

Thus, the nuclear family is only beneficial to capitalism and the ruling class.

https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/social-studies/families-and-households/marxist-perspectives/#:~:text=Marxists see the role and,could pass down private property.

This is seen by the progressive push in the past 60 years to laud single parents, divorce for the slightest unhappiness, polygamy, alternate sexuality.

HTH, but I somehow doubt it.  

[BeachGuy23 527]

Tim does not represent the vast majority of the democratic party.  Only the most extreme would hold his views on drag queens and trannies reading to children or being around them at all.

I'm embarrassed that Biden has to go out of his way to acknowledge these people and give them positions just because of their stupid sexuality. 

[squistion 900]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You know nothing about Marxism.  Let's start with its opposition to the nuclear family, which you objected to in Fireballer's post:

https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/social-studies/families-and-households/marxist-perspectives/#:~:text=Marxists see the role and,could pass down private property.

This is seen by the progressive push in the past 60 years to laud single parents, divorce for the slightest unhappiness, monogamy, alternate sexuality.

HTH, but I somehow doubt it.  

I understand enough about Marxism to know that the Antifa anarchists have nothing to do with it. If you ask an Antifa member, "Are you a Communist?" They will answer, "No, I am anti-fascist."

[jerryskids 5,215]

9 minutes ago, squistion said:

I understand enough about Marxism to know that the Antifa anarchists have nothing to do with it. If you ask an Antifa member, "Are you a Communist?" They will answer, "No, I am anti-fascist."

Wow, this is incredibly uninformed.  Communism is deeply tied to the anti-fascist movement.

Simple Google search:  https://www.google.com/search?q=is+antifa+marxist&oq=is+antifa+marxist&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAtIBCDM4MTdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

From the Time interview in the link:

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It does seem like people get taught in school a lot more about the rise of fascism than about the resistance to it. Why do you think that history isn’t better known?

I think part of it is because the anti-fascist resistance came predominantly from leftist movements — including the Communist Party, Socialist Party and anarchists — so generally there was a tendency to minimize what happened. Most people’s knowledge of fascist history is centered around Nazi Germany, and even there you don’t really learn a lot about the anti-fascist resistance through the ‘20s and early ‘30s, again because, I think, it was predominantly communist or leftist-based.

Or pick just about any article from that search.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

I understand enough about Marxism to know that the Antifa anarchists have nothing to do with it. If you ask an Antifa member, "Are you a Communist?" They will answer, "No, I am anti-fascist."

Huh? 

Wow.  You are INCREDIBLY uninformed about history.  Maybe stop believing what your plantation masters tell you and start using your own brain for once.  Just for once, give it a shot.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,545]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Wow, this is incredibly uninformed.  Communism is deeply tied to the anti-fascist movement.

Simple Google search:  https://www.google.com/search?q=is+antifa+marxist&oq=is+antifa+marxist&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAtIBCDM4MTdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

From the Time interview in the link:

Or pick just about any article from that search.

Simply amazing how much he refuses to believe unless it comes from his masters.  None of the history and facts, but all of the dogma.

I mean, what you posted is actual COMMON knowledge.  It's not even debatable.

[Fireballer 2,392]

On 4/21/2024 at 8:14 PM, The Real timschochet said:

 First I believe there is tremendous value to having drag queens read books to young children.  

 

On 4/20/2024 at 7:51 PM, The Real timschochet said:

It’s a good thing. No grooming involved. 

The jokes just write themselves.  As usual, Tim is spot on.  It’s just reading books. No attempt at manipulation.

As I stated before, ideological grooming is the goal.  Antifa/free Palestine/blm/lgbtq rights/etc are all the same commies. 
 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,709]

43 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

The jokes just write themselves.  As usual, Tim is spot on.  It’s just reading books. No attempt at manipulation.

As I stated before, ideological grooming is the goal.  Antifa/free Palestine/blm/lgbtq rights/etc are all the same commies. 
 

 

Democrats not only support this, they vote for it.