Patented Phil 1,469 Posted June 3, 2024 9 hours ago, torridjoe said: Given that the system is founded to protect white supremacy, it tracks. Why you want that system to work is another matter. Spoken like the dumb Socialist you are. The system may have started out with a heavy protection of white supremacy, but it is anything but that today. But keep pimping that nonsense. It gets you all those black votes which you pedocrats are so dependent on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted June 3, 2024 10 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Spoken like the dumb Socialist you are. The system may have started out with a heavy protection of white supremacy, but it is anything but that today. But keep pimping that nonsense. It gets you all those black votes which you pedocrats are so dependent on. Well, how are grifters going to grift if The reason they're grifting doesn't exist anymore? They have a vested interest to keep repeating that nonsense even though it doesn't exist. They got to continue to try to fool as many people as they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 Biden admin dismisses 350000 "asylum liars" cases in case nobody was paying attention over the weekend more democrat voters, love the way they do this and the lefties here think its all well and good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 3, 2024 A good summary of the polls this weekend: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/maddow/blog/rcna155152 None of them are good for Trump. The assumption, made by many conservatives, that the conviction would help Trump appears to be false…at least so far. Also false is the assumption, made by many people (including me) that this would make no difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Patented Phil said: Spoken like someone who rarely if ever gambles. The answer you gave is the textbook response from about 10-15 years ago. In today’s real world there is rarely if ever 50/50 action on both sides of the line, whether it be on a % of bets or a % of money basis. Oddsmakers today are more inclined to set the line at what they think rather than what the public thinks. And the lines they set on Presidential Odds are THE BEST INDICATOR of the actual election result. But keep posting those generic countrywide poll results, which bear no semblance to how our Republic actually works. Your statement as a general rule is correct. And Trump is still the favorite as I write this. But not a heavy favorite and the odds have tightened: https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/03/trumps-betting-odds-to-win-election-take-hit-after-conviction/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,992 Posted June 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: None of them are good for Trump. The assumption, made by many conservatives, that the conviction would help Trump appears to be false…at least so far. Really? With the polls again? You do know they mean nothing, right? Just ask Killary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: Really? With the polls again? You do know they mean nothing, right? Just ask Killary Upsets can always happen. But the reason they’re called upsets is because they’re unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,992 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Upsets can always happen. But the reason they’re called upsets is because they’re unlikely. This wouldn't be an upset. It's going to be very close no matter who wins. If there is a big winner it will be disenchanted voters smashing the Republican button. Trump either wins easily or loses in a dogfight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Biden admin dismisses 350000 "asylum liars" cases in case nobody was paying attention over the weekend more democrat voters, love the way they do this and the lefties here think its all well and good They can't vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 3, 2024 8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: This wouldn't be an upset. It's going to be very close no matter who wins. If there is a big winner it will be disenchanted voters smashing the Republican button. Trump either wins easily or loses in a dogfight. First off I was referring to 2016 because you brought it up. That WAS an upset, and it doesnt mean the polls were wrong. Polls are a snapshot, the numbers moved. This time around I could see Trump winning easily. I could see a dogfight. I could also see Biden winning easily. All are possible outcomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,992 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: time around I could see Trump winning easily. That would be a shock IMO. I really think it's going to be a dogfight. I do think this whole "witch hunt" will only help Trump. And whether it is or isn't a "witch hunt", doesn't matter. The undecided will see it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 15 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: They can't vote. do you understand how electoral votes are counted, as well as congressional members of congress? move millions of illegals into blue areas, those areas get additional votes, those votes will be blue but yah you think youre so smart not to mention, all those blue areas require no id to vote 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: do you understand how electoral votes are counted, as well as congressional members of congress? move millions of illegals into blue areas, those areas get additional votes, those votes will be blue but yah you think youre so smart not to mention, all those blue areas require no id to vote What states have more illegals? Blue or Red? And no, illegals cannot register to vote, stop spewing BS Tim Pool lover. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 31 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: What states have more illegals? Blue or Red? And no, illegals cannot register to vote, stop spewing BS Tim Pool lover. did I say register? as far as which states, no idea, nor is that relevant, example they add more illegals to a blue city, it now gets additional congressional seats, more congressional districts, which is why idiots like you cried that Trump wanted to ask legal status for the census illegals should be counted as far as people, but SHOULD not effect congressional districts in state or federal voting ill make it real simple for you which party loves illegal immigration, and why is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 39 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: did I say register? as far as which states, no idea, nor is that relevant, example they add more illegals to a blue city, it now gets additional congressional seats, more congressional districts, which is why idiots like you cried that Trump wanted to ask legal status for the census illegals should be counted as far as people, but SHOULD not effect congressional districts in state or federal voting ill make it real simple for you which party loves illegal immigration, and why is that? You have to register to vote, dummy. Also Quote In other words, in 2020, if immigrants lacking permanent legal status hadn’t been included in population counts, two red states and one blue state would have gained a seat, and two red states and one blue state would have lost a seat. A wash, politically speaking, when it comes to balance in the House or electoral votes. To add some perspective, over the last 10 elections, presidents have won by an average of about 176 electoral votes over the runner-up — though in 2000, Republican George W. Bush beat Democrat Al Gore by just five Electoral College votes. In the 2020 election, Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by 74 electoral votes. In other words, there is no evidence that the inclusion of immigrants living in the country illegally in census counts and apportionment calculations has swung a presidential election to one party or another. And in 2020, it did not affect the partisan majority in the House. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/elon-musk-overstates-partisan-impact-of-illegal-immigration-on-house-apportionment/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: You have to register to vote, dummy. Also https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/elon-musk-overstates-partisan-impact-of-illegal-immigration-on-house-apportionment/ when did I say ANYTHING ABOUT REGISTERING you can literally walk into any voting booth in california unregistered and vote without registering or proving who you are and again, you fail to look at the long game, add 1 million illegals to blue CITIES not states and eventually that state flips 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 3, 2024 Damn Gutterboy, following along in a conversation you’re involved in is useless. It’s as if you don’t read things you don’t like. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 24 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: when did I say ANYTHING ABOUT REGISTERING you can literally walk into any voting booth in california unregistered and vote without registering or proving who you are and again, you fail to look at the long game, add 1 million illegals to blue CITIES not states and eventually that state flips What? Anyone can vote in California? Legal, illegal, unregistered? You are one retarded ass hole https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/voting-california/who-can-vote-california 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 21 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: What? Anyone can vote in California? Legal, illegal, unregistered? You are one retarded ass hole https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voting-resources/voting-california/who-can-vote-california ffs retard, yes you can walk into ANY voting place and claim to be whoever the fock you want, is it that hard to understand? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 27 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: ffs retard, yes you can walk into ANY voting place and claim to be whoever the fock you want, is it that hard to understand? No that isn't true. I notice that you haven't provided a link, which proves it is just some unverified rumor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 5 minutes ago, squistion said: No that isn't true. I notice that you haven't provided a link, which proves it is just some unverified rumor. really, so I dont go in every single year tell them my name, and they hand me a ballot to go vote? never have showed ID to verify who I am sign on the line, nothing to match it to there is your focking link 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: really, so I dont go in every single year tell them my name, and they hand me a ballot to go vote? never have showed ID to verify who I am sign on the line, nothing to match it to there is your focking link There still needs to be a registered voter. Illegals can't just go and vote. Yes an illegal can figure out who you are, where your polling location is, lie and say they are you, Dummy McMelonhead, and match the signature, to USE your vote, but that's a real stretch. You're really reaching on your arguments here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: really, so I dont go in every single year tell them my name, and they hand me a ballot to go vote? never have showed ID to verify who I am sign on the line, nothing to match it to there is your focking link So you are already registered to vote, you neglected to mention that previously. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: There still needs to be a registered voter. Illegals can't just go and vote. Yes an illegal can figure out who you are, where your polling location is, lie and say they are you, Dummy McMelonhead, and match the signature, to USE your vote, but that's a real stretch. You're really reaching on your arguments here. god damn, you are a focktard, I never even said they do, I don't claim voter fraud, all I was initially talking about is importing illegals for congressional control and yes the hypothetical is 100% possible and can happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, squistion said: So you are already registered to vote, you neglected to mention that previously. you don't need to be registered to vote, to actually vote fwiw, thats what a provisional ballot is for "also same day registration" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: There still needs to be a registered voter. Illegals can't just go and vote. Yes an illegal can figure out who you are, where your polling location is, lie and say they are you, Dummy McMelonhead, and match the signature, to USE your vote, but that's a real stretch. You're really reaching on your arguments here. I have lived in California for decades and I don't recall of hearing about anyone who was registered being impersonated by someone who voted in their place (it probably has happened but it must be a really race occurrence). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: god damn, you are a focktard, I never even said they do, I don't claim voter fraud, all I was initially talking about is importing illegals for congressional control and yes the hypothetical is 100% possible and can happen No you said more democratic voters 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: more democrat voters See I just quoted you. And for congressional control, I shot that argument down as well. Go touch grass and stop jo'ing to Tim Pool. Learn something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you don't need to be registered to vote, to actually vote fwiw, thats what a provisional ballot is for "also same day registration" For a provisional ballot to be counted, it has to be verified you are a registered voter: https://www.vote411.org/node/8173 You may be asked to vote a provisional ballot if you meet specific criteria, including: You believe you are registered to vote even though your name is not on the official voter registration list at the polling place You signed up to vote by mail but want to vote at your polling place or vote center and you didn't receive or you didn't bring your vote by mail ballot with you and the election official is unable to verify that you have not returned your vote-by-mail ballot. If you are asked to vote a provisional ballot it will be counted after elections officials confirm you are registered to vote and haven't already voted in that election. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you don't need to be registered to vote, to actually vote fwiw, thats what a provisional ballot is for "also same day registration" You still need to be registered to vote to use a provisional ballot. Punch out man, this is embarrassing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: No you said more democratic voters See I just quoted you. And for congressional control, I shot that argument down as well. Go touch grass and stop jo'ing to Tim Pool. Learn something. yep eventually, this is true as well, they will be registered voters especially if some retard like reagan grants amnesty and ok you got it, I will listen to the MSDNC like you retards do maybe you should go listen to someone like Dave Smith, Patrick Bet David, hell leftist socialist Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand as far as you "shooting down" that argument, a dumbass like you would have said there is no proof amnesty turned California blue, yet 30 years later all those voters and their kids are democrats that got granted amnesty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 8 minutes ago, squistion said: For a provisional ballot to be counted, it has to be verified you are a registered voter: https://www.vote411.org/node/8173 You may be asked to vote a provisional ballot if you meet specific criteria, including: You believe you are registered to vote even though your name is not on the official voter registration list at the polling place You signed up to vote by mail but want to vote at your polling place or vote center and you didn't receive or you didn't bring your vote by mail ballot with you and the election official is unable to verify that you have not returned your vote-by-mail ballot. If you are asked to vote a provisional ballot it will be counted after elections officials confirm you are registered to vote and haven't already voted in that election. false https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/same-day-voter-registration-california-2024/ People who do same-day voter registration will get a provisional ballot that will become official once the citizen's information has been verified. It could take up to several weeks before the ballot is confirmed and then counted. You may be contacted by the county's voter registrar's office to confirm or correct information before your ballot is confirmed. With the state moving to vote-by-mail, California's election results have been taking weeks to become certified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yep eventually, this is true as well, they will be registered voters eventually especially if some retard like reagan grants amnesty and ok you got it, I will listen to the MSDNC like you retards do Well wouldn't you want to know the truth? I mean you started by saying that there will be more Dem voters, then electoral college voters and congressional appointments. I countered all of that with facts. Maybe if you branched out you might learn something and stop repeating lies. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: false https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/same-day-voter-registration-california-2024/ People who do same-day voter registration will get a provisional ballot that will become official once the citizen's information has been verified. It could take up to several weeks before the ballot is confirmed and then counted. You may be contacted by the county's voter registrar's office to confirm or correct information before your ballot is confirmed. With the state moving to vote-by-mail, California's election results have been taking weeks to become certified. So same day voter registration is registering to vote, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: false https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/same-day-voter-registration-california-2024/ People who do same-day voter registration will get a provisional ballot that will become official once the citizen's information has been verified. It could take up to several weeks before the ballot is confirmed and then counted. You may be contacted by the county's voter registrar's office to confirm or correct information before your ballot is confirmed. With the state moving to vote-by-mail, California's election results have been taking weeks to become certified. That doesn't contradict what I posted. From above: People who do same-day voter registration will get a provisional ballot that will become official once the citizen's information has been verified. It could take up to several weeks before the ballot is confirmed and then counted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Well wouldn't you want to know the truth? I mean you started by saying that there will be more Dem voters, then electoral college voters and congressional appointments. I countered all of that with facts. Maybe if you branched out you might learn something and stop repeating lies. Just a thought. the truth is this, someone like you would have been here arguing that amnesty didnt help democrat voters, yet we see that id did exactly that, the kids of the ones granted amnesty vote blue, as republicans in california fight to take away benefits from illegals, they don't want that to happen amnesty is what turned California blue, it was red/purple prior to that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, GutterBoy said: So same day voter registration is registering to vote, right? I would think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted June 3, 2024 Just now, squistion said: That doesn't contradict what I posted. From above: People who do same-day voter registration will get a provisional ballot that will become official once the citizen's information has been verified. It could take up to several weeks before the ballot is confirmed and then counted. like I said, you can get a provisional ballot for same day voting, show me where I said opposite also you can vote for me if you have my information, also true and if you think they do signature verification....sure guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: the truth is this, someone like you would have been here arguing that amnesty didnt help democrat voters, yet we see that id did exactly that, the kids of the ones granted amnesty vote blue, as republicans in california fight to take away benefits from illegals, they don't want that to happen amnesty is what turned California blue, it was red/purple prior to that Deeper than that, according to this article. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2018/10/how-california-shifted-from-pro-gop-purple-to-deep-blue/ For someone that hires illegals, you sure seem to hate them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted June 3, 2024 This recent Dr. Jill interview can’t help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 3, 2024 27 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: This recent Dr. Jill interview can’t help Dr. Jill spent her birthday in court for the crackhead sexual deviant grifter she helped raise. Hunter called her an entitled kunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites