Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

22 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Your first article is behind a paywall.  But please, could you expound on the nuance of the other 2 articles that is the “ opposite” of Kamala polling only 50% of where Joe was in 2020?  I must have missed it.  Or, just more anecdotes?

That’s all we have now are anecdotes. Even Enten’s numbers are from Sunday, the day Biden quit. We will have a better indication in a week or so. 

I think she’s going to get a huge number of young people, and to answer your question in the other thread, a huge number of black voters? How much? Couldn’t tell you. Enough to win the election, how’s that? 

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Joe Biden is a quitter 

 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,094]

This is truly Orwellian. You don’t hate them enough.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

12 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

This is truly Orwellian. You don’t hate them enough.

 

You made this point at least 4 or 5 times yesterday and now you’re making it this morning? It’s not getting any stronger. 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

It’s so ironic that people around here accuse me of trolling for offering my opinions and engaging in discussion. One thing I NEVER do is post these dumb videos and internet memes over and over. To me that’s the definition of trolling. They bring absolutely nothing to this forum, IMO. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You made this point at least 4 or 5 times yesterday and now you’re making it this morning? It’s not getting any stronger. 

Why is it important for the MSM to separate her from the title of border czar?

[Fireballer 2,641]

40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s so ironic that people around here accuse me of trolling for offering my opinions and engaging in discussion. One thing I NEVER do is post these dumb videos and internet memes over and over. To me that’s the definition of trolling. They bring absolutely nothing to this forum, IMO. 

Thankfully all you do is post links to articles that you actually read but don’t comprehend that they don’t support your assertions.

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Why is it important for the MSM to separate her from the title of border czar?

Because it’s not accurate. 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Thankfully all you do is post links to articles that you don’t even read yourself.

Nice try. You’re repeating a claim made by a few of my critics. It’s not true, never has been. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Because it’s not accurate. 

Why are there so many references to her being the border czar?  What did the Biden administration do to have the MSM anoint her as such?

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You made this point at least 4 or 5 times yesterday and now you’re making it this morning? It’s not getting any stronger. 

The point should be made until every American citizen understands how corrupt the media truly is. If it takes a million times, so be it.

[Fireballer 2,641]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Nice try. You’re repeating a claim made by a few of my critics. It’s not true, never has been. 

Tim, I’ve read many of your links.  They seldomly add support to your claims.

[Dizkneelande 1,094]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You made this point at least 4 or 5 times yesterday and now you’re making it this morning? It’s not getting any stronger. 

You continue to rewrite history and facts to fit whatever narrative your feeble mind comes up with. Also you.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Why are there so many references to her being the border czar?  What did the Biden administration do to have the MSM anoint her as such?

The MSM bought into the conservative narrative. It’s happened before. They realize their error now. 
 

It’s a dumb label. If you think that Kamala caused problems at the border, or failed to do something, be specific. What powers was she given that she should have used differently? (Hint: she had NO power to do anything.) 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Tim, I’ve read many of your links.  They seldomly add support to your claims.

Not to you. I strongly doubt I could offer you any evidence on any political subject that would penetrate your cognitive dissonance, no offense. Others reading these posts might be more open minded. 

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3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You continue to rewrite history and facts to fit whatever narrative your feeble mind comes up with. Also you.

 

Oh boy

[Fireballer 2,641]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The MSM bought into the conservative narrative. It’s happened before. They realize their error now. 
 

It’s a dumb label. If you think that Kamala caused problems at the border, or failed to do something, be specific. What powers was she given that she should have used differently? (Hint: she had NO power to do anything.) 

Is the MSM noting that this was solely an error on their part calling her that?  

[Dizkneelande 1,094]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The MSM bought into the conservative narrative. It’s happened before. They realize their error now. 
 

It’s a dumb label. If you think that Kamala caused problems at the border, or failed to do something, be specific. What powers was she given that she should have used differently? (Hint: she had NO power to do anything.) 

An amazing feat of power that Fox News was able to brainwash the entirety of the leftist media conglomerate. It just proves how feeble minded the left is. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not to you. I strongly doubt I could offer you any evidence on any political subject that would penetrate your cognitive dissonance, no offense. Others reading these posts might be more open minded. 

Tim, just last night, you offered 2 links “supporting” that Kamala was well ahead of Biden with young people. Neither article supported that.   I specifically asked you for the nuance in the article, and you offered nothing

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28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You made this point at least 4 or 5 times yesterday and now you’re making it this morning? It’s not getting any stronger. 

Much stronger.  Way more than your nonsense.  Media is totally a fraud.

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

12 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Tim, just last night, you offered 2 links “supporting” that Kamala was well ahead of Biden with young people. Neither article supported that.   I specifically asked you for the nuance in the article, and you offered nothing

I offered you anecdotes. I acknowledged that there will be no way to accurately measure this for another couple of weeks. 

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Kamala has a better chance of contesting Trump than Biden did.   How she conducts herself now, and how well they pretend Trump is a threat is essentially all they have left.

[BrahmaBulls 659]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Kamala has a better chance of contesting Trump than Biden did.   How she conducts herself now, and how well they pretend Trump is a threat is essentially all they have left.

This is how I know Kamala sucks.  90% of the talking points regarding her are "Trump is a threat to our democracy".  Haven't heard one thing she actually does positively.

[Fireballer 2,641]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I offered you anecdotes. I acknowledged that there will be no way to accurately measure this for another couple of weeks. 

Tim, call them what you want, but even your anecdotes weren’t the “opposite” of what I posted.  I stand by the assertion that you don’t read the articles you link to.  

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Tim, call them what you want, but even your anecdotes weren’t the “opposite” of what I posted.  I stand by the assertion that you don’t read the articles you link to.  

OK? It’s a false assertion. 

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4 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

This is how I know Kamala sucks.  90% of the talking points regarding her are "Trump is a threat to our democracy".  Haven't heard one thing she actually does positively.

We have the best economy going in the world. That seems to be a good place to start. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK? It’s a false assertion. 

So you really are dumb enough to actually read your links and still post them even though they don’t support your posts?  Ok, maybe I’m wrong, maybe you just can comprehend words.  Anyhoo, your posts suck 99% of the time. I shall amend my post. 

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5 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

This is how I know Kamala sucks.  90% of the talking points regarding her are "Trump is a threat to our democracy".  Haven't heard one thing she actually does positively.

This is the crux of the issue for Democrats, their policy prescriptions are not as good as those of their opponents; in fact their policies are pointedly harmful.

When this is what you have then you really cannot run on what you have done, since the outcomes of your policies are terrible.  They are left with the "throwing the gun" solution they like to use for everything, call your opponents a name, disparage them.....convince your cult followers that it was the fault of the others....

[BrahmaBulls 659]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

We have the best economy going in the world. That seems to be a good place to start. 

Inflation sucks.  What has Kamala done to create the best economy in the world?  

 

[Fireballer 2,641]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK? It’s a false assertion. 

Here I fixed it.  Sorry for the confusion. 
 

41 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Thankfully all you do is post links to articles that you actually read but don’t comprehend that they don’t support your assertions.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So you really are dumb enough to actually read your links and still post them even though they don’t support your posts?  Ok, maybe I’m wrong, maybe you just can comprehend words.  Anyhoo, your posts suck 99% of the time. I shall amend my post. 

Instead why not address my question? If you think Kamala was a failure with regard to the border, please explain what she had the power to do there that she didn’t do? 

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The fat bald troll with the drunk wife is getting hammered this morning.  

Lololololol

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Lib voters are a wishy washy bunch.  Hey not sure if I can go to voting station and pull the Biden lever.  But hey for Kamala who was Biden's VP and had absolutely awful VP approval polling....why not?!   She has color on her skin after all!

[thegeneral 3,119]

4 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Inflation sucks.  What has Kamala done to create the best economy in the world?  

 

Inflation is much improved. She and Joe in charge of best economy going. You can leave it at that. Suck it haters!

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

This is awesome: 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/approve-message-kamala-harris-instantly-081918030.html

She’s wiping the floor with him in every which way. 

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43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The MSM bought into the conservative narrative. It’s happened before. They realize their error now. 
 

It’s a dumb label. If you think that Kamala caused problems at the border, or failed to do something, be specific. What powers was she given that she should have used differently? (Hint: she had NO power to do anything.) 

It is true, though, that when Biden took office Harris was said to be tasked with addressing the border problem.  Will I search online for links?  No, I’m using my memory and it isn’t failing me.

Why are people talking about it now?  Harris was publicly given the job of dealing with that problem and many people assess that it has worsened.

Footnote:  as I believe I’ve said to you previously, I appreciate your civility in these threads.  You have seen me many times championing for more civility from fellow posters and I am thankful for yours.

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23 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Inflation is much improved. She and Joe in charge of best economy going. You can leave it at that. Suck it haters!

What has she done to create the best economy?  Did we not have the best economy in the world under Trump, Obama, Bush, and Clinton too?

[BrahmaBulls 659]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is awesome: 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/approve-message-kamala-harris-instantly-081918030.html

She’s wiping the floor with him in every which way. 

Has she figured out we don't have an alliance with North Korea yet?

[Fireballer 2,641]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Instead why not address my question? If you think Kamala was a failure with regard to the border, please explain what she had the power to do there that she didn’t do? 

I dunno Tim.  See what Joe thinks. The attempt to distance her from the border failure is ludicrous. 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,620]

6 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

It is true, though, that when Biden took office Harris was said to be tasked with addressing the border problem.  Will I search online for links?  No, I’m using my memory and it isn’t failing me.

Why are people talking about it now?  Harris was publicly given the job of dealing with that problem and many people assess that it has worsened.

Footnote:  as I believe I’ve said to you previously, I appreciate your civility in these threads.  You have seen me many times championing for more civility from fellow posters and I am thankful for yours.

I appreciate the kind words. 

Yes this will be a problem for Kamala, mainly because it was implied that she could actually do more than she had the power to do. 

But the entire border issue is, IMO, drenched in falsehoods from the conservative side. There are actually less border crossings right now than there were during the last year of Trump’s first term. Undocumented immigrants are blamed for the rise in violent crime which is false in two ways: we have record lows in violent crime (so there is no rise) and undocumented immigrants commit far less of it, by percentage, than do native born Americans. Finally Trump’s proposed “solution” to this issue, mass deportation of millions of people, would be so catastrophic to our economy and so horrific that it makes any mistakes Biden might have made pale in comparison. 

Hopefully Kamala can make these points effectively, mainly because they’re all true. But I’m worried. The notion that somehow Trump is right on this issue, false as that is, is already entrenched in the American public, mostly due to good messaging by conservatives and very poor messaging by the administration. Not sure that can be changed, or even neutralized, in a few months.