Ray_T 740 Posted October 17, 2024 10 hours ago, Gepetto said: With Deshaun Watson's talent and previous success, if they can't get more from him, it's on the coaches as much as it's on him. who was his OC when he threw for all those yards before he was suspended. he was able to get production out of the guy. maybe bring him in. at this point getting him to a point where he is productive needs to be the #1 priority. its not like they have a choice with the giant guarantee and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,154 Posted October 17, 2024 I think his problem is more mental than talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, weepaws said: I think his problem is more mental than talent. That could be, and they should evaluate if that's the case, and if it is, have a sports psychologist work with him to get past the mental part of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 149 Posted October 17, 2024 5 hours ago, weepaws said: I think his problem is more mental than talent. Kinda like you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,564 Posted October 17, 2024 10 hours ago, weepaws said: I think his problem is more mental than talent. I agree. Same as Tiger Woods. They're never the same after their secrets come to light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted October 19, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 8:57 AM, kilroy69 said: The thing is there is NO way to just hang it on the GM. Jimmy Haslem HAD to be a large part of this. The ONLY way for the browns to get out of this is to have a fire sale and be ok with the fact they are going to have to play practice squad players for 2 years till they get out from under watsons salary cap hit. I mean they were terrible for so long, might as well lean into it again and get some good picks for the next few years. If I were Haslem I would not fire the GM or the coach. Be up front and honest with them. Were tanking to get out of the mess I put you in. We are going to have to rebuild using the draft and the practice squads of all 32 teams. Watson throwing to practice squad players is going to be just as good as what he is doing now. Which is nothing. as the owner you dont have to take the blame. you can blame anyone you want in the organization and fire them. fans may know but their opinion likely doesnt matter to him He will eventually blame the GM and fire him even if the idea was his in the first place. Thats the way these things go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted October 19, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 10:52 PM, weepaws said: I think his problem is more mental than talent. of course it is. there are plenty of cases where people have off field issues (not just in football) and then their on field game suffers as a result. the problem is his mind isnt only on football. dude has other problems and lots of them. This is a mental game. moreso for QB than any other position. if your head isnt in the game, you just are not gonna perform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted October 20, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 10:26 PM, Ray_T said: I think Cooper was a Malcontent and they dumped him before he started airing out his grievances publicly. I'm not sure they are giving up, but what they dont need is the #1 WR bashing their starting QB that they paid way too much for. I think this was a damage control move. I could be wrong, but I get the impression Cooper didnt want to be there. I don't think so. I just heard Nick Sabin talking about Amari Cooper. He said Amari Cooper is extremely quiet and almost never speaks. He said he was a great football player and never complained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,659 Posted October 20, 2024 K. Swift, M'homey and maybe the kicker/defense are the only lock starts. WR, XW and JuJu are your safest bets imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 740 Posted October 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Gepetto said: I don't think so. I just heard Nick Sabin talking about Amari Cooper. He said Amari Cooper is extremely quiet and almost never speaks. He said he was a great football player and never complained. just because hes quiet doesnt mean he is happy. but either way it no longer matters. so pointless to speculate on it now. his one comment when his trade ended up not happening his twitter post suggested he didnt care if he was being traded away and thats where I got the feeling he didnt love it there. but maybe I was looking too deep into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites