So a person tried to assassinate Trump

[Herbivore 1,134]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Wait what?

 

yeah, that was a crazy post

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

The war didn't need to happen at all.  It's 100% Putin's fault.  He invaded Ukraine.  Anything else is just appeasement and apologies.

Never said it wasn't his fault. (Mostly).   I said world powers could have came together better to talk it down.  Im sure they have had talks.  Wasn't enough in the early stages.   

Like I said, Ukraine thread this is off topic.  But if Canada was 5 countries and Russia buddied with one or 2 to put bases on our border....what do you think our response would be?   Honestly.   

Putin is a mobster who doesn't care about people.   Doesn't make me some Putin fan to say this stuff.  Yeah its ultimately his doing.  

Test run while Obama was in office.  Thrn go for it when Biden is in.   But its Trump’s buddy and it would be worse under Trump?  Explain how you can arrive to that?

[thegeneral 3,214]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I meant he said it early on as if he would have squashed this shortly in.   He may have said it another time as in right now.  Like I said maybe he doubled down.  But I remember him saying this early on when it really escalated.   A while ago.  

Oh gotcha. I don’t know last time he has said this one day plan BS. If he doesn’t end funding I don’t see how the MAGA wing in Congress doesn’t totally melt down - other than just being beholden to whatever he does.

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Oh gotcha. I don’t know last time he has said this one day plan BS. If he doesn’t end funding I don’t see how the MAGA wing in Congress doesn’t totally melt down - other than just being beholden to whatever he does.

I guess I don't know what exactly his first step would be.  But is it not reasonable to imagine it is not all at once and just says hey Putin no need to talk.  Have at it. ? Which seems to be the 100% prediction amongst Libs that believe their party relentlessly.  Maybe not you but that seems to be the narrative.  

What if Trump gets an agreement down Russia takes some land and we cut funding at a medium pace?  What would you then say?  Would it be terrible?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

yeah, that was a crazy post

It's really odd.  Trump runs around saying Russia Russia Russia and people think that means he had nothing to do with Russia.  It's proven fact that Russia interfered with the 2016 election in order to get Trump elected.

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

It's really odd.  Trump runs around saying Russia Russia Russia and people think that means he had nothing to do with Russia.  It's proven fact that Russia interfered with the 2016 election in order to get Trump elected.

Through memes?  

Settle down.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

I guess I don't know what exactly his first step would be.  But is it not reasonable to imagine it is not all at once and just says hey Putin no need to talk.  Have at it. ? Which seems to be the 100% prediction amongst Libs that believe their party relentlessly.  Maybe not you but that seems to be the narrative.  

What if Trump gets an agreement down Russia takes some land and we cut funding at a medium pace?  What would you then say?  Would it be terrible?

If Ukraine wants to keep going I am for funding them. Fock Putin and the horse he rode in on.

How realistic it is they get their land back I don’t know but as far as I know they want to keep up their fight. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Through memes?  

Settle down.  

There is a good documentary out there called "Agents of Chaos" on Max.  Very interesting, if you want to learn something.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

So Gutterboy, Rusty and the rest of the TDS inflicted have spent the last 4 days trying to come up with a motive for why this leftist kid would try and kill Trump, yet they and the rest of the left were and remain vehemently against knowing the motive for why a deranged left wing lunatic would massacre 6 children at a Christian school.  Some of you really need to take a look at yourselves and think about what you have become. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why would Russia hate Trump?

Because the  Russian economy is entirely dependent on oil and gas? Someone has to come along and explain that to you? 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Some of you really need to take a look at yourselves and think about what you have become. 

look in  a mirror

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

If Ukraine wants to keep going I am for funding them. Fock Putin and the horse he rode in on.

How realistic it is they get their land back I don’t know but as far as I know they want to keep up their fight. 

So the precedent is if a non NATO country is attacked we throw the wallet at them?  Sound.  

When Russia took Crimea was it the end of the world?  Why?  Different president?  

Do the civil wars in Africa not matter?  China is taking Africa over by the way.   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

look in  a mirror

Yeah. Funny you need to know the motive of the Trump shooter so bad so you can place blame, and not want the motive of the school shooter so you can obscure blame. What kind of man does that? 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

If Biden were to be reelected.  Lets say eventually this ends and Russia takes land.  Libs would adore him for ending the war.  

You know it.  I know it.  

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Because the  Russian economy is entirely dependent on oil and gas? Someone has to come along and explain that to you? 

I don't go out of my way to be an ass, why must you?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Didn't Russia interfere with the election to help Trump beat Hilary? 

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36 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Your whole position here is right wing. Not my fault you don't see it. 

ok I stand corrected

the centrist position should be

attempted kidnapping of a person not home is exactly the same as an assassination attempt of a presidential candidate

 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Didn't Russia interfere with the election to help Trump beat Hilary? 

yah, I am sure, there was a guy and he was gonna vote for hitlery but he saw a russian ad and voted Trump!

it happened in Wisconsin

honest question, has ANYONE ever come out and said I was gonna vote for hillary but changed cause of an ad campaign?

there has to be one, somewhere, somehow interference!!!

disregard the US and every country always butts their heads into other countries elections

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, you want to know the motive, but if it’s in a manifesto you don’t.  Please. You want to place blame, have from the jump. And you seek to deflect blame. I don’t know, I think knowing the reason why 6 children were gunned down in their school would be a priority if you were actually interested in stopping it in the future. But you’re not. You have a different concern.  

I would think gun control would help avoid children being gunned down in their school, but you're against that.  You just wanna lock doors.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Didn't Russia interfere with the election to help Trump beat Hilary? 

Yes, 100% proven fact.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Ukraine War should be like an arcade game.  You never stop.  You can just keep inserting a quarter.   

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yah, I am sure, there was a guy and he was gonna vote for hitlery but he saw a russian ad and voted Trump!

it happened in Wisconsin

honest question, has ANYONE ever come out and said I was gonna vote for hillary but changed cause of an ad campaign?

 

Let's move the goalpost back to where they were.  Did Russia interfere with the election to try and help him win?  Whether it worked or not is not the point.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I would think gun control would help avoid children being gunned down in their school, but you're against that.  You just wanna lock doors.

Who said just? I didn’t. But it’s a real good idea to start. Some of you think it doesn’t matter. There you go again, making shitt up cuz you can’t hang. . 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Let's move the goalpost back to where they were.  Did Russia interfere with the election to try and help him win?  Whether it worked or not is not the point.

I couldn't care less, I will care when the United States stops interfering with our OWN elections, no to mention other countries

fact: the FBI blocked information pertinent to the election to help Joe Biden win the election

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

The DEI hiring at the Secret Service is looking like a big success.   

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I couldn't care less, I will care when the United States stops interfering with our OWN elections, no to mention other countries

fact: the FBI blocked information pertinent to the election to help Joe Biden win the election

 

You are having a completely different conversation.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I would think gun control would help avoid children being gunned down in their school, but you're against that.  You just wanna lock doors.

you know you could protect every single school in the country for the next 10 years with the money weve spent in Ukraine

I am for that

 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You are having a completely different conversation.

no I just don't believe that anything any country did has anything to do with our election

is an endorsement of a presidential candidate interferring?

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I couldn't care less.

 

It seriously doesn't bother you that foreign nations are interfering in US elections?

Man I would think every American would be against that.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Let's move the goalpost back to where they were.  Did Russia interfere with the election to try and help him win?  Whether it worked or not is not the point.

They may have.  I have seen no proof.  I do know Hillary deleted a ton of emails.   They sure didn't start invading countries under Trump.  Only under Obama and Biden.  So question is which matters more? 

Did Russia interfere with the election more than many of our homegrown news anchors and twitter people?  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you know you could protect every single school in the country for the next 10 years with the money weve spent in Ukraine

I am for that

 

How does money protect schools?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

It seriously doesn't bother you that foreign nations are interfering in US elections?

Man I would think every American would be against that.

it bothers me when our own agencies interfere

and those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

I don't care, and I don't care that we influence other countries elections

we by far are the BIGGEST guilty country of that in the world so spare me

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

How does money protect schools?

fencing and armed security at the entrance

done

my son's school is completely safe from shooters

your kids school should be too

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

fencing and armed security at the entrance

done

my son's school is completely safe from shooters

your kids school should be too

 

There is no such thing as completely safe.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no I just don't believe that anything any country did has anything to do with our election

is an endorsement of a presidential candidate interferring?

 

That's not the discussion though.  The question is, does Russia want Trump to be President again.  Whether Russia actually had an affect on the election is not what's important, it's the fact they they tried to do it because they wanted him elected over Clinton.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

6 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

They may have.  I have seen no proof.  I do know Hillary deleted a ton of emails.   They sure didn't start invading countries under Trump.  Only under Obama and Biden.  So question is which matters more? 

Did Russia interfere with the election more than many of our homegrown news anchors and twitter people?  

I think we all know that Russia wanted Trump as President over Clinton during that election.  Now, do they want him as President again this election?  That's the question.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ok I stand corrected

the centrist position should be

attempted kidnapping of a person not home is exactly the same as an assassination attempt of a presidential candidate

 

Sure ignore what I said and what I responded to specifically. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think we all know that Russia wanted Trump as President over Clinton during that election.  Now, do they want him as President again this election?  That's the question.

It is a question.  My counter question would be....what if they do? (Shock horror face)

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I think we all know that Russia wanted Trump as President over Clinton during that election.  Now, do they want him as President again this election?  That's the question.

1)Russia wants the US to stop funding Ukraine

2)Trump has said he will stop funding Ukraine

3)......

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6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

There is no such thing as completely safe.

and there is no such thing as gun control that would prevent it either