Taylor Swift shows in Vienna canceled after 2 arrested for planning terror plot

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Never heard of them, but their website repeatedly says they are not affiliated with any religion or political party, so not sure why you think they are supporting Hamas.

“Its publications erase the context of terrorism and promote the Palestinian narrative while falsely claiming to work with ‘all people living in impoverished communities,’” according to the watchdog group. “Such activity is inconsistent with ANERA’s proclaimed objectives.”  Swift attended the benefit with fellow pop music star Selena Gomez. Model and actress Cara Delevingne, actress Anya Taylor-Joy, and actress and singer Zoë Kravitz were also present.

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As soon as Hauck enters a thread the stupidity goes through the roof. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As soon as Hauck enters a thread the stupidity goes through the roof. 

I'm starting to think that both Tim's are the same person.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm starting to think that both Tim's are the same person.

I love how they play the “I don’t know” bullshitt when confronted with facts.  

[TimHauck 3,305]

31 minutes ago, RLLD said:

“Its publications erase the context of terrorism and promote the Palestinian narrative while falsely claiming to work with ‘all people living in impoverished communities,’” according to the watchdog group. “Such activity is inconsistent with ANERA’s proclaimed objectives.”  Swift attended the benefit with fellow pop music star Selena Gomez. Model and actress Cara Delevingne, actress Anya Taylor-Joy, and actress and singer Zoë Kravitz were also present.

Here is the link to where that quote is from, which includes correspondence between NGO-Monitor and ANERA (probably also worth noting that it’s from 2005):

https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/_american_near_east_refugee_aid_anera_aid_activity_tarnished_by_political_agenda_/

This quote is particularly of note IMO:

“We know as well as anyone that to realize the goals of our mission in a fundamental way, peace between Israel and the Palestinians must be realized. We think our projects help create the environment for this desired peace. And in this context, we implement projects not only with the Palestinians, but also we emphasize Israeli-Arab projects”

Do they have some bias, probably (likely as does the guy who wrote the initial report, I’m sure @Cdub100 noticed his name), but that’s a far cry from supporting Hamas, especially after 10/7/23.

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24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Here is the link to where that quote is from, which includes correspondence between NGO-Monitor and ANERA (probably also worth noting that it’s from 2005):

https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/_american_near_east_refugee_aid_anera_aid_activity_tarnished_by_political_agenda_/

This quote is particularly of note IMO:

“We know as well as anyone that to realize the goals of our mission in a fundamental way, peace between Israel and the Palestinians must be realized. We think our projects help create the environment for this desired peace. And in this context, we implement projects not only with the Palestinians, but also we emphasize Israeli-Arab projects”

Do they have some bias, probably (likely as does the guy who wrote the initial report, I’m sure @Cdub100 noticed his name), but that’s a far cry from supporting Hamas, especially after 10/7/23.

We can agree to disagree. I am sure both sides are very fine people.

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

We can agree to disagree. I am sure both sides are very fine people.

Sure, this argument has already occurred in this forum and just goes in circles, it’s no surprise that GC righties, who were already equating supporting civilians in Gaza as supporting Hamas, to now equating it to apparently supporting all of Islam and all terrorism that is done in the name of it

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17 hours ago, RLLD said:

Good Luck Taylor

I know she is one of those lefties who is deferential to Muslims, I wonder if she understands how much those folks hate her? 

I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but I'm also DEF not a fan of Muslims (any religion for that matter) and terrorism.  I'm glad whatever was planned got found out.

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13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sure, this argument has already occurred in this forum and just goes in circles, it’s no surprise that GC righties, who were already equating supporting civilians in Gaza as supporting Hamas, to now equating it to apparently supporting all of Islam and all terrorism that is done in the name of it

Let's tease this out. Your position is then that supporting a group does not then translate to supporting groups associated with that group, correct?

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12 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but I'm also DEF not a fan of Muslims (any religion for that matter) and terrorism.  I'm glad whatever was planned got found out.

Agree, glad they caught them. Hopefully we have not allowed too many of those same folks to enter this nation.

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Let's tease this out. Your position is then that supporting a group does not then translate to supporting groups associated with that group, correct?

Yes, but depends how you define “associated.” I’d argue that civilians that are being used as human shields by Hamas shouldn’t really considered “associated” with Hamas.

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6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agree, glad they caught them. Hopefully we have not allowed too many of those same folks to enter this nation.

One of those arrested was a citizen of Austria.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Yes, but depends how you define “associated.” I’d argue that civilians that are being used as human shields by Hamas shouldn’t really considered “associated” with Hamas.

They happily do it.  You have to understand the mentality on the ground, these people are not coerced to offer up their kids and family as human shields, this is something they do willingly....

It makes them formidable as an opponent. They call it al-Tatarrus and I witnessed mothers happily sacrificing their children.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

One of those arrested was a citizen of Austria.

Yep.  And we have not secured our southern border for years, they have caught some of these sub-humans, but lets hope not too many got in.

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As soon as Hauck enters a thread the stupidity goes through the roof. 

He's really stupid 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

The plotters had just been hired as security.  Nice job libtards. 

[Cdub100 3,995]

13 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

He's really stupid 

He has to tag me first since I own him and get to live rent-free in that head of his. Believe me, there is A LOT of empty space in there.

[TimHauck 3,305]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

He has to tag me first since I own him and get to live rent-free in that head of his. Believe me, there is A LOT of empty space in there.

I just know you hate people tagging you almost as much as you hate Jews

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2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, I'm not like some here who pin threads or link them all over the place like others.  He said MAGA was violent and gave me a link of 54 incidents over a 4 year period and "proof" that he was right.

ETA:  Again, I forget which thread, but he said he believed Smollette's story because MAGA was violent.  He then shared a link where the title said something about 54 cases connecting the acts of violence to Trump's rhetoric.  Note, that was over a 4 year period.

What I wrote is that the MAGA movement encourages political violence. I believe that is true. Just as I believe that a lot of Islam sects encourage  violence against homosexuals. In each case, only a tiny minority of those encouraged actually commit the violence.  

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49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I wrote is that the MAGA movement encourages political violence. I believe that is true. Just as I believe that a lot of Islam sects encourage  violence against homosexuals. In each case, only a tiny minority of those encouraged actually commit the violence.  

GTFOH.   How would political violence lead you to believe that Jussie Smollett was telling the truth?

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I'm a swifty.

Sorry to hear.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

What I wrote is that the MAGA movement encourages political violence. I believe that is true.

Hey Tim.  Your belief system is focking broken you scumbag.