Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Cdub100 said: She's a major part of this administration. If not the head of it now. Yes she can do it. I keep hearing this as if she is the President and could just magically make it happen right now. Trump was the actual President and didn't do it. What makes everyone believe he will this time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I keep hearing this as if she is the President and could just magically make it happen right now. Trump was the actual President and didn't do it. What makes everyone believe he will this time? She has been Border czar for years now. She's done nothing. Trump tried and did some border stuff. Of course, the Dems and RINOs fought him the whole way. Remember the wall they wouldn't fund? Remember when he was trying to stop human trafficking and the Dems called it kids in cages? Try again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: She has been Border czar for years now. She's done nothing. Trump tried and did some border stuff. Of course, the Dems and RINOs fought him the whole way. Remember the wall they wouldn't fund? Remember when he was trying to stop human trafficking and the Dems called it kids in cages? Try again. Didn't republicans vote down a border security bill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Didn't republicans vote down a border security bill? Yes, maybe you should read my post again and actually comprehend it this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: Yes, maybe you should read my post again and actually comprehend it this time. Sorry, missed the RINOs part. So, Trump couldn't do it but Harris could? How is Trump going to this time if he's elected? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Sorry, missed the RINOs part. So, Trump couldn't do it but Harris could? How is Trump going to this time if he's elected? The question is do what? What has she done or even proposed? The Dems want open borders. So anything she says is a lie. Because her solution isn't border control it's an open border. Any idiot who thinks otherwise needs to be deported with the rest of the commies. With Trump he accomplished what he could working against both parties. He's proposed multiple solutions. Harris has proposed what? Nothing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted August 13, 2024 22 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Didn't republicans vote down a border security bill? This is why you suck. Stfu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This is why you suck. Stfu Take your blood pressure meds and calm down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 13, 2024 22 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Didn't republicans vote down a border security bill? Do you think that border was handled better under Trump or Biden? The stats make an obvious case. Educate yourself here: https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-court-backlog-deportations-us-border-1938066 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Reality said: Do you think that border was handled better under Trump or Biden? The stats make an obvious case. Educate yourself here: https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-court-backlog-deportations-us-border-1938066 I don't think it was handled at all under Biden. That wasn't the point though. The point was that no one is getting much done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,200 Posted August 13, 2024 14 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: The question is do what? What has she done or even proposed? The Dems want open borders. So anything she says is a lie. Because her solution isn't border control it's an open border. Any idiot who thinks otherwise needs to be deported with the rest of the commies. With Trump he accomplished what he could working against both parties. He's proposed multiple solutions. Harris has proposed what? Nothing. Was this when Republicans controlled both The House and The Senate? And no, the Democrats do not want open borders, no one has called for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't think it was handled at all under Biden. That wasn't the point though. The point was that no one is getting much done. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, Reality said: Lol Solid contribution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 13, 2024 37 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Sorry, missed the RINOs part. So, Trump couldn't do it but Harris could? How is Trump going to this time if he's elected? 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Solid contribution 12 minutes ago, Reality said: Do you think that border was handled better under Trump or Biden? The stats make an obvious case. Educate yourself here: https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-court-backlog-deportations-us-border-1938066 Trump did it, much better, obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted August 13, 2024 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't think it was handled at all under Biden. That wasn't the point though. The point was that no one is getting much done. Trump tried. Damn near everything he tried to do was held up in court because the Dems didn't want him to make any progress. And that goes for his entire first term, across the board. The dems, along with their leftist judges, dragged everything through court in order to kill any momentum Trump might have otherwise enjoyed in implementing his America first policies. And we all suffered the consequences to this day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted August 13, 2024 13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't think it was handled at all under Biden. That wasn't the point though. The point was that no one is getting much done. This clown is in damn near every political thread and acts like he doesn’t know what’s going on with his childish questions. Derp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: Trump tried. Damn near everything he tried to do was held up in court because the Dems didn't want him to make any progress. And that goes for his entire first term, across the board. The dems, along with their leftist judges, dragged everything through court, in order to kill any momentum Trump might have otherwise enjoyed in implementing his America first policies. And we all suffered the consequences to this day. I understand that. Is that going to change if he gets elected again. Is it all going to get held up again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: This clown is in damn near every political thread and acts like he doesn’t know what’s going on with his childish questions. Derp. You are incapable of actually having a conversation so I don't know why you comment. Everything is hate filled from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,530 Posted August 13, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I understand that. Is that going to change if he gets elected again. Is it all going to get held up again? Mebbe, mebbe not. If the rest of America continues to let it happen then, yeah, they'll do it again. But it won't bode well for our future as the United States of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted August 13, 2024 45 minutes ago, Reality said: Do you think that border was handled better under Trump or Biden? The stats make an obvious case. Educate yourself here: https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-court-backlog-deportations-us-border-1938066 Actually the stats don’t make an obvious case at all. But to realize that you need to look a little deeper. What Biden essentially did is reverse Trump’s policies and went back to what Obama did- in other words, catch and release, no remain in Mexico policy. And the numbers exploded, which would lead you to believe that Trump’s policies were much more effective, right? Wrong. Because if this was true then the numbers under Obama should have been the same as they were under Biden, and far more than they were under Trump. But that’s not the case; actually the numbers under Obama were around the same as they were under Trump, perhaps a little less. Which leads us to three conclusions: 1. Trump’s policies had very little effect on border crossings. 2. Biden’s policies had very little effect on border crossings. 3. The increased border crossings during the last 4 years have causes completely unrelated to border security. We’re arguing over the wrong things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, squistion said: Was this when Republicans controlled both The House and The Senate? And no, the Democrats do not want open borders, no one has called for that. Yes this was during that time. Are you pretending the GOP supported Trump throughout his presidency? They voted against him many times when it came to the border, Obama care etc... Follow up question do you think people don't remember how hard it was to accomplish anything with the uni party attacking at every opportunity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,200 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: Yes this was during that time. Are you pretending the GOP supported Trump throughout his presidency? They voted against him many times when it came to the border, Obama care etc... Follow up question do you think people don't remember how hard it was to accomplish anything with the uni party attacking at every opportunity? Not many voted against him on Obamacare, the vote was 51-49 with McCain casting the tie breaker. What is the uni party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, squistion said: Not many voted against him on Obamacare, the vote was 51-49 with McCain casting the tie breaker. What is the uni party? So you admit I'm right but try and downplay it by saying, well not many voted against him. You know damn well what the Uniparty is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,200 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: So you admit I'm right but try and downplay it by saying, well not many voted against him. You know damn well what the Uniparty is. Dude, you can count. How many Republicans voted against him that day? IIRC the vote was pretty much along party lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: Solid contribution CENTRIST!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, HellToupee said: CENTRIST!!!!!!!!!! RANDOM POSTS!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted August 13, 2024 15 minutes ago, squistion said: Dude, you can count. How many Republicans voted against him that day? IIRC the vote was pretty much along party lines. You seem like a very glib person. Votes like that don't make it that far in Congress unless people know it's going to pass. MaCain screwed his party and the will of the people. But here we are you trying to change the subject. I proved to you Trump did something when he was president and tried to do more. Mrs VP border czar has done nothing. So your argument what did Trump do is null and void. The current administration wants open borders their actions show that. So Mrs VP border czar say she will fix it she is lying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,200 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, Cdub100 said: You seem like a very glib person. Votes like that don't make it that far in Congress unless people know it's going to pass. MaCain screwed his party and the will of the people. But here we are you trying to change the subject. I proved to you Trump did something when he was president and tried to do more. Mrs VP border czar has done nothing. So your argument what did Trump do is null and void. The current administration wants open borders their actions show that. So Mrs VP border czar say she will fix it she is lying. Didn't and don't a majority of Americans support Obamacare? If so then McCain was not screwing the will of the people. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,023 Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, squistion said: Didn't and don't a majority of Americans support Obamacare? If so then McCain was not screwing the will of the people. Who the fock would use that shltty obamacare garbage? They have to be allergic to getting a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted August 13, 2024 Is the National Immigration Correspondent for the NYT touting a far right replacement theory? “The surge in naturalization efficiency isn’t just about clearing backlogs; it’s potentially reshaping the electorate, merely months before a pivotal election ... Every citizenship application could be a vote that decides Senate seats or even the presidency." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/12/us/immigration-us-citizenship-rates.html?smid=whatsapp-nytimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites