Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 13, 2024 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes please cite me the law that he broke. Yes, what? He opposed an officer, or no? I asked if you need a definition of oppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 13, 2024 Just now, Fireballer said: Yes, what? He opposed an officer, or no? How many pages was the covid thread tim kept alive for years? Buckle up because he is all in on this one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 13, 2024 33 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Yes, what? He opposed an officer, or no? I asked if you need a definition of oppose. Well no, I don’t think standing in a public area or asking a question would fit the legal definition of “opposed” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 13, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Well no, I don’t think standing in a public area or asking a question would fit the legal definition of “opposed” Yep “standing”, that’s all. Cop: get in your car and leave (told multiple times) Campbell: Stands there arguing and then hurries past his drivers door towards trunk just before being cuffed. This on top of initially approaching within 10-12 ft? of the officers detaining TH, not immediately following orders to back up, and then approaching again a few mins later. All of this in the video you posted yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,182 Posted September 13, 2024 This is a good idea. If you want to win the World Series, have your local police force arrest the other team's pitching staff when they get off the plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 13, 2024 6 hours ago, Fireballer said: Yep “standing”, that’s all. Cop: get in your car and leave (told multiple times) Campbell: Stands there arguing and then hurries past his drivers door towards trunk just before being cuffed. This on top of initially approaching within 10-12 ft? of the officers detaining TH, not immediately following orders to back up, and then approaching again a few mins later. All of this in the video you posted yourself. Lol he wasn’t arguing, he was calmly talking and asking non-threatening questions, such as ”how far back do you want me to be?” ”I just want to know what happened” ”is it legal for me to stand here?” You forgot to clarify in your summary that literally before the officer is done saying “one more time, I’m giving you an order to get out of here” Campbell was walking away. I guess it wasn’t really “one more time” then huh? Sounds like you think Darlington should have been handcuffed for twice approaching Scheffler then too, got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 14, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Lol he wasn’t arguing, he was calmly talking and asking non-threatening questions, such as ”how far back do you want me to be?” ”I just want to know what happened” ”is it legal for me to stand here?” You forgot to clarify in your summary that literally before the officer is done saying “one more time, I’m giving you an order to get out of here” Campbell was walking away. I guess it wasn’t really “one more time” then huh? Sounds like you think Darlington should have been handcuffed for twice approaching Scheffler then too, got it. You really should go do a ride along with your local police and try to obtain a police procedural statute manual for your state. Your lack of comprehension of the abilities and discretions of law enforcement is sad considering you’re a grown adult. Everything you’re arguing against is literally in the scope of what cops legally do every day. I’m serious, reach out and go ride with them and ask questions. It will be an enlightening experience. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: You really should go do a ride along with your local police and try to obtain a police procedural statute manual for your state. Your lack of comprehension of the abilities and discretions of law enforcement is sad considering you’re a grown adult. Everything you’re arguing against is literally in the scope of what cops legally do every day. I’m serious, reach out and go ride with them and ask questions. It will be an enlightening experience. Good luck. I don’t think I should ask them any questions, might get lawfully handcuffed according to you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 14, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I don’t think I should ask them any questions, might get lawfully handcuffed according to you What an ignorant attempt at a retort and more evidence of your lack of awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 14, 2024 Hey @Fireballer, is this normal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 14, 2024 I’ll be nice and say I’d be OK if Torres doesn’t get fired. But he needs to retire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 14, 2024 YouTube lawyer thinks multiple aspects of the traffic stop were likely unconstitutional, particularly demanding Hill roll down his window further after he had provided his license, and demanding he get out of the car. Also around 5:30 is footage I hadn’t seen before, an officer talking calmly to Jonnu Smith, albeit making incorrect statements. So this proves that they could have easily done similarly with Campbell (in fact looking at the timestamps during this footage is actually when Campbell had just been handcuffed so that must be who Smith is referring to when he says “why is HE getting arrested?” clearly referring to someone that’s not Hill). Heck at one point Smith reaches near his pocket, @Fireballer probably thinks they would have been justified to shoot him at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted September 14, 2024 On 9/12/2024 at 7:15 PM, Gepetto said: Everything the cops did is wrong. He shouldn't even have been pulled over. Guestimate for speeding. What a joke. Hey PO LEECE MANgina use a radar or lidar gun or go away. I like that you are actually a libertarian. So sad to see so many of these supposed conservatives bootlicking for overzealous cops. What happened to personal freedom? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted September 14, 2024 10 hours ago, TimHauck said: Hey @Fireballer, is this normal? Sh1t cop. What a surprise. There are good cops, but this guy almost definitely isn’t one of em 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,924 Posted September 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I like that you are actually a libertarian. So sad to see so many of these supposed conservatives bootlicking for overzealous cops. What happened to personal freedom? Looks like another case of when a-holes collide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted September 14, 2024 10 hours ago, TimHauck said: I’ll be nice and say I’d be OK if Torres doesn’t get fired. But he needs to retire I don’t really want to see the guy fired but he really needs to get his sh1t together Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted September 14, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Looks like another case of when a-holes collide. True. The difference to me is that one of them is entrusted with a badge and a gun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,924 Posted September 14, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: I don’t really want to see the guy fired but he really needs to get his sh1t together Hack is right. Problem is the pensions for cops and others in FLA suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,924 Posted September 14, 2024 Just now, IGotWorms said: True. The difference to me is that one of them is entrusted with a badge and a gun. Ok. But he’s the only one that will he held accountable. Maybe he should. But Hill riding on his high horse demanding things? Yeah, Fock him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted September 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok. But he’s the only one that will he held accountable. Maybe he should. But Hill riding on his high horse demanding things? Yeah, Fock him. I do agree with that. Hill is a fvckstick and shouldn’t be made in to some kind of hero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 14, 2024 15 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: True. The difference to me is that one of them is entrusted with a badge and a gun. And Torres also ”collided” with a non-ahole (Campbell) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 6:38 AM, TimHauck said: Hey @Fireballer, is this normal? Bump for @Fireballer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted September 16, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 5:02 PM, IGotWorms said: I do agree with that. Hill is a fvckstick and shouldn’t be made in to some kind of hero George Floyd asks why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,389 Posted September 16, 2024 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Bump for @Fireballer What were they for? Seems like him being a DEI hire kept him from being fired long ago. Oh well, unintended consequences suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted September 18, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 3:53 PM, TimHauck said: Bump for @Fireballer Bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted September 18, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 5:11 PM, TimHauck said: And Torres also ”collided” with a non-ahole (Campbell) Thank God these fine officers yoked up this Liberal maniac before he could drive into a crowd of normal people. Thank you officers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 Bump for @Fireballer who oddly disappeared after it was revealed this officer was a dirt bag in prior incidents too. Some more details on the prior incidents here: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/details-emerge-on-prior-discipline-of-officer-who-detained-dolphins-player-tyreek-hill/6087223/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Bump for @Fireballer who oddly disappeared after it was revealed this officer was a dirt bag in prior incidents too. Some more details on the prior incidents here: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/details-emerge-on-prior-discipline-of-officer-who-detained-dolphins-player-tyreek-hill/6087223/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand Holy shat, something is wrong with you. I’m schooling you in a thread, and you bump another thread you got schooled in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Holy shat, something is wrong with you. I’m schooling you in a thread, and you bump another thread you got schooled in? Lol if you think that’s what happened in either of these threads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 Just now, TimHauck said: Lol if you think that’s what happened in either of these threads You literally highlighted an article about this cop acting inappropriately in other cases. Your lack of mental acuity will not let you recognize that the Hill situation is not one of them. Your view here literally flies in the face of the legal process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted January 1 TimHack is like an abused wife who keeps going back to her abusing husband because she just can't leave him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,093 Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Holy shat, something is wrong with you. I’m schooling you in a thread, and you bump another thread you got schooled in? These little weirdos occasionally let you get a peak into their miserable existences. It ain't pretty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 10 minutes ago, Fireballer said: You literally highlighted an article about this cop acting inappropriately in other cases. Your lack of mental acuity will not let you recognize that the Hill situation is not one of them. Your view here literally flies in the face of the legal process. Seems quite a few lawyers disagree with you. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Seems quite a few lawyers disagree with you. HTH And Torres’ attorney said he should immediately be placed back on duty. The stupidity of thinking someone is right because they are a lawyer is on brand for you. Lawyers are wrong all the time. Sorry your attempt to “own” me was a fail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, Fireballer said: And Torres’ attorney said he should immediately be placed back on duty. The stupidity of thinking someone is right because they are a lawyer is on brand for you. Lawyers are wrong all the time. Sorry your attempt to “own” me was a fail. But you know for a fact you were right? Looks like the investigation is still ongoing, maybe you should let it play out. Also would think his past documented history means he shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Also would think his past documented history means he shouldn’t get the benefit of the doubt. How objective of you. Now I see how you lack a grasp of the legal process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 Just now, Fireballer said: How objective of you. Now I see how you lack a grasp of the legal process. Past history of similar incidents isn’t a factor in legal matters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Past history of similar incidents isn’t a factor in legal matters? Sure, OK. How exactly do you think Torres’ previous history should factor into that day with Hill back in Sept? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,606 Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Sure, OK. How exactly do you think Torres’ previous history should factor into that day with Hill back in Sept? Well not automatically assuming the person getting arrested was the one in the wrong, like you did in this thread, even bringing up his past history in doing so and being quick to believe fake news. Just skimmed back over some of this thread. The majority opinion from posters here except you and a couple others seemed to be that the officers did “go overboard” in regards to Hill. I also forgot about the cop citing a nonexistent law, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well not automatically assuming the person getting arrested was the one in the wrong, like you did in this thread, even bringing up his past history in doing so and being quick to believe fake news. Just skimmed back over some of this thread. The majority opinion from posters here except you and a couple others seemed to be that the officers did “go overboard” in regards to Hill. I also forgot about the cop citing a nonexistent law, lol. Majority opinion of geeks think it’s “overboard”. Like I said, you obviously lack the ability to process objectivity. NOTHING about the officers past history should be considered until discipline phase. I didn’t “assume” anything. I used my knowledge of constitutional law, and research of Florida law to determine that it was “probable” that the people approaching the scene were breaking Florida statutes. “Overboard” …LMAO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites