HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 23 20 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Cartels don’t send their drugs across the border Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 23 This is the type of guy @The Real timschochet gives aid & comfort with his open border love. Hope this guy becomes the face of illegal immigratio. Btw @squistion aka squissy this is a BAD HOMBRE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, RLLD said: We have been unBidened......by what has been..... End of story. Everyone needs to move on. The past four to five years is nothing to dwell on. It was a disaster. Time to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Sigh. I corrected myself later on by explaining that they send MOST of their drugs through ports. @Strike is always looking to trap me with stuff like this and it gets boring, which is why I didn’t respond to that part of his post. Should I have written it correctly the first time? Yes. My bad, mea culpa. Happy now? What a waste of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 24 Very nice #BREAKING: President Trump has now given the ATF, DEA, and U.S. Marshals Service the ability to arrest illegals, per WSJ This instantly added almost TEN THOUSAND new federal agents to the deportation squad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,433 Posted January 24 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Sigh. I corrected myself later on by explaining that they send MOST of their drugs through ports. @Strike is always looking to trap me with stuff like this and it gets boring, which is why I didn’t respond to that part of his post. Should I have written it correctly the first time? Yes. My bad, mea culpa. Happy now? What a waste of time. Not at all. I asked you to support your assertion that MOST drugs come through ports. Thus far you have not provided any. Given your propensity to make things up and lie that makes your assertion worthless. So, put up or shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Strike said: Not at all. I asked you to support your assertion that MOST drugs come through ports. Thus far you have not provided any. Given your propensity to make things up and lie that makes your assertion worthless. So, put up or shut up. Your bullsh!t is so tiring. Especially now since so many innocent people are at risk due to this President’s heinous and evil policies which you approve of. But anyhow here you go: https://immigrationforum.org/article/illicit-fentanyl-and-drug-smuggling-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-an-overview/ You have to scroll down to paragraph 8 which reads: The data indicates most smuggling of illicit drug substances into the U.S. happens at ports of entry, not between Satisfied? Now shut the fock up. Everything you believe about this issue is wrong. You’ve bought into Trump’s lies and fearmongering. You’re a dupe and an idiot. Unfortunately right now there are millions like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted January 24 21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Your bullsh!t is so tiring. Especially now since so many innocent people are at risk due to this President’s heinous and evil policies which you approve of. Yeah. Biden's open borders policy was definitely evil. Agreed. Thank God Trump won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 24 8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Your bullsh!t is so tiring. Especially now since so many innocent people are at risk due to this President’s heinous and evil policies which you approve of. Deaths like poor innocent Laken Riley’s were a direct result of the evil policies you applauded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: Deaths like poor innocent Laken Riley’s were a direct result of the evil policies you applauded You’ve made this argument before. I thoroughly reject it. Now what?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’ve made this argument before. I thoroughly reject it. Now what?? If I might, I think that might not be the move here. Rejecting inconvenient truths is not the path. Her death was absolutely a result of failed border policies coupled with failed law enforcement strategies. The win here is admitting and then rolling up the sleeves to find a better way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,912 Posted January 24 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: this President’s heinous and evil policies which you approve of. Laken Riley and her Family says, excuse me?? What's wrong with you? Fuk Illegal Immigrants, if you want to be here do it the right way. You don't have the birth right to be American and I don't owe them anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted January 24 I find it humorous that the Biden/Democrat position to allow people to come without vetting how has criminals disbursed with non criminals among the immigrant community. So now ICE can use the presence of the criminals to also remove the non criminals. I have to think liberals for their abundant stupidity when it comes to policy for empowering the new administration and ICE to perform at much higher levels. Well done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted January 24 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’ve made this argument before. I thoroughly reject it. Now what?? You shut the F up? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 44 minutes ago, RLLD said: If I might, I think that might not be the move here. Rejecting inconvenient truths is not the path. Her death was absolutely a result of failed border policies coupled with failed law enforcement strategies. The win here is admitting and then rolling up the sleeves to find a better way. No I reject your argument. If we had more organized border policies, which I would prefer, it still would not prevent violent criminals from coming here. Some will still get through. I’m not even convinced less would get through. But I detest Trump’s “solutions” to this issue, because I think they harm innocent people. And I’m not willing to do that based on the possibility that a bad dude MIGHT have been prevented from killing Laken Riley. And guys like @HellToupee think that because of my rejection of their draconian ideas I am therefore personally responsible for Laken Riley’s death. That’s bullsh!t, it’s not an “inconvenient truth. It’s crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,929 Posted January 24 32 minutes ago, RLLD said: I find it humorous that the Biden/Democrat position to allow people to come without vetting how has criminals disbursed with non criminals among the immigrant community. So now ICE can use the presence of the criminals to also remove the non criminals. I have to think liberals for their abundant stupidity when it comes to policy for empowering the new administration and ICE to perform at much higher levels. Well done. Some years back, illegals invading France got so bad and violent that even FRANCE closed their borders tight. Liberal Americans didn't get the hint. Focking Europe is waking up before the US had even opened up their eyes. Embarrassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 35 minutes ago, RLLD said: I find it humorous that the Biden/Democrat position to allow people to come without vetting how has criminals disbursed with non criminals among the immigrant community. So now ICE can use the presence of the criminals to also remove the non criminals. I have to think liberals for their abundant stupidity when it comes to policy for empowering the new administration and ICE to perform at much higher levels. Well done. It’s not humorous. It’s awful. And some of us will fight against it until the policies are once again changed for the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 24 https://x.com/ScMesab/status/1882825902905528799 #Breaking Trump Administration Grants ICE Authority to Revoke Parole Status for 1.5 Million Aliens The Trump administration has authorized Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to terminate the parole status of approximately 1.5 million individuals, potentially leading to their deportation. This policy shift targets those who have overstayed their authorized stay in the U.S. under parole status. Critics argue that the move could disrupt the lives of many who have been legally residing in the country for years, while supporters see it as a necessary measure to enforce immigration laws and maintain the integrity of the system. This decision reflects the administration's ongoing focus on stricter immigration enforcement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,929 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: No I reject your argument. No one cares. You are as wrong as you are with all your other open border desires. You lost. Too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: No one cares. You are as wrong as you are with all your other open border desires. You lost. Too bad. It is too bad. Not for me personally but for the country. Hopefully we will find our way again. It may take a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,036 Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not humorous. It’s awful. And some of us will fight against it until the policies are once again changed for the better. You're on the wrong side of history once again, Tim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You're on the wrong side of history once again, Tim. Could be. But this is a moral issue for me. It’s a core conviction. So I’m stuck with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,274 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: You’ve made this argument before. I thoroughly reject it. Now what?? Her killer was arrested for a violent crime, to a child no less, and wasn’t turned over to ICE for deportation , and you’re claiming her death wasn’t preventable? Please tell us why. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,929 Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It is too bad. Not for me personally but for the country. Hopefully we will find our way again. It may take a while. Too bad for you. It's good for me and it's good for people who have daughters they don't want raped and killed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,036 Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Could be. But this is a moral issue for me. It’s a core conviction. So I’m stuck with it. Uhm, yeah. You're morally wrong on this. Your conviction is misplaced, which is why you're on the wrong side of history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Her killer was arrested for a violent crime, to a child no less, and wasn’t turned over to ICE for deportation , and you’re claiming her death wasn’t preventable? Please tell us why. Thanks. I never said her murder wasn’t preventable. I have no idea if it was or it wasn’t. I think that what Trump wants to do is morally wrong and bad for the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,274 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I never said her murder wasn’t preventable. I have no idea if it was or it wasn’t. I think that what Trump wants to do is morally wrong and bad for the country. You have no idea ? If he had been deported, which is what the situation calledfor, he would have been deported. Do you have an idea now? Or do you think he should not have been deported? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You have no idea ? If he had been deported, which is what the situation came for, he would have been deported. Do you have an idea now? No. He might still have slipped through the cracks. Another bad guy might have slipped through the cracks. I don’t believe the cracks can ever be adequately closed to stop all of this sort of crime. And at least for me the price is too high. I’m not willing to tear apart the lives of innocent people. You know what societies have very few rapes and murders, HT? Police states. Soviet Russia. Nazi Germany. The streets were safe from violent crime. I’m not willing to pay that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,274 Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No. He might still have slipped through the cracks. Another bad guy might have slipped through the cracks. I don’t believe the cracks can ever be adequately closed to stop all of this sort of crime. And at least for me the price is too high. I’m not willing to tear apart the lives of innocent people. You know what societies have very few rapes and murders, HT? Police states. Soviet Russia. Nazi Germany. The streets were safe from violent crime. I’m not willing to pay that price. So don’t bother deporting violent criminals here illegally? That’s your conclusion? There was no crack to fall through. He was in custody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So don’t bother deporting violent criminals here illegally? That’s your conclusion? All violent criminals without documents should serve appropriate prison terms and then be deported. I’ve never argued for anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,274 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: All violent criminals without documents should serve appropriate prison terms and then be deported. I’ve never argued for anything else. So you’re still claiming her death wasn’t preventable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: And guys like @HellToupee think that because of my rejection of their draconian ideas I am therefore personally responsible for Laken Riley’s death. That’s bullsh!t, it’s not an “inconvenient truth. It’s crap. This stench is on you and others . Own it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,715 Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: All violent criminals without documents should serve appropriate prison terms and then be deported. I’ve never argued for anything else. Hard to deport when these violent criminals when ICE is obstructed from apprehending them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,274 Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Hard to deport when these violent criminals when ICE is obstructed from apprehending them. And Tim supports that. He’s all over the place. But he isn’t in a good one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,036 Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This stench is on you and others . Own it. Yep. 100%. Liberals have blood on their hands. It's not even debatable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,651 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yep. 100%. Liberals have blood on their hands. It's not even debatable. It’s not only debatable it’s wrong. But I’ve said my piece. I’ve been defeated too. As you guys say there’s a new sheriff in town. Let’s see how he does. I can complain (and I will) but I can’t stop what’s happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: No I reject your argument. If we had more organized border policies, which I would prefer, it still would not prevent violent criminals from coming here. Some will still get through. I’m not even convinced less would get through. But I detest Trump’s “solutions” to this issue, because I think they harm innocent people. And I’m not willing to do that based on the possibility that a bad dude MIGHT have been prevented from killing Laken Riley. And guys like @HellToupee think that because of my rejection of their draconian ideas I am therefore personally responsible for Laken Riley’s death. That’s bullsh!t, it’s not an “inconvenient truth. It’s crap. Very well, on this point we will then have to agree to disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,200 Posted January 24 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s not humorous. It’s awful. And some of us will fight against it until the policies are once again changed for the better. It is unfortunate for those her illegally who are non-violent of course. But imagine if instead of fighting ICE and Trump.....these localities instead handed over the criminals.....then there would be no ancillary deportations. This is simple common sense, but the insistence on no allowance for any deportations....the all or nothing mentality.....will result in unintended consequences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,129 Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, RLLD said: It is unfortunate for those her illegally who are non-violent of course. But imagine if instead of fighting ICE and Trump.....these localities instead handed over the criminals.....then there would be no ancillary deportations. This is simple common sense, but the insistence on no allowance for any deportations....the all or nothing mentality.....will result in unintended consequences. No ancillary deportations? Oh, please. The meme is These Invaders Are Taking Our Jobs! If the sanctuary cities handed over just the "criminals" that wouldn't stop the call for mass deporations that Trump and his followers want (irrespective of the fact that none of the MAGA folks would ever take the job of a migrant worker spending all day picking crops in a field in the hot sun). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, squistion said: No ancillary deportations? Oh, please. The meme is These Invaders Are Taking Our Jobs! If the sanctuary cities handed over just the "criminals" that wouldn't stop the call for mass deporations that Trump and his followers want (irrespective of the fact that none of the MAGA folks would ever take the job of a migrant worker spending all day picking crops in a field in the hot sun). If they are not citizens of the US, or don't have legit visas, bye-bye. You are a criminal and...you gone. Bon voyage bltches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites