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Just now, RLLD said:

I find his policies to my satisfaction, more importantly I find the outcomes from his policies to be deeply satisfying

Fair enough. I appreciate your back and forth.  We just see him differently.  All good!

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do not share your assessment.  He is not mean.  I know mean.....I have lived with it all my life, he is not....mean.....😄

I would say he fits the definition of being mean.  It's not that strong of a word to describe someone.  I'm guessing you're thinking more evil than mean.

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

For the second time now...yes. I've only spoken to January 6th. It is my belief that you can't just say "no one suggested to them anything..." because that would indicate Trump is not aware of the power of his words whether implicitly or explicitly stated. I think he is aware and should have known how some people there would take what he was saying. 

In order to stay philosophically honest I actually cannot blame Trump for the actions of those people, since in other instances with other politicians and people I have agreed to that stance in principle.  So to reverse that course here and now means I would be philosophically dishonest.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I would say he fits the definition of being mean.  It's not that strong of a word to describe someone.  I'm guessing you're thinking more evil than mean.

I mean, cheating on every wife he ever had and hanging out with Epstein and stealing from charity and and and and and does make make him a "nice guy".

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2 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Fair enough. I appreciate your back and forth.  We just see him differently.  All good!

:cheers:

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I would say he fits the definition of being mean.  It's not that strong of a word to describe someone.  I'm guessing you're thinking more evil than mean.

If you were to instead use the word "crude" or maybe even "crass" then I would get it.  But this pretending that he is mean, well, I mean.....nah....I cannot get behind that....again, mean people are something completely different.

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Just now, RLLD said:

If you were to instead use the word "crude" or maybe even "crass" then I would get it.  But this pretending that he is mean, well, I mean.....nah....I cannot get behind that....again, mean people are something completely different.

Mean implies intent. I don't think he tries to be mean.   I think he is crude, crass and also just a narcissist who has gotten away with so much over his silver spoon life he just blurts out anything and knows he can get away with it.  Zero self awareness however. Which is not a good quality.  Some of his quips come across as mean. But he is too in the moment to realize it and moves on to the next ....squirrel!

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20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

In order to stay philosophically honest I actually cannot blame Trump for the actions of those people, since in other instances with other politicians and people I have agreed to that stance in principle.  So to reverse that course here and now means I would be philosophically dishonest.

So it isn't the fault of politicians for attempts on Trump then correct?

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15 hours ago, OldMaid said:

:cheers:  If you have HBO I would still encourage you to watch Stopping the Steal. They talk to some of the officials that were on the receiving end of the pressure campaign. 

Honestly, if they had run a moderate republican they would have won in a landslide. 

Still thinks Biden got 81 million legit votes.  lol. 

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15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So it isn't the fault of politicians for attempts on Trump then correct?

That is what I agreed to in a separate thread, so yeah....

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still thinks Biden got 81 million legit votes. lol. 

Still think Trump isn't a Pedo who cheated on his wife with a PStar? lol.

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

Still think Trump isn't a Pedo who cheated on his wife with a PStar? lol.

I don’t think hes a pedo. 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t think hes a pedo. 

He achieved Platinum Status on Epstein Air!

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t think hes a pedo. 

If Epstein was alive, he may say otherwise.

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1 hour ago, purdygood said:
1 hour ago, RLLD said:

If you were to instead use the word "crude" or maybe even "crass" then I would get it.  But this pretending that he is mean, well, I mean.....nah....I cannot get behind that....again, mean people are something completely different.

Mean implies intent. I don't think he tries to be mean.   I think he is crude, crass and also just a narcissist who has gotten away with so much over his silver spoon life he just blurts out anything and knows he can get away with it.  Zero self awareness however. Which is not a good quality.  Some of his quips come across as mean. But he is too in the moment to realize it and moves on to the next ....squirrel!

Eh, deprived his brother of financial medical aid on his hospital death bed, screwed his brother's family out of their inheritance, buried his ex-wife on his golf course by herself for a tax break, created fake charity, told his nephew he should just let his special needs nephew die (really be euthanized), not only calls people crude names like a 3rd grader out to millions of followers but also attacks anyone who merely questions him even those not trying to harm him (heck might even be trying to help him), cheated on all three wives... a lifetime of this stuff, when do we get to "ok yeah he's mean".

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26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t think hes a pedo. 

Right, just pals with two pedos (Brunel & Epstein). Epstein claimed he introduced Trump to (then soft-core-lesbian-pron model) Melania.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh, deprived his brother of financial medical aid on his hospital death bed, screwed his brother's family out of their inheritance, buried his ex-wife on his golf course by herself for a tax break, created fake charity, told his nephew he should just let his special needs nephew die (really be euthanized), not only calls people crude names like a 3rd grader out to millions of followers but also attacks anyone who merely questions him even those not trying to harm him (heck might even be trying to help him), cheated on all three wives... a lifetime of this stuff, when do we get to "ok yeah he's mean".

He definitely does mean things.  He is just too stupid to be a "evil genius".  He's just a bad person and doesn't realize it.

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1 hour ago, purdygood said:

Perhaps, but also maybe Trump's own words led to his assassination attempts, he doesn't exactly speak in pleasantries when speaking about his non supporters.

You seem like the kind of guy that tells a woman she shouldn't have worn that skirt after getting raped

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Just now, purdygood said:

He definitely does mean things.  He is just too stupid to be a "evil genius".  He's just a bad person and doesn't realize it.

Well, most Democrats are pretty destructive. That's why you should vote Trump 2024. :thumbsup:

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1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

You seem like the kind of guy that tells a woman she shouldn't have worn that skirt after getting raped

Spot on. 

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Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

You seem like the kind of guy that tells a woman she shouldn't have worn that skirt after getting raped

You have me wrong then.   You seem like the kind of guy who defends a horrible presidential candidate.  AKA a cultist.

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Just now, jbycho said:

Well, most Democrats are pretty destructive. That's why you should vote Trump 2024. :thumbsup:

No thanks.

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5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Right, just pals with two pedos (Brunel & Epstein). Epstein claimed he introduced Trump to (then soft-core-lesbian-pron model) Melania.

There is a whole thread here about that if you'd like to educate yourself.

Trump was mentioned just one single time in all the documents released to date, by the interviewer. Trump shows up on the flight logs one single time from MIA to EWR with other family members on board.

Can't say the same about Clinton and Price Andrew.  And a bunch of others that are documented on the island, Hong Kong, Russia, Singapore, Thailand.  

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1 minute ago, Horseman said:

There is a whole thread here about that if you'd like to educate yourself.

Trump was mentioned just one single time in all the documents released to date, by the interviewer. Trump shows up on the flight logs one single time from MIA to EWR with other family members on board.

Can't say the same about Clinton and Price Andrew.  And a bunch of others that are documented on the island, Hong Kong, Russia, Singapore, Thailand.  

I honestly don't think that anyone in the world can make a democrat see the truth in this country. I believe there will be a day that science finds a reason for their disability. 

 Could be a physical brain disease or a mental malfunction caused by some odd trauma suffered at birth or in early childhood. 

We'll see. 

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1 minute ago, Horseman said:

There is a whole thread here about that if you'd like to educate yourself.

Trump was mentioned just one single time in all the documents released to date, by the interviewer. Trump shows up on the flight logs one single time from MIA to EWR with other family members on board.

Can't say the same about Clinton and Price Andrew.  And a bunch of others that are documented on the island, Hong Kong, Russia, Singapore, Thailand.  

Yet, there are multiple multiple photos of Trump with Epstein in NY and other places.  You think the shenanigans only happened on the Island?  Lock up Clinton and Andrew too.  All of them.

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

Yet, there are multiple multiple photos of Trump with Epstein in NY and other places.  You think the shenanigans only happened on the Island?  Lock up Clinton and Andrew too.  All of them.

There have been a whole bunch of mass murderers, and thieves, and crooks in general, throughout history who have associated with very good innocent people. 

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Just now, jbycho said:

There have been a whole bunch of mass murderers, and thieves, and crooks in general, throughout history who have associated with very good innocent people. 

You think... hahahaha you think... Donald Trump, is a very good innocent person?  ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

Yet, there are multiple multiple photos of Trump with Epstein in NY and other places.  You think the shenanigans only happened on the Island?  Lock up Clinton and Andrew too.  All of them.

I've been at parties with all types. Even talked to some of the weirdos.  You should get out more.  

That doesn't mean anything, I mean if they were pedo friends he most certainly would have shown up on the flight logs to the island at a minimum.

Oh, and then there is this:

 

 

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31 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh, deprived his brother of financial medical aid on his hospital death bed, screwed his brother's family out of their inheritance, buried his ex-wife on his golf course by herself for a tax break, created fake charity, told his nephew he should just let his special needs nephew die (really be euthanized), not only calls people crude names like a 3rd grader out to millions of followers but also attacks anyone who merely questions him even those not trying to harm him (heck might even be trying to help him), cheated on all three wives... a lifetime of this stuff, when do we get to "ok yeah he's mean".

I think to seal the deal we need a photo of him kicking a puppy.  That is, of course, what A.I. is for.

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Just now, Horseman said:

I've been at parties with all types. Even talked to some of the weirdos.  You should get out more.  

That doesn't mean anything, I mean if they were pedo friends he most certainly would have shown up on the flight logs to the island at a minimum.

Oh, and then there is this:

 

 

Elon Musk is a weirdo.  I don't trust him AT ALL.  I grew up in Fremont CA (where Tesla is) and a lot of people I went to High School with worked in the plant.  They ALL hated Musk.  In fact one of my friends was a Executive Assistant, got raped in the plant by one of Elon's buddies. He wrote her a check for $400K and made her sign a NDA.  He is scum.

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

You think... hahahaha you think... Donald Trump, is a very good innocent person?  ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha

I'm saying your argument is extremely flawed. 

And yes, Trump is a meanie tweeter while he was a great president. 

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Just now, jbycho said:

I'm saying your argument is extremely flawed. 

And yes, Trump is a meanie tweeter while he was a great president. 

Meanie tweeter yes. Great President No.

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9 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Elon Musk is a weirdo.  I don't trust him AT ALL.  I grew up in Fremont CA (where Tesla is) and a lot of people I went to High School with worked in the plant.  They ALL hated Musk.  In fact one of my friends was a Executive Assistant, got raped in the plant by one of Elon's buddies. He wrote her a check for $400K and made her sign a NDA.  He is scum.

Awesome.  You have your feelings and some photos from black tie events in NYC.  Congrats.  

I have read every single bit of evidence released from the Epstein cases and there is nothing, zero, on Trump. And Musk is in a position that he'd know, you're not. It's not like he's calling out some Joe Schmoes. 

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33 minutes ago, purdygood said:

You have me wrong then.   You seem like the kind of guy who defends a horrible presidential candidate.  AKA a cultist.

I have not defended Harris once

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5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Awesome.  You have your feelings and some photos from black tie events in NYC.  Congrats.  

I have read every single bit of evidence released from the Epstein cases and there is nothing, zero, on Trump. And Musk is in a position that he'd know, you're not. It's not like he's calling out some Joe Schmoes. 

Fair enough. Even if he wasn't hanging out with Epstein "like that" I have enough evidence from his own words (grab em by the, Howard Stern interviews) and actions when he was President the first time to not like him as a human being. 

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Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

I have not defended Harris once

Hard to defend a cult leader who doesn't have a cult. Got me there. 

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5 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Fair enough. Even if he wasn't hanging out with Epstein "like that" I have enough evidence from his own words (grab em by the, Howard Stern interviews) and actions when he was President the first time to not like him as a human being. 

You just got done accusing someone for pedophilia without a shred of evidence.  What's that make you?

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7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You just got done accusing someone for pedophilia without a shred of evidence.  What's that make you?

I'm just asking questions, many people are saying, many people. I do my own research. You wouldn't believe what the documents I've seen say. I would tell you. But I can't, but believe me, they are shocking. Shocking.

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