RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So another non-answer. It doesn't matter what mistakes I think he has made much like it doesn't matter which mistakes you think Kamala has made. That is just you or I putting our thoughts on the candidate's positions. Take out what you personally think her mistakes are. You are saying she never admits mistakes. Now take out personally what I might think Trump's mistakes are....when does he admit to making mistakes? Right, so you cannot apparently point to a mistake.....that you insist he should apologize for or acknowledge.....but insist he should do so..... can you understand how that seems like an odd position to hold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, MDC said: You first. Still nothing from the liar over in the corner..... no value.....at least lob one of your lies for us.....that would perhaps demonstrate effort.....I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 253 Posted October 17, 2024 If admitting mistakes is a requirement, I guess I am skipping voting again this year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,118 Posted October 17, 2024 11 minutes ago, RLLD said: Right, so you cannot apparently point to a mistake.....that you insist he should apologize for or acknowledge.....but insist he should do so..... can you understand how that seems like an odd position to hold? you do understand that you are accountable to your positions? Other people are not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,166 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: Still nothing from the liar over in the corner..... no value.....at least lob one of your lies for us.....that would perhaps demonstrate effort.....I guess Speaking of lies … Remember when you said if the Biden investigation didn’t find definitive proof of his wrongdoing you’d admit that you were wrong? Only to later walk that back and claim you’d say “I was wrong” but continue to believe he’s guilty? Also, remember how you used to say BLM protestors should die in a fire because police brutality against black people isn’t a serious problem … only to later express phony concern trans people might abuse our daughters? That sort of thing is why I don’t waste any effort on you. HTH but I know it won’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 14 minutes ago, RLLD said: Right, so you cannot apparently point to a mistake.....that you insist he should apologize for or acknowledge.....but insist he should do so..... can you understand how that seems like an odd position to hold? Apparently you are allergic to answering a simple question. Again- forget what mistakes you, or I, perceive that a candidate has made. If admitting to a mistake (whatever it may be) is a pertinent skill you are saying Kamala has not admitted to any which means she lacks an important quality to being President. What mistakes has Trump admitted to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted October 17, 2024 She kicked Brett Baier’s ass. He was ridiculous and I’ve lost any respect I once had for him. That said, doubt it matters much 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Apparently you are allergic to answering a simple question. Again- forget what mistakes you, or I, perceive that a candidate has made. If admitting to a mistake (whatever it may be) is a pertinent skill you are saying Kamala has not admitted to any which means she lacks an important quality to being President. What mistakes has Trump admitted to? You accuse me of what you are doing. You insist I highlight some mistake that Trump should admit to, and yet refuse to point to any mistake.....as I have done for Harris OK, so then since you refuse to produce this elusive mistake, I gave you one I felt you could or should use....abortion, and yet you assiduously avoid naming this mysterious mistake that Trump must admit to....but insist I should find it..... I mean, your attempt is incomplete....at least give us one..... and then I can google it to see if he ever admitted to it or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Speaking of lies … Remember when you said if the Biden investigation didn’t find definitive proof of his wrongdoing you’d admit that you were wrong? Only to later walk that back and claim you’d say “I was wrong” but continue to believe he’s guilty? Also, remember how you used to say BLM protestors should die in a fire because police brutality against black people isn’t a serious problem … only to later express phony concern trans people might abuse our daughters? That sort of thing is why I don’t waste any effort on you. HTH but I know it won’t. I am ready to admit it still, just let me know when that arises.... As to your second misrepresentation ( lie) , still a little butthurt that I walked you into that one eh? I honestly did not know you were scarred by that one, jeeez, all I did was use it to highlight your hypocrisy. But you do you....we know you have nothing, and easily fall into simplistic traps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: You accuse me of what you are doing. You insist I highlight some mistake that Trump should admit to, and yet refuse to point to any mistake.....as I have done for Harris OK, so then since you refuse to produce this elusive mistake, I gave you one I felt you could or should use....abortion, and yet you assiduously avoid naming this mysterious mistake that Trump must admit to....but insist I should find it..... I mean, your attempt is incomplete....at least give us one..... and then I can google it to see if he ever admitted to it or not Once again- forget specific mistakes. That is you, or I, accusing the candidate of making mistake based our own perception of events rather than their own perception. Essentially- they may not feel like they made a mistake as misguided as that may be. So you can't hide behind that now. You said an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes (AGAIN- WHATEVER THAT PERCEIVED MISTAKE MAY BE). By your scoring Kamala is unqualified because she does not admit mistakes (AGAIN- WHATEVER THAT PERCEIVED MISTAKE MAY BE) So- what mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,607 Posted October 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: She kicked Brett Baier’s ass. He was ridiculous and I’ve lost any respect I once had for him. That said, doubt it matters much the gaslighting isn’t working Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Once again- forget specific mistakes. That is you, or I, accusing the candidate of making mistake based our own perception of events rather than their own perception. Essentially- they may not feel like they made a mistake as misguided as that may be. So you can't hide behind that now. You said an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes (AGAIN- WHATEVER THAT PERCEIVED MISTAKE MAY BE). By your scoring Kamala is unqualified because she does not admit mistakes (AGAIN- WHATEVER THAT PERCEIVED MISTAKE MAY BE) So- what mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? The specifics matter here. My position remains, that she is refusing to admit her mistakes and that means she would repeat them. What mistakes is Trump no admitting to that he will repeat. If I am to choose between the two, this is important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: The specifics matter here. My position remains, that she is refusing to admit her mistakes and that means she would repeat them. What mistakes is Trump no admitting to that he will repeat. If I am to choose between the two, this is important. It does not matter. I'm not speaking to specific mistakes a candidate made or makes and never have been. You asserted that an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes and because Kamala does not she does not meet the qualities to be President. What mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? Are you asserting that his presidency and current candidacy was/have been perfect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,166 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am ready to admit it still, just let me know when that arises.... As to your second misrepresentation ( lie) , still a little butthurt that I walked you into that one eh? I honestly did not know you were scarred by that one, jeeez, all I did was use it to highlight your hypocrisy. But you do you....we know you have nothing, and easily fall into simplistic traps You already admitted that you’ll maintain Biden’s guilt no matter what the investigation finds. And the only thing I ever said about BLM is that they have a right to peacefully protest even if they’re wrong. You’re the one who said they should die in a fire for complaining about something that isn’t a real issue … before pretending to be worried about trannies victimizing girls. But you already knew all this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,166 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: It does not matter. I'm not speaking to specific mistakes a candidate made or makes and never have been. You asserted that an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes and because Kamala does not she does not meet the qualities to be President. What mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? Are you asserting that his presidency and current candidacy was/have been perfect? Give up. Ray is either trolling or he’s the most self deluded motherfocker on earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,247 Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, squistion said: derp derp derp retard speaks up again “Our Country Has Been Poisoned” - Donald Trump On Putin, Obama, Tariffs & Iran | PBD Podcast | 489 (youtube.com) Bloomberg’s Trump Interview: Inside His Economic Vision for a Second Term | Big Take (youtube.com) FULL INTERVIEW: President Trump's Interview with Dave Ramsey (youtube.com) Donald Trump responde preguntas de latinos en un foro abierto de TelevisaUnivision y NMás (youtube.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,607 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So- what mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? He’s said he made a big mistake trusting who he had on his transition team just because they were R. He’s actually admitted plenty of mistakes in interviews and in print. The answers are out there . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,633 Posted October 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, RLLD said: What mistakes is Trump no admitting to that he will repeat. Admitting he lost the 2020 election Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: He’s said he made a big mistake trusting who he had on his transition team just because they were R. He’s actually admitted plenty of mistakes in interviews and in print. The answers are out there . I will gladly look at links if you share them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, MDC said: You already admitted that you’ll maintain Biden’s guilt no matter what the investigation finds. And the only thing I ever said about BLM is that they have a right to peacefully protest even if they’re wrong. You’re the one who said they should die in a fire for complaining about something that isn’t a real issue … before pretending to be worried about trannies victimizing girls. But you already knew all this. Well yeah, of course. I am happy to echo what ever the outcome of the investigation arrives at, while still maintaining my own perspective. Of course, its not like I simply believe whatever the government says......oh wait, you are a liberal, nevermind, this wont make sense to you..... I have no problem with BLM protestors dieing a fire of course...especially if they started that fire, I mean that is simple common sense. Not sure why you would even question that Now, if you are suggesting that we should not worry about statistically small issues, I think you and I already have common ground there, unless you are going to try to lie you way out of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,607 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: derp derp derp retard speaks up again “Our Country Has Been Poisoned” - Donald Trump On Putin, Obama, Tariffs & Iran | PBD Podcast | 489 (youtube.com) Bloomberg’s Trump Interview: Inside His Economic Vision for a Second Term | Big Take (youtube.com) FULL INTERVIEW: President Trump's Interview with Dave Ramsey (youtube.com) Donald Trump responde preguntas de latinos en un foro abierto de TelevisaUnivision y NMás (youtube.com) It’s amazing how the create a narrative whether it’s true or not. Then the squissys of the world parrot the story like it’s settled science.. Sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It does not matter. I'm not speaking to specific mistakes a candidate made or makes and never have been. You asserted that an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes and because Kamala does not she does not meet the qualities to be President. What mistakes has Donald Trump admitted to? Are you asserting that his presidency and current candidacy was/have been perfect? But "I" am speaking to the specifics of a candidate. So if you want to talk about it, that is my position. I gave you a mistake with regard to Trump, so.....what mistakes would YOU point to as it pertains to him which he has not admitted to? If you cant produce anythig, then you seem to be suggesting he did not make any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: But "I" am speaking to the specifics of a candidate. So if you want to talk about it, that is my position. I gave you a mistake with regard to Trump, so.....what mistakes would YOU point to as it pertains to him which he has not admitted to? If you cant produce anythig, then you seem to be suggesting he did not make any. So again you have no answer to a very simple question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,607 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I will gladly look at links if you share them. Oh you don’t have google where you live? Go find it yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, Sean Mooney said: So again you have no answer to a very simple question. Apparently, you do not. You are asking me to produce a list of mistakes, but refuse to produce them yourself....so....I gave you one....and still, you refuse to produce anthying....so then....you are telling me Trump made no mistakes? See, I dont think that is true....so why not show me his mistakes since I have highlighted those of Harris, and,,,,,focking gave you one for Trump you could use...I mean. c'mon......you must have somethin you would point to.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Oh you don’t have google where you live? Go find it yourself So nothing from you as well I see 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Apparently, you do not. You are asking me to produce a list of mistakes, but refuse to produce them yourself....so....I gave you one....and still, you refuse to produce anthying....so then....you are telling me Trump made no mistakes? See, I dont think that is true....so why not show me his mistakes since I have highlighted those of Harris, and,,,,,focking gave you one for Trump you could use...I mean. c'mon......you must have somethin you would point to.... I did not ask you to produce a list of mistakes. I said- forget the specifics of mistakes because it's not about what you or I perceive as mistakes of a candidate. You stated an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes. You said Kamala does not admit mistakes. I'm asking when Donald Trump has admitted mistakes. What don't you understand here? What language do you need me to type in so it makes sense to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 338 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: He’s said he made a big mistake trusting who he had on his transition team just because they were R. He’s actually admitted plenty of mistakes in interviews and in print. The answers are out there . He admitted F'ing Stormy was a mistake, when he tried to pay her off to keep silent too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,166 Posted October 17, 2024 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Well yeah, of course. I am happy to echo what ever the outcome of the investigation arrives at, while still maintaining my own perspective. Of course, its not like I simply believe whatever the government says......oh wait, you are a liberal, nevermind, this wont make sense to you..... I have no problem with BLM protestors dieing a fire of course...especially if they started that fire, I mean that is simple common sense. Not sure why you would even question that Now, if you are suggesting that we should not worry about statistically small issues, I think you and I already have common ground there, unless you are going to try to lie you way out of that You originally said you’d admit you were wrong on Biden if the investigation didn’t find proof. You later creatively amended that to “echo” the investigation results. I’ve had basically no position on BLM. Your take was that they shouldn’t worry about a statistically small problem like police brutality. That was before you expressed phony concern about trannies abusing girls. I’d ask how you explain these apparent lies and contradictions, but answering simple questions isn’t your strong suit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So nothing from you as well I see I did not ask you to produce a list of mistakes. I said- forget the specifics of mistakes because it's not about what you or I perceive as mistakes of a candidate. You stated an important quality of being President is admitting mistakes. You said Kamala does not admit mistakes. I'm asking when Donald Trump has admitted mistakes. What don't you understand here? What language do you need me to type in so it makes sense to you? But I need to know if mistakes were made, then armed with those mistakes I can google Trump to determine if he ever apologized for mistakes. I gave you one, why do you resist coming through with said mistakes, so I can research? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, MDC said: You originally said you’d admit you were wrong on Biden if the investigation didn’t find proof. You later creatively amended that to “echo” the investigation results. I’ve had basically no position on BLM. Your take was that they shouldn’t worry about a statistically small problem like police brutality. That was before you expressed phony concern about trannies abusing girls. I’d ask how you explain these apparent lies and contradictions, but answering simple questions isn’t your strong suit. So let me know when the investigation concludes, I will echo the outcome as I committed to do, and I will retain my own position on it, as I stated. You can not like it all you want, but you do not get to dictate what others think and feel. I am not sure if you have a position on BLM or not, though they were rioting over that statistical insignificant thing you suggested you agreed with, and if they get hurt being stupid and violent, society wins, so yeah, totally good with it over here. No contradictions present, you just didnt get your entire way and are butthurt over it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: But I need to know if mistakes were made, then armed with those mistakes I can google Trump to determine if he ever apologized for mistakes. I gave you one, why do you resist coming through with said mistakes, so I can research? 2 questions for you: 1.) Do you think Trump's presidency was flawless? 2.) If your answer to the 1st question is no.....what mistakes that he made has he admitted to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 2 questions for you: 1.) Do you think Trump's presidency was flawless? No, of course not, no administration is "flawless" 2.) If your answer to the 1st question is no.....what mistakes that he made has he admitted to? I think his moves with regard to abortion were a mistake Answers embedded above. Now, I took the time out of my day to answer.....to provide you an example.....can you at least.....give me one.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, RLLD said: Answers embedded above. Now, I took the time out of my day to answer.....to provide you an example.....can you at least.....give me one.... Did he apologize for the mistakes on abortion? I may have missed it and will gladly view a link if you have one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,633 Posted October 17, 2024 24 minutes ago, RLLD said: I gave you a mistake with regard to Trump, so.....what mistakes would YOU point to as it pertains to him which he has not admitted to? If you cant produce anythig, then you seem to be suggesting he did not make any. 28 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Admitting he lost the 2020 election Although I guess this should be more properly worded as NOT admitting he lost the 2020 election Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,516 Posted October 17, 2024 I strongly dispute the argument that everyone seems to be implicitly accepting in this thread, which is that the Biden Administration’s decision to reverse Trump’s border policies when they got into office was a mistake. It was a good decision IMO, a moral one, even if it led to more border crossings. They should not have to apologize for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,166 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: So let me know when the investigation concludes, I will echo the outcome as I committed to do, and I will retain my own position on it, as I stated. You can not like it all you want, but you do not get to dictate what others think and feel. I am not sure if you have a position on BLM or not, though they were rioting over that statistical insignificant thing you suggested you agreed with, and if they get hurt being stupid and violent, society wins, so yeah, totally good with it over here. No contradictions present, you just didnt get your entire way and are butthurt over it You didn’t commit to “echo” the results of the investigation - you said you’d admit that you were wrong about Biden. You changed that to echo later, because obviously you intended to maintain his guilt regardless of the investigation all along. You have said that BLM doesn’t have a point because police brutality is statistically insignificant … before later expressing fake concern over trannies abusing girls, which is itself statistically insignificant. You struggle hard with the truth and maintaining a consistent position. That’s why I don’t engage with you seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Did he apologize for the mistakes on abortion? I may have missed it and will gladly view a link if you have one. Not that I am aware of, do you insist that he must? Has anyone approached him at any time and asked him to admit he made a mistake? And lets say he did admit it, then what? Now, if abortion is your "thing" and a line in the sand that dictates your assessment of him as a leader, by all means. If you insist that he must admit it was a mistake, then encourage someone to approach him with that...... but if no one has asked him if it was a mistake......or his response was something other than yes or no.....then I am not sure where you would take it. So.....back to it.....will you offer an instance where he made a mistake....or....how about this....will you offer an instance where he was questioned and refused to answer to his mistake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Although I guess this should be more properly worded as NOT admitting he lost the 2020 election Look at you, thank you....thank you....thank you.....finally a motherfocking adult shows up. I think your point on this topic has merit. This is not a bad fit at all. And I totally do not care about it, because it does not impact my life. Still, I am in your debt sir...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,949 Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Not that I am aware of, do you insist that he must? Has anyone approached him at any time and asked him to admit he made a mistake? And lets say he did admit it, then what? Now, if abortion is your "thing" and a line in the sand that dictates your assessment of him as a leader, by all means. If you insist that he must admit it was a mistake, then encourage someone to approach him with that...... but if no one has asked him if it was a mistake......or his response was something other than yes or no.....then I am not sure where you would take it. So.....back to it.....will you offer an instance where he made a mistake....or....how about this....will you offer an instance where he was questioned and refused to answer to his mistake? So he has not admitted a mistake thus making him unqualified to be President according to your definition.... Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,154 Posted October 17, 2024 5 minutes ago, MDC said: You didn’t commit to “echo” the results of the investigation - you said you’d admit that you were wrong about Biden. You changed that to echo later, because obviously you intended to maintain his guilt regardless of the investigation all along. You have said that BLM doesn’t have a point because police brutality is statistically insignificant … before later expressing fake concern over trannies abusing girls, which is itself statistically insignificant. You struggle hard with the truth and maintaining a consistent position. That’s why I don’t engage with you seriously. I can still type whatever your little hear desires, and as I recall I offered to you to present me with that which you needed to read.....that which would pacify you..... and I will happily do so, while I remain convinced that he is guilty as fock....just as I would any criminal that was let off..... Yeah, I look at my setup with you on the trannies as a big win. What do I care about trannies....... but you....you now are committed to not supporting the lie behind BLM.....I lost nothing in that deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites