Jury duty pay.

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She doesn't charge me $20 per hour. 

That's because you only take a minute and she prorates.

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She doesn't charge me $20 per hour. 

Unlimited visits for a fixed monthly price does reduce the average cost.

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She doesn't charge me $20 per hour. 

What's that coupon code?

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24 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Define "many".  Or are you including people being forced to take personal or vacation time in that?

My company does.  Jury Duty is a separate time off category just like Bereavement.  Neither count against PTO.

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Also California says they pay $15/day, but they don't.  When I was leaving they asked if I wanted the money or do I want to waive it.  I was like, "hell yeah I want the money," and they were supposed to send me a check, but I never got it.

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1 hour ago, purdygood said:

My girlfriend is currently on Jury Duty.  It's a DUI case involving being high on marijuana while driving.  The Prosecution said there is no way to test that during jury selection.  So it's her word VS the Officer.  My girlfriend is like" I wanna be on the jury, it's like being in a TruTV episode"  I was like "You want to miss your $20 per hour job for 3-5 days to make $15 dollars per day because it sounds fun?"  Ugh.

 Getting out of jury duty is easier a chubbier babe. In my younger years I was always up for sh!ts and giggles. I got out of the local parish ones. But I was fascinated by the federal trial system. Sat one or two. Then a couple of years I was called I for grand jury duty. It was trilple homicde involving a police officer. The DA said he definitely wanted  me and said this would take a week of your time. I called my boss and he said a day or two is fine, but not a week. He said “We really need you on this jury. But family and business comes first and foremost. And I was excused. Fun day being interviewed.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jbycho said:

Yeah. That's funny. I actually think, that most people are the other way in reality. Guilty until proven innocent. Physical appearance matters very much.  I guess it depends on the various demographics. 

They seemed to ask everyone a bunch of questions.  For me they were like, "occupation and age?" And then they moved on.  I didn't even get a chance to tell anybody a sob story.

I'm quite ugly and an engineer, so you'd think they'd want me gone, but I made it on.  I went in wanting to get the guy exonerated for his DUI, and I could have.  The folks on the jury were a bunch of pushovers I could've ran over, but he was guilty as sin, so I went the other way and steamrolled the two hold outs try to get him exonerated.

The last guy was adamant that he wasn't going to convict, and I said, "do you just want to come back tomorrow for the $15?" He turned beat red and switched his verdict 45 seconds later.

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37 minutes ago, Strike said:

A lot. 

Outside of government employees (including teachers, police, etc), I've literally never met a person who got paid by their employer, unless they took paid time off.  In NJ, employers are required to allow people to take off for jury duty, but the employer does not have to pay them.  If you had 1 week of vacation and you were on jury duty for 3 weeks, you didn't get paid for two of those weeks.  Correction, for 2 of those weeks, you got $25 each.

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Just now, BunnysBastatrds said:

 Getting out of jury duty is easier a chubbier babe. In my younger years I was always up for sh!ts and giggles. I got out of the local parish ones. But I was fascinated by the federal trial system. Sat one or two. Then a couple of years I was called I for grand jury duty. It was trilple homicde involving a police officer. The DA said he definitely wanted  me and said this would take a week of your time. I called my boss and he said a day or two is fine, but not a week. He said “We really need you on this jury. But family and business comes first and foremost. And I was excused. Fun day being interviewed.

 

 

 

 

My Mom is retired, she loves Jury Duty.  She was on a murder trial last year.  They made the jury pass the "murder gun" around and hold it. hahahaha she had never held a gun in her life.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Outside of government employees (including teachers, police, etc), I've literally never met a person who got paid by their employer, unless they took paid time off.  In NJ, employers are required to allow people to take off for jury duty, but the employer does not have to pay them.  If you had 1 week of vacation and you were on jury duty for 3 weeks, you didn't get paid for two of those weeks.

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15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

My company does.  Jury Duty is a separate time off category just like Bereavement.  Neither count against PTO.

We do have top notch benefits that rival any fortune 500 company though.  

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5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

HEY LOOK AT ME!

We do have top notch benefits that rival any fortune 500 company though.  

Sorry, didn't see your response.  I get that, but I don't think that's "Many".  I think that qualifies as "some" or "a few".  I work for a company similar to yours, but we're capped at 5 days.  After 5 days, we need to take vacation time.  If we don't have any, we don't get paid.  That's an outlier though.  If I had to guess, I'd say 75% (minimum), of people get paid unless they take heir own time.

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10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Outside of government employees (including teachers, police, etc), I've literally never met a person who got paid by their employer, unless they took paid time off.  In NJ, employers are required to allow people to take off for jury duty, but the employer does not have to pay them.  If you had 1 week of vacation and you were on jury duty for 3 weeks, you didn't get paid for two of those weeks.  Correction, for 2 of those weeks, you got $25 each.

Of my last four jobs at least two of them paid me my regular salary for the time I was on jury duty with no limits.  I don't know about my current job.  The commonality amongst the jobs that did is they are Fortune 500 companies.  Large corporations usually have better benefits than small companies.  Heck, one of them gives two days of bereavement leave......for your pet.

Note that I said many.  Not necessarily a majority.  I am sure most small businesses can't afford to do so or can't afford to be without employees for extended periods of time.  But in larger companies I don't think it's uncommon.

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Just now, Strike said:

Of my last four jobs at least two of them paid me my regular salary for the time I was on jury duty with no limits.  I don't know about my current job.  The commonality amongst the jobs that did is they are Fortune 500 companies.  Large corporations usually have better benefits than small companies.  Heck, one of them gives two days of bereavement leave......for your pet.

Note that I said many.  Not necessarily a majority.  I am sure most small businesses can't afford to do so or can't afford to be without employees for extended periods of time.  But in larger companies I don't think it's uncommon.

That's why I said "define many".  When you said "A lot", that doesn't fit either.  "A few" or "some" is a better adjective as this is probably less than 25% of the workforce... willing to bet its under 15%.

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12 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's why I said "define many".  When you said "A lot", that doesn't fit either.  "A few" or "some" is a better adjective as this is probably less than 25% of the workforce... willing to bet its under 15%.

If there are 10 million companies in this country and 1000 of them offer paid jury duty that is still many.  Additionally, large companies employ a significant percentage of our workforce.  And a good chunk of those larger companies are going to offer this benefit so the percentage of employees who have this benefit is probably much larger than the percentage of companies offering it.

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Just now, Strike said:

If there are 10 million companies in this country and 1000 of them offer paid jury duty that is still many.  Additionally, large companies employ a significant percentage of our workforce.  And a good chunk of those larger companies are going to offer this benefit so the percentage of employees who have this benefit is probably much larger than the percentage of companies offering it.

Ok, we'll just have to agree to disagree on the definition of "many".  That's fine.

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38 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Outside of government employees (including teachers, police, etc), I've literally never met a person who got paid by their employer, unless they took paid time off.  In NJ, employers are required to allow people to take off for jury duty, but the employer does not have to pay them.  If you had 1 week of vacation and you were on jury duty for 3 weeks, you didn't get paid for two of those weeks.  Correction, for 2 of those weeks, you got $25 each.

 

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

If there are 10 million companies in this country and 1000 of them offer paid jury duty that is still many.  Additionally, large companies employ a significant percentage of our workforce.  And a good chunk of those larger companies are going to offer this benefit so the percentage of employees who have this benefit is probably much larger than the percentage of companies offering it.

I'm pretty sure that every company I've worked for since graduating (seven, I think) has paid time off for jury duty.  These range from Fortune 100 public companies to two private companies with < 100 employees (the last one probably also did the pet bereavement thing; they had a lot of pet benefits).  Maybe it's the tech industry, or just generally having an "exempt" sorta professional career?   

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

 

I'm pretty sure that every company I've worked for since graduating (seven, I think) has paid time off for jury duty.  These range from Fortune 100 public companies to two private companies with < 100 employees (the last one probably also did the pet bereavement thing; they had a lot of pet benefits).  Maybe it's the tech industry, or just generally having an "exempt" sorta professional career?   

It's companies competing for in demand employees.  One of the companies I mentioned was a benefits consulting firm.  I was in IT but the company was a financial services company.  Companies that are significantly profitable and seeking highly desirable employees offer better benefits.  And this is one of those benefits.

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5 hours ago, Drizzay said:

Just say something provocative during Voir dire, then you don't have to worry about it.

I was called once.  Got to the point where they took us in a room.  Was asked if there was anything that would disqualify me from serving, without even knowing what it was about.  I answered that I support abolition of drug prohibition.  Was home 3 hours later.

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6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Funny timing, as I need to call tonight to see if I have to go in tomorrow.  It's not even the REAL (county) court, it's some muni court that I'm surprised I'm in its jurisdiction.  So if my memory serves from a brief time in a similar courtroom long ago (didn't pay to register a home alarm with the po-po), it will be mostly illegal aliens driving without licenses.

Also, this would be my first time going since my laryngectomy.  Part of me wonders if they would even consider me.  I should give some thought to any special considerations I would need, if any.  

Update$#@!

I don't have to go.  In fact, everyone called for tomorrow and Friday are released.  Maybe they'll just hang all of the accused?  Ya never know in AZ...  

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Just now, jerryskids said:

Update$#@!

I don't have to go.  In fact, everyone called for tomorrow and Friday are released.  Maybe they'll just hang all of the accused?  Ya never know in AZ...  

A lot of time the reason for having you call the night before is in case the trial doesn't happen.  It can be postponed, a plea bargain can be reached, etc......

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

A lot of time the reason for having you call the night before is in case the trial doesn't happen.  It can be postponed, a plea bargain can be reached, etc......

This was a call for a city/muni court; I don't imagine that there were any significant trials in such a jurisdiction.  Also, my experience in being called the the county pool is that they've got a series of potential juries, not a single case for which they would exclusively bring people in.

My guess is that they basically don't plan to call any juries in this jurisdiction for the rest of the week.  I guess it's possible that they already have prospective jurors, but AZ is pretty good in my experience of calling you done with your commitment if you aren't selected for a jury on your appointed day.   

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17 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

I'm pretty sure that every company I've worked for since graduating (seven, I think) has paid time off for jury duty.  These range from Fortune 100 public companies to two private companies with < 100 employees (the last one probably also did the pet bereavement thing; they had a lot of pet benefits).  Maybe it's the tech industry, or just generally having an "exempt" sorta professional career?   

I know people in the tech world as well and they don't get paid for jury duty unless they take time off... be it personal, vacation, bereavement, family leave or something else.  Walmart and McDonalds are Fortune 500 companies and they don't pay either, so not even all of them pay.  Amazon lets you file for a leave of absence... still, you have to wait a month (or more), to get paid, and they're another Fortune 500 company.  Those 3, employ like 5M people.  I know people who work for engineering companies, GIS firms, and alike and none of them get paid out of the companies pockets.  Again, that's why I said "many" isn't the adjective I'd use as it's ambiguity implies at least half or more and why I said "some" or "a few" would be better descriptors as I believe the vast majority of companies do not pay you.

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It's funny that I read this thread yesterday.  My wife just received a jury summons in the mail today.

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I'm sure she would say "you manifested it".  My girlfriend says that shizz.  So, it's your fault.

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

It's funny that I read this thread yesterday.  My wife just received a jury summons in the mail today.

 

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

I'm sure she would say "you manifested it".  My girlfriend says that shizz.  So, it's your fault.

 

It's the deep state monitoring what I do online.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

It's the deep state monitoring what I do online.

The deep state that keeps trying to sell me Trump Bibles and Trump Shoes on Twitter (X)?   No they would never.

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33 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I know people in the tech world as well and they don't get paid for jury duty unless they take time off... be it personal, vacation, bereavement, family leave or something else.  Walmart and McDonalds are Fortune 500 companies and they don't pay either, so not even all of them pay.  Amazon lets you file for a leave of absence... still, you have to wait a month (or more), to get paid, and they're another Fortune 500 company.  Those 3, employ like 5M people.  I know people who work for engineering companies, GIS firms, and alike and none of them get paid out of the companies pockets.  Again, that's why I said "many" isn't the adjective I'd use as it's ambiguity implies at least half or more and why I said "some" or "a few" would be better descriptors as I believe the vast majority of companies do not pay you.

Did a little research and you're wrong about McDonalds.  Now, when we talk about McDonalds we're talking about the corporation, not the franchisees.   I suspect you may be wrong about more than that but clearly you aren't looking at this from a fact basis.  For some reason you've got a bug up your butt about how many companies provide paid jury duty leave. 

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22 minutes ago, Strike said:

Did a little research and you're wrong about McDonalds.  Now, when we talk about McDonalds we're talking about the corporation, not the franchisees.   I suspect you may be wrong about more than that but clearly you aren't looking at this from a fact basis.  For some reason you've got a bug up your butt about how many companies provide paid jury duty leave. 

(says the guy who's been going on and on when I only said I think the word "many" isn't a good adjective)

LOL, whatever makes you happy.  

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32 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

(says the guy who's been going on and on when I only said I think the word "many" isn't a good adjective)

LOL, whatever makes you happy.  

Many is a perfectly fine adjective.  If I had said "majority" or "most" you might have a point.   But you focused to singularly on that one word instead of my broader point.  Here is my original post in it's entirety:

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Many employers pay you for your jury duty.  In most other cases financial hardships is a valid reason to get out of jury duty

The point is that for a lot of people it will be paid and, if not, one can easily get out of jury duty.  And that's 100% true.

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2 hours ago, Strike said:

Many is a perfectly fine adjective.

Like I said earlier, "agree to disagree".