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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The TimCast

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On the topic- I mean....isn't this what people wanted? Fair coverage of Trump? Giving him a chance?

if it was genuine, sure

not cause they are getting 28k viewers and panicked

always after the messenger, never the message

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

if it was genuine, sure

not cause they are getting 28k viewers and panicked

always after the messenger, never the message

Morning Joe is watched by like 900K to 1 mlilion viewers. 

And yes- I am mocking how you are still devoted to this guy even after he was shown to be a shill of some kind. Also, your thread here seems to be attacking the messenger and not the message. 

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They called him Hitler, a fascist, and a threat to democracy.  Did they apologize for lying to the American people? Have they apologized for blatantly spreading misinformation?

They should start there.

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Old media in bed with the political establishment parroting all their views is a dead business model.  

Alternative independant media like Timcast is the future.   People like Rogan, Tucker, and Megyn have more influence than network news and newspapers.

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3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Old media in bed with the political establishment parroting all their views is a dead business model.  

Alternative independant media like Timcast is the future.   People like Rogan, Tucker, and Megyn have more influence than network news and newspapers.

The new president and his team is apart of that political establishment, can’t be trusted? 

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5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Old media in bed with the political establishment parroting all their views is a dead business model.  

Alternative independant media like Timcast is the future.   People like Rogan, Tucker, and Megyn have more influence than network news and newspapers.

Are you talking independent as far as content or independent as far as self funded?

Cause a lot of those people you mention have some big money and big companies behind them providing a platform and infrastructure. 

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11 minutes ago, weepaws said:

The new president and his team is apart of that political establishment, can’t be trusted? 

This is pure ignorance of what the political establishment is.   Seriously ignorant. 

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I’d like MSNBC to die.

And that’s a real possibility.

Problem is, Fox News etc will live on. But the answer isn’t to be just like them, only the opposite.

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11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Are you talking independent as far as content or independent as far as self funded?

Cause a lot of those people you mention have some big money and big companies behind them providing a platform and infrastructure. 

No, you do not understand what the competing forces and motives and agenda are.  I have only explained it 1000 times on this forum.  

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Just now, jonmx said:

No, you do not understand what the competing forces and motives and agenda are.  I have only explained it 1000 times on this forum.  

Explained what 1000 times? 

Look every media company and every person in media has an agenda- whether they agree with your point of view or not. 

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36 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Morning Joe is watched by like 900K to 1 mlilion viewers. 

And yes- I am mocking how you are still devoted to this guy even after he was shown to be a shill of some kind. Also, your thread here seems to be attacking the messenger and not the message. 

how is he a shill?

no I am posting the message MSDNC is dead

if morning joe is watched by 900-1mil, why did it only pull 28k?

 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

how is he a shill?

no I am posting the message MSDNC is dead

if morning joe is watched by 900-1mil, why did it only pull 28k?

 

When did it pull 28K? Where is that number at?

 

 

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

When did it pull 28K? Where is that number at?

 

 

from the weekend ratings in the video, I am sure you didnt watch cause TIMPOOL!!!!!! milquetoast news reporter

 

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I’d like MSNBC to die.

And that’s a real possibility.

Problem is, Fox News etc will live on. But the answer isn’t to be just like them, only the opposite.

 

Fox News and MSNBC were never opposites.   Fox News was the loyal opposition to the establishment narrative.  Fox News would take opposite sides on the wedge issues which were not important to the establishment.  This was only to give the appearance of having two sides while the real agenda of centralized power would continue to march on. 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

from the weekend ratings in the video, I am sure you didnt watch cause TIMPOOL!!!!!! milquetoast news reporter

 

Weekend ratings? Or week end ratings?

 

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44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

think most of MSNBC’s audience is exhausted right about now

What audience?!

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17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Explained what 1000 times? 

Look every media company and every person in media has an agenda- whether they agree with your point of view or not. 

 

NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, Google/YouTube, and Facebook had a coordinated agenda to advance concentration of power to Washington DC and circumvent the Constitution.  The mainstream media was not a free press, but a propaganda machine for their big government puppet masters.  

I wish we had a media which had their own agenda (whether i agree with them or not) and would speak with various points of views and have a real debate.  Instead we had two fake political parties, we had a media which pretended to be independant, and we have been marching towards authoritarianism for decades.  Trump blew up the establishment control of the GOP and enough independant voices were able to rise up against the old media and big tech and break their grip on gatekeeper of the political narrative.  

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

weekend

 

Well using the weekend ratings for a show (that I believe is called Morning Joe Weekend but does not have the main cast on- perhaps they play some segments from the week) that is on 5 days a week is really kind of selective posturing. 

Nielsen has Morning Joe at 1.14 million viewers for the most recent full TV quarter which ran from July through September. It actually competes pretty well with Fox & Friends for the most part- even beating them in some local markets. 

 

https://www.outkick.com/analysis/top-25-rated-shows-cable-news-cnn-non-factor-msnbc-misses-maddow

 

Now I know Tim Pool says 28,000 viewers but that would be like giving the ratings for a July replay of an NFL playoff game and proclaiming that its actual rating. 

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1 minute ago, jonmx said:

 

NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, Google/YouTube, and Facebook had a coordinated agenda to advance concentration of power to Washington DC and circumvent the Constitution.  The mainstream media was not a free press, but a propaganda machine for their big government puppet masters.  

I wish we had a media which had their own agenda (whether i agree with them or not) and would speak with various points of views and have a real debate.  Instead we had two fake political parties, we had a media which pretended to be independant, and we have been marching to the beat of authoritarianism for decades.  Trump blew up the establishment control of the GOP and enough independant voices were able to rise up against the old media and big tech and break their grip on gatekeeper the political narrative.  

There is a lot of fan fiction in this.

Also, you ignore that the people you mention are owned or platformed by major companies. Spotify has its own narrative vision even while platforming voices across the spectrum. Vivent Media has its own narrative vision. Tenet Media had a narrative vision.

Every company has a narrative vision. They just want you to believe that their vision is better than the other guy's vision. But they still have a vision. 

You are marching to a different evil place. 

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6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What's wrong with Tim Poole?

he doesn't like the narrative from a moderate liberal

its not mainstream so its fake

I think Pool stole his girl or something

cause he never has commented when I post Jimmy Dore, Rogan, Pierce Morgan, or any of the other left leaning podcasts

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13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

There is a lot of fan fiction in this.

Also, you ignore that the people you mention are owned or platformed by major companies. Spotify has its own narrative vision even while platforming voices across the spectrum. Vivent Media has its own narrative vision. Tenet Media had a narrative vision.

Every company has a narrative vision. They just want you to believe that their vision is better than the other guy's vision. But they still have a vision. 

You are marching to a different evil place. 

I don't give a crap who is supporting whom.  Being rich or being backed by big companies does not make you part of the big government authoritarian machine.  Those who support an evil agenda are those who:

1.  Want a gatekeeper of all information which the public can readily access.

2.  Controlling what speech is heard and what speech is suppressed. 

3.  Controlling who has guns.

4.  Controlling the public narrative.

5.  Having the ability to have mass surveillance 

6.  Being able to raid political enemies by getting rubber stamped warrants 

7.  Being able to freeze financial accounts for whimsical reasons.

8.  Controlling who gets what healthcare.

9.  Stripping away power from local governments.  

If you think independant voices standing up for freedom is evil, I can't help such ignorance.  

 

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27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

There is a lot of fan fiction in this.

Also, you ignore that the people you mention are owned or platformed by major companies. Spotify has its own narrative vision even while platforming voices across the spectrum. Vivent Media has its own narrative vision. Tenet Media had a narrative vision.

Every company has a narrative vision. They just want you to believe that their vision is better than the other guy's vision. But they still have a vision. 

You are marching to a different evil place. 


 

 

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35 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

he doesn't like the narrative from a moderate liberal

its not mainstream so its fake

I think Pool stole his girl or something

cause he never has commented when I post Jimmy Dore, Rogan, Pierce Morgan, or any of the other left leaning podcasts

I notice you seem to be shrinking away from the 28K thing.

Simple fact- I respect Rogan's show because he is clearly doing his opinion and its clear that's what it is.

Pool tries to pass his stuff off as news. 

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44 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What's wrong with Tim Poole?

He's a douche who is giving his opinion and passing it off as fact. He is the same type of dipsh!t that dominates TV news channels from like 5pm on. 

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54 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I notice you seem to be shrinking away from the 28K thing.

Simple fact- I respect Rogan's show because he is clearly doing his opinion and its clear that's what it is.

Pool tries to pass his stuff off as news. 

spoken like someone who's never watched

he clearly states they are his opinions while reporting on what OTHER NEWS OUTLETS write or produce

 

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"MSNBC begging Trump to be friends"

No, they aren't - that is a lie.

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3 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

Fox News and MSNBC were never opposites.   Fox News was the loyal opposition to the establishment narrative.  Fox News would take opposite sides on the wedge issues which were not important to the establishment.  This was only to give the appearance of having two sides while the real agenda of centralized power would continue to march on. 

Jon, you’re nuts.

However, you also have your finger on the pulse of this country.

So I don’t know where that leaves us. Why don’t you tell me what the future holds for this country?

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48 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Jon, you’re nuts.

However, you also have your finger on the pulse of this country.

So I don’t know where that leaves us. Why don’t you tell me what the future holds for this country?

I wish I were the nut, but these bastards have meetings and the plot this stuff.  Unfortunately, the truth is even far nuttier than I know.  

We are in potentially very transformational times where Trump is going to try to turn the administrative state on to its head.   Decades of war-mongering policies where we murder leaders and prop up puppet governments will be halted.  The irony is the man the media equates to Hitler could transform many of the global hotspots into peaceful regions.   Of course the media will do it's best not to give Trump any credit.

Many of the blanket powers the federal government were given to fight 'terrorism' (but used on average citizens) will be reigned in and FISA warrants will become much harder to obtain.  

Social Media platforms will become much more open to diverse opinions.   Many of those subjects you believed were wild conspiracy theories, will be exposed.   The linchpin being the JFK assassinations, although what is actually revealed will probably be more of a psyop which will deflect from how deeply our government was really involved.   

The gender-craze will become a thing of the past.  A few of the radical states will try to maintain the lunacy, but it will no longer be a central issue.  Women sports will once again be women sports and women's prisons will be women's prisons.

Dealing with the immigration problem of the many millions of people brought in the last 4 years will be a very difficult road to navigate.  I hope the focus is mostly on criminal elements, but if it becomes too big it will be a real mess.  Trump needs to be careful or this could become worse than the summer of love.  

There will be a mass turnover in federal employment.  I could see 25 percent of federal positions to be eliminated.  There will be quite a few people fired for cause such as those employees who actively engaged in censoring speech or anyone who used government for political purpose.     The government is plagued with inefficiencies and over-regulation.   This will be a huge effort to fix.  

Our monetary system will need to be fixed.   We need to ween ourselves off of the debt-based currency which has enslaved the world to endless exponentially rising debt.   Not sure this is on the radar, but moving to crypto and some asset-backed money would take a lot of pressure off our rising debt problem. 

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50 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Jon, you’re nuts.

However, you also have your finger on the pulse of this country.

So I don’t know where that leaves us. Why don’t you tell me what the future holds for this country?

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2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

spoken like someone who's never watched

he clearly states they are his opinions while reporting on what OTHER NEWS OUTLETS write or produce

 

While getting simple facts wrong.....

You speak like a typical person who just wants to believe so bad you refuse to acknowledge where his faults lie

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11 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I wish I were the nut, but these bastards have meetings and the plot this stuff.  Unfortunately, the truth is even far nuttier than I know.  

We are in potentially very transformational times where Trump is going to try to turn the administrative state on to its head.   Decades of war-mongering policies where we murder leaders and prop up puppet governments will be halted.  The irony is the man the media equates to Hitler could transform many of the global hotspots into peaceful regions.   Of course the media will do it's best not to give Trump any credit.

Many of the blanket powers the federal government were given to fight 'terrorism' (but used on average citizens) will be reigned in and FISA warrants will become much harder to obtain.  

Social Media platforms will become much more open to diverse opinions.   Many of those subjects you believed were wild conspiracy theories, will be exposed.   The linchpin being the JFK assassinations, although what is actually revealed will probably be more of a psyop which will deflect from how deeply our government was really involved.   

The gender-craze will become a thing of the past.  A few of the radical states will try to maintain the lunacy, but it will no longer be a central issue.  Women sports will once again be women sports and women's prisons will be women's prisons.

Dealing with the immigration problem of the many millions of people brought in the last 4 years will be a very difficult road to navigate.  I hope the focus is mostly on criminal elements, but if it becomes too big it will be a real mess.  Trump needs to be careful or this could become worse than the summer of love.  

There will be a mass turnover in federal employment.  I could see 25 percent of federal positions to be eliminated.  There will be quite a few people fired for cause such as those employees who actively engaged in censoring speech or anyone who used government for political purpose.     The government is plagued with inefficiencies and over-regulation.   This will be a huge effort to fix.  

Our monetary system will need to be fixed.   We need to ween ourselves off of the debt-based currency which has enslaved the world to endless exponentially rising debt.   Not sure this is on the radar, but moving to crypto and some asset-backed money would take a lot of pressure off our rising debt problem. 

Holy sh!t.

You are JustinCharge aren't you?

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