OG Maga vs Maga tech bros

[thegeneral 2,953]

Jobs that are ok for immigrants to take under Trump. List so far:

- tech work

- seasonal hotel work*

- trophy wives*

- head of DOGE
 

*indicates part time, highly contractual.

[MDC 7,152]

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Jobs that are ok for immigrants to take under Trump. List so far:

- tech work

- seasonal hotel work

Head of the Department of Government Efficiency. 

Trophy wife.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

25 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I don't partake in made up controversies.

This is going to be yours and your pals strategy for the next 4 years.  Make stuff like this up and act like's it's a real problem when in reality no one cares.  And then just keep pushing the fake controversy to make it seem like the administration has a real problem.  Y'know, kind of like last time. 

So you refuse to answer.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

5 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

So you refuse to answer.

I don't partake in fake controversies that you and your side makeup.

[thegeneral 2,953]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

Head of the Department of Government Efficiency. 

Trophy wife.

Good ones. Added to list. Trophy wife one is part time so will place an asterisk by that one.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I don't partake in fake controversies that you and your side makeup.

There is no fake controversy.  It's a real issue.

Do you support the expansion of the H1B visa program or not?

[jbycho 611]

4 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

There is no fake controversy.  It's a real issue.

Do you support the expansion of the H1B visa program or not?

Fake. And boring.  

[Cdub100 3,846]

4 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Would be interested to see what side you fall on given you are both of the OG hardcore racist America first magas but you're also tech bro adjacent with your crypto investing.

100% against H1B visas.

I worked at a software company that brought in these guys from India. 

They are cheaper because they do sh1tty work. 

The company would stack 8 men in a two-bedroom apt. 

They smelled because of deplorable hygiene. In turn, they would trash the office space because they are generally dirty people.

These visas take jobs away from Americans. There are better options companies can use to bring in the top .01%

 

[Cdub100 3,846]

It appears Musk has bent the knee.

https://media.scored.co/post/GW60x2cJzlUU.jpeg

[IGotWorms 4,057]

President-elect Donald J. Trump appeared to weigh in on Saturday on a heated debate among his supporters over the role of skilled immigrant workers in the U.S. economy, saying he had frequently used the visas for those workers and backed the program.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties,” he told The New York Post. “I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program.”

But his comments — which were enthusiastically embraced by the technology industry as an endorsement — may muddy the waters because Mr. Trump appears to have only sparingly used the H-1B visa program, which allows skilled workers like software engineers to work in the United States for up to three years and can be extended to six years.

Instead, he has been a frequent and longtime user of the similarly named, but starkly different, H-2B visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners and housekeepers, as well as the H-2A program, which is for agricultural workers. Those visas allow a worker to remain in the country for 10 months. Federal data show Mr. Trump’s companies have received approval to employ over 1,000 workers through the two H-2 programs in the past 20 years.

[Cdub100 3,846]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

President-elect Donald J. Trump appeared to weigh in on Saturday on a heated debate among his supporters over the role of skilled immigrant workers in the U.S. economy, saying he had frequently used the visas for those workers and backed the program.

“I have many H-1B visas on my properties,” he told The New York Post. “I’ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It’s a great program.”

But his comments — which were enthusiastically embraced by the technology industry as an endorsement — may muddy the waters because Mr. Trump appears to have only sparingly used the H-1B visa program, which allows skilled workers like software engineers to work in the United States for up to three years and can be extended to six years.

Instead, he has been a frequent and longtime user of the similarly named, but starkly different, H-2B visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners and housekeepers, as well as the H-2A program, which is for agricultural workers. Those visas allow a worker to remain in the country for 10 months. Federal data show Mr. Trump’s companies have received approval to employ over 1,000 workers through the two H-2 programs in the past 20 years.

Trump seemed to flip flop on H1B. He tried to get rid of it but it seems like he will try and reform the program now.

[thegeneral 2,953]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump seemed to flip flop on H1B. He tried to get rid of it but it seems like he will try and reform the program now.

He just says these type of things. Variety of industries use this - who he always caters too, he uses it in his own dumps, etc.

[jbycho 611]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

He just says these type of things. Variety of industries use this - who he always caters too, he uses it in his own dumps, etc.

I sometimes feel bad for you liberals. 

You should all go back to believing in getting yourselves educated. The real way. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

21 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump seemed to flip flop on H1B. He tried to get rid of it but it seems like he will try and reform the program now.

I don’t know why you continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m pretty sure he just rails against them while using them himself and keeping them in place for other billionaires as well

[Cdub100 3,846]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t know why you continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m pretty sure he just rails against them while using them himself and keeping them in place for other billionaires as well

Where am I giving him the benefit of the doubt? I just said he flip-flopped. 

This is why you guys can be so insufferable. Believe it or not there are a lot of Trump's policies I disagree with. Even if I agree with you, bash Trump, or our politics align you immediately go on the offensive. Why?

 

 

[peenie 1,906]

On 12/28/2024 at 10:54 AM, seafoam1 said:

You really sound not very smart talking like this. Do you even know the industry? I've been in it for over 20 years, challenge me with how many black people are controlling it over white people. 

And since you are so "equality" centric, why do you care about the color of skin? Are you a racist? 

You really sound like you can’t read, where did I write about Black people controlling anything??? I simply stated that where I work it’s heavily Asian meaning Chinese, Korean and Indian. There are Hispanics, white women and blacks. There are white men but mostly they are older and are retiring. My point was that Asians (both north and south) are the majority in my field. 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEIsew_xz8D/?igsh=ZWJzaW9sa2p2and2

[IGotWorms 4,057]

25 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Where am I giving him the benefit of the doubt? I just said he flip-flopped. 

This is why you guys can be so insufferable. Believe it or not there are a lot of Trump's policies I disagree with. Even if I agree with you, bash Trump, or our politics align you immediately go on the offensive. Why?

 

 

What leads you to believe he will “reform the program” in any way other than to make it easier to exploit?

I just don’t get why you think this guy is any sort of hero for the working man.

Not trying to be a d1ck but that’s the fundamental issue. He is a billionaire assh0le piece of sh1t. Why would he be anything else?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

There is no fake controversy.  It's a real issue.

Do you support the expansion of the H1B visa program or not?

It's a fake controversy ginned up by leftists to undermine the Trump admin.   No one cares or is falling for it.

Sorry, pal.  Try something else.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It's a fake controversy ginned up by leftists to undermine the Trump admin.   No one cares or is falling for it.

Sorry, pal.  Try something else.

Bro thinks H1B visas are fake

[TimHauck 2,633]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It's a fake controversy ginned up by leftists to undermine the Trump admin.   No one cares or is falling for it.

Sorry, pal.  Try something else.

Laura Loomer is a leftist?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Laura Loomer is a leftist?

Who the f*** is Laura loomet and who the f*** cares?  Is she a member of the Trump cabinet? Does she speak for half of the US?

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[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

5 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Bro thinks H1B visas are fake

Bro thinks H1B visas are controversy! 

[jbycho 611]

20 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What leads you to believe he will “reform the program” in any way other than to make it easier to exploit?

I just don’t get why you think this guy is any sort of hero for the working man.

Not trying to be a d1ck but that’s the fundamental issue. He is a billionaire assh0le piece of sh1t. Why would he be anything else?

I think it has been clear for a while now that you hate Trump and are trying your best to subvert and/or denounce his every decision or even his words, in your own small way, by calling him names and whatever else you post here. 

But the more you rail on about the guy you come across as a liberal lunatic and you hurt your own arguments because 80+% of the time you get it wrong. All because of your liberal BIAS. 

Think about it. Everything you say about Trump from this moment on, will either be wrong, misrepresented, or an attempt to spread hate. Because that is in your ingrained pattern. 

You have been doing this for months now.

Slow your roll. Take a break. You seem to be past the point of no return on your TDS. And that's not a good sign for anyone. Especially for  yourself. 

 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

Just now, jbycho said:

I think it has been clear for a while now that you hate Trump and are trying your best to subvert and/or denounce his every decision or even his words, in your own small way, by calling him names and whatever else you post here. 

But the more you rail on about the guy you come across as a liberal lunatic and you hurt your own arguments because 80+% of the time you get it wrong. All because of your liberal BIAS. 

Think about it. Everything you say about Trump from this moment on, will either be wrong, misrepresented, or an attempt to spread hate. Because that is your ingrained pattern. 

You have been doing this for months now.

Slow your roll. Take a break. You seem to be past the point of no return on your TDS. And that's not a good sign for anyone. Especially for  yourself. 

This is basically the same stuff they've accused him of doing from the last time, which he never did.  In fact, it turned out that the Democrats were doing exactly everything they were accusing him of doing. 

 

[jbycho 611]

6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

This is basically the same stuff they've accused him of doing from the last time, which he never did.  In fact, it turned out that the Democrats were doing exactly everything they were accusing him of doing. 

 

This right here sums up the democrat media approach for the past 10+ years now. 

You can 100% be sure if a liberal democrat accuses someone of something bad, they are recently guilty of it themselves. 100%.

[TimHauck 2,633]

12 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Who the f*** is Laura loomet and who the f*** cares?  Is she a member of the Trump cabinet? Does she speak for half of the US?

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She was a personal guest of Trump’s at events and most likely focked him.  She doesn’t speak for half of the US, but she was really the one that started this “controversy,” that many other MAGA folk agree with her on

[jonmx 2,424]

5 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Keep bootlicking for Trump and President Musk.

You are one stupid MFer.

[jbycho 611]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She was a personal guest of Trump’s at events and most likely focked him.  She doesn’t speak for half of the US, but she was really the one that started this “controversy,” that many other MAGA folk agree with her on

So, this is your inane input on the topic? 

Why do you liberals hate being educated so much? 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

She was a personal guest of Trump’s at events and most likely focked him.  She doesn’t speak for half of the US, but she was really the one that started this “controversy,” that many other MAGA folk agree with her on

So she's not part of Trump's cabinet OR admin and doesn't speak for conservatives but ya'll decided to run with this anyways?  That'd be like you saying something stupid and conservatives running with it and saying "it's a real problem and controversy for the left!".

Again, fake controversies is what we're going to see leftists and leftists media use to undermine the admin from the start.  Par for the course.  I can see Phantom's Tantrum falling for this, but I hold you in higher regard than that fool.  

Free your mind, Tim.  I have hope for you. 

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So she's not part of Trump's cabinet OR admin and doesn't speak for conservatives but ya'll decided to run with this anyways?  That'd be like you saying something stupid and conservatives running with it and saying "it's a real problem and controversy for the left!".

Again, fake controversies is what we're going to see leftists and leftists media use to undermine the admin from the start.  Par for the course.  I can see Phantom's Tantrum falling for this, but I hold you in higher regard than that fool.  

Free your mind, Tim.  I have hope for you. 

Steve Bannon agrees.  You ever hear of Steve Bannon?  He's only the guy that made trump, wrote his speeches and drove his first term agenda.

When you've lost Steve Bannon you're in trouble.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

2 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Steve Bannon agrees.  You ever hear of Steve Bannon?  He's only the guy that made trump, wrote his speeches and drove his first term agenda.

When you've lost Steve Bannon you're in trouble.

Keep slurping the fake controversies at the lefty glory hole!   

I know you're having a hard time with Trumpslide 2024!  Stop it.  Get some help.

 

[Horseman 2,376]

3 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

When you've lost Steve Bannon you're in trouble.

Trump broke you.  

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[thegeneral 2,953]

2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It's a fake controversy ginned up by leftists to undermine the Trump admin.   No one cares or is falling for it.

Sorry, pal.  Try something else.

Quite a few people care about the use of these type of Visas. Trump was saying he was going to do away with them in his first campaign. Had an executive order related to them. 

His DOGE guy is saying people who oppose them need to be removed from the party.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Trump broke you.  

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he's so desperate in his cope.  Ginning up fake controversies is all he has left of his sanity. 

You know you've lost when you have to resort to Trump's first term to try and prove a failed point. 

Bannon hasn't been a thing for 6 or 7 years now, but OMG!  STEVE BANNON!   

[Horseman 2,376]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

he's so desperate in his cope.  Ginning up fake controversies is all he has left of his sanity. 

You know you've lost when you have to resort to Trump's first term to try and prove a failed point. 

Bannon hasn't been a thing for 6 or 7 years now, but OMG!  STEVE BANNON!   

Trump fired him in 2017.  7+ years ago.  

You've lost Steve Bannon!!!!!  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Trump fired him in 2017.  7+ years ago.  

You've lost Steve Bannon!!!!!  

OMG!  OMG!  OMG!  OMG

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,863]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Quite a few people care about the use of these type of Visas. Trump was saying he was going to do away with them in his first campaign. Had an executive order related to them. 

His DOGE guy is saying people who oppose them need to be removed from the party.

No one cares but you leftists who gin up fake controversies in your Trumpslide 2024 Cope Tour!!!! 

I'll let you have the last word, lastWordGuy. 

[TimHauck 2,633]

18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So she's not part of Trump's cabinet OR admin and doesn't speak for conservatives but ya'll decided to run with this anyways?  That'd be like you saying something stupid and conservatives running with it and saying "it's a real problem and controversy for the left!".

Again, fake controversies is what we're going to see leftists and leftists media use to undermine the admin from the start.  Par for the course.  I can see Phantom's Tantrum falling for this, but I hold you in higher regard than that fool.  

Free your mind, Tim.  I have hope for you. 

Sure libs are playing it up and laughing at the in-fighting, but It’s not a fake controversy and was in fact started amongst conservatives, namely Loomer.  I think you said you don’t follow social media but there were quite a few prominent conservative social media personalities arguing about it.   Several of them even called out that they didn’t like Loomer but that they agreed with her on this issue.

I would liken it to the topic of getting rid of birthright citizenship.  Obviously H1B visas have been around for years, but considering the whole “America first” agenda, seems like a fair question to ask if Trump plans on changing anything about them especially since he was apparently in favor of getting rid of them during his first term.

[The Phantom's Phantom 253]

18 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

he's so desperate in his cope.  Ginning up fake controversies is all he has left of his sanity. 

You know you've lost when you have to resort to Trump's first term to try and prove a failed point. 

Bannon hasn't been a thing for 6 or 7 years now, but OMG!  STEVE BANNON!   

You are utterly clueless or a troll.  Either way a waste of time to reply to.

[thegeneral 2,953]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

No one cares but you leftists who gin up fake controversies in your Trumpslide 2024 Cope Tour!!!! 

I'll let you have the last word, lastWordGuy. 

You think there aren’t a shitload of MAGAs who care about immigrants coming in and taking jobs at cheaper wages. Oh ok!