Trump cutting funding to South Africa

[squistion 1,944]

Because they are "treating certain classes of people VERY BADLY"

Translation: Certain classes = White people.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trump-cut-off-all-future-funding-south-africa-2025-02-02/

Trump to cut off funding for South Africa over expropriation act

WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday, without citing evidence, that "certain classes of people" in South Africa were being treated "very badly" and that he would cut off funding for the country until the matter is investigated.

 

"South Africa is confiscating land, and treating certain classes of people VERY BADLY," Trump said in a Truth Social post.

 

"The United States won't stand for it, we will act. Also, I will be cutting off all future funding to South Africa until a full investigation of this situation has been completed!" he said.

 

The United States obligated nearly $440 million in assistance to South Africa in 2023, the most recent U.S. government data showed.

 

Last month South African President Cryil Ramaphosa signed into law a bill that would make it easier for the state to expropriate land in the public interest.

 

The law aims to address racial disparities in land ownership that persist three decades after apartheid's demise in 1994.

 

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[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

How are they being treated ?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,829]

Seems like great news.  S.Africa is what "DEI" looks like when it gets full power.  It's not about equality, it's about revenge.  Turns out those calling for equality are just as racist as those they accuse. 

S.Africa is where America is headed until we root out all of those racists DEI practices, along with any equity-based policies as well.

[CaptainObvious1 323]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

Translation: Certain classes = White people.

 

That's an interesting spin you put on things.

[Mike Hunt 261]

Sounds like a good move. Government out of control taking land

 

 

 Last month South African President Cryil Ramaphosa signed into law a bill that would allow the state to expropriate any land in the public interest.8 hours ago

[squistion 1,944]

It appears that Musk convinced Trump to cut aid to South Africa because Black South Africans are getting too uppity. 

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1886209805653623152 (video clip at link)

Trump on South Africa:

"Terrible things are happening in South Africa ... they're confiscating land and actually they're doing things that are perhaps far worse than that."

[Mike Hunt 261]

7 minutes ago, squistion said:

It appears that Musk convinced Trump to cut aid to South Africa because Black South Africans are getting too uppity. 

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1886209805653623152 (video clip at link)

Trump on South Africa:

"Terrible things are happening in South Africa ... they're confiscating land and actually they're doing things that are perhaps far worse than that."

Is the government taking privately owned land or not?

[squistion 1,944]

30 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

Is the government taking privately owned land or not?

They have passed a law allowing them to do so.

Similar to Eminent Domain that we have in this country. 

[Strike 5,185]

47 minutes ago, squistion said:

They have passed a law allowing them to do so.

Similar to Eminent Domain that we have in this country. 

Not similar at all.  Eminent domain requires the government to pay fair value for the land.  This law allows the government to take it for free. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

48 minutes ago, squistion said:

They have passed a law allowing them to do so.

Similar to Eminent Domain that we have in this country. 

Only from certain people. You’re good with it. 

[CaptainObvious1 323]

I still don't understand Squis bringing in white people to this thread.  Is he just distorting the facts to create another race boogeyman?

[thegeneral 2,889]

President Elon pulling the strings of his puppet. Amazing what a quarter of a billion can buy you.

[squistion 1,944]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

President Elon pulling the strings of his puppet. Amazing what a quarter of a billion can buy you.

Exactly. Did Trump pay any attention at all to South Africa from 2016 to 2020? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Libtards now complaining about someone pulling the strings of the president. Too funny. Child like.  

[TrailGuy 552]

President Musk owns lil Donny 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Elon= Rasputin.

[jbycho 582]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Because they are "treating certain classes of people VERY BADLY"

Translation: Certain classes = White people.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/trump-cut-off-all-future-funding-south-africa-2025-02-02/

Trump to cut off funding for South Africa over expropriation act

WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday, without citing evidence, that "certain classes of people" in South Africa were being treated "very badly" and that he would cut off funding for the country until the matter is investigated.

 

"South Africa is confiscating land, and treating certain classes of people VERY BADLY," Trump said in a Truth Social post.

 

"The United States won't stand for it, we will act. Also, I will be cutting off all future funding to South Africa until a full investigation of this situation has been completed!" he said.

 

The United States obligated nearly $440 million in assistance to South Africa in 2023, the most recent U.S. government data showed.

 

Last month South African President Cryil Ramaphosa signed into law a bill that would make it easier for the state to expropriate land in the public interest.

 

The law aims to address racial disparities in land ownership that persist three decades after apartheid's demise in 1994.

 

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Does it matter what race is being treated poorly to take a stance on being against it? 

[squistion 1,944]

2 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Does it matter what race is being treated poorly to take a stance on being against it? 

When has Trump ever taken a stand on black folks being treated poorly in anywhere in the world?

[Mike Hunt 261]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

When has Trump ever taken a stand on black folks being treated poorly in anywhere in the world?

What country is getting aid from USA that is treating the blacks bad?

[jbycho 582]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

When has Trump ever taken a stand on black folks being treated poorly in anywhere in the world?

His last time in office. Even black people are migrating towards his leadership. He treated them EQUALLY, not EQUITABLY (if that's even a word). He doesn't treat them as lesser beings who can't take care of themselves like liberals do.

[squistion 1,944]

Just now, jbycho said:

His last time in office. Even black people are migrating towards his leadership. He treated the EQUALLY, not EQUITABLY (if that's even a word). He doesn't treat them as lesser beings who can't take care of themselves like liberals do.

Link to Trump taking a stand against black people being treated poorly his last time in office? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Libtards now complaining about someone pulling the strings of the president. Too funny. Child like.  

I do find that humorous.  We all know that behind EVERY president there's someone or some group actually pulling the strings.  People always look the other way (for some unknown reason).  But now, when we actually know who to hold accountable, there's a problem?  Liberals are very stupid people.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

Good. Fock South Africa. They are barbaric savages

[jbycho 582]

11 minutes ago, squistion said:

Link to Trump taking a stand against black people being treated poorly his last time in office? 

No. I'm not giving you a recent US history lesson. 

What is it with you liberals always being way behind on reality? You are tedious beyond. I'm assuming you are not a seven year old. Maybe that's my fault. Jeez. 

[The Real timschochet 6,405]

This is a very complicated issue and you need to go back even before apartheid to get a hold on it. But the basics are that when the Dutch and British settlers arrived in South Africa they took most of the land by force from the native populations, just as we did here in America. The difference is the natives there didn’t die off from disease.  Imagine if here in the USA our population was 10% descendant from immigrant and 90% Native American, and yet we (the descendants from immigrants) owned 90% of the land. That would be a mess. 

While I kind of know the history and the general problems that South Africa faces I don’t know the details of this act in question or how it will be used. There has probably got to be some land redistribution in that country, but on the other hand families (mostly white) who have owned land for centuries and developed industries that benefit all need to be fairly treated. So again this is very complicated. I don’t know if Trump’s move helps or hurts the situation. I suspect that it hurts it, and I’m suspicious of his motivations. 

[squistion 1,944]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a very complicated issue and you need to go back even before apartheid to get a hold on it. But the basics are that when the Dutch and British settlers arrived in South Africa they took most of the land by force from the native populations, just as we did here in America. The difference is the natives there didn’t die off from disease.  Imagine if here in the USA our population was 10% descendant from immigrant and 90% Native American, and yet we (the descendants from immigrants) owned 90% of the land. That would be a mess. 

While I kind of know the history and the general problems that South Africa faces I don’t know the details of this act in question or how it will be used. There has probably got to be some land redistribution in that country, but on the other hand families (mostly white) who have owned land for centuries and developed industries that benefit all need to be fairly treated. So again this is very complicated. I don’t know if Trump’s move helps or hurts the situation. I suspect that it hurts it, and I’m suspicious of his motivations. 

Trump's motivations are Elon Musk. 

[The Real timschochet 6,405]

But we need to be cautious of stereotyping. Liberals in this country, in reaction to this, are going to paint Musk and white South Africans as all racist and desiring to return to Apartheid. Trump and his supporters are going to paint the black South African government as all savage and attempting to steal land that doesn’t belong to them. Neither stereotype is true; stereotypes never are. 

[jbycho 582]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a very complicated issue and you need to go back even before apartheid to get a hold on it. But the basics are that when the Dutch and British settlers arrived in South Africa they took most of the land by force from the native populations, just as we did here in America. The difference is the natives there didn’t die off from disease.  Imagine if here in the USA our population was 10% descendant from immigrant and 90% Native American, and yet we (the descendants from immigrants) owned 90% of the land. That would be a mess. 

While I kind of know the history and the general problems that South Africa faces I don’t know the details of this act in question or how it will be used. There has probably got to be some land redistribution in that country, but on the other hand families (mostly white) who have owned land for centuries and developed industries that benefit all need to be fairly treated. So again this is very complicated. I don’t know if Trump’s move helps or hurts the situation. I suspect that it hurts it, and I’m suspicious of his motivations. 

Way off on your Africa history. The Europeans simply failed in the first place. That's why is was named "The Dark Continent" It:s not because of skin color, it's because it's pretty much impenetrable. Sure, they pushed their will into some places, but overall failed. NOTHING like what happened in this country other than the people who were here, and those there in Africa, were flat out savages. And here, the migrated indians were nearly 90% nomadic. They didn't claim territories. They simply slaughtered opposing tribes if they felt like it. And a lot of the same happens in recent history in Africa.

[The Real timschochet 6,405]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

Trump's motivations are Elon Musk. 

Not completely. Trump is sympathetic to any presentation of white people as victims. He always has been. 

[The Real timschochet 6,405]

Just now, jbycho said:

Way off on your Africa history. The Europeans simply failed in first place. That's why is was named "The Dark Continent" It:s not because of skin color, it's because it's pretty much impenetrable. Sure, they pushed their will into some places, but overall failed. NOTHING like what happened in this country other than the people who were here, and those there in Africa, were flat out savages. And here, the migrated indians were nearly 90% nomadic. They didn't claim territories. They simply slaughtered opposing tribes if they felt like it. 

I’m talking about the history of South Africa, not Africa the continent in general. Based on your post here you might want to read up on it. 

[jbycho 582]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not completely. Trump is sympathetic to any presentation of white people as victims. He always has been. 

So you think he shouldn't be sympathetic to victims if they are white?

wow. 

[jbycho 582]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m talking about the history of South Africa, not Africa the continent in general. Based on your post here you might want to read up on it. 

I know the history. You make stuff up to fit your racist views. 

[Strike 5,185]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a very complicated issue and you need to go back even before apartheid to get a hold on it. But the basics are that when the Dutch and British settlers arrived in South Africa they took most of the land by force from the native populations, just as we did here in America. The difference is the natives there didn’t die off from disease.  Imagine if here in the USA our population was 10% descendant from immigrant and 90% Native American, and yet we (the descendants from immigrants) owned 90% of the land. That would be a mess. 

While I kind of know the history and the general problems that South Africa faces I don’t know the details of this act in question or how it will be used. There has probably got to be some land redistribution in that country, but on the other hand families (mostly white) who have owned land for centuries and developed industries that benefit all need to be fairly treated. So again this is very complicated. I don’t know if Trump’s move helps or hurts the situation. I suspect that it hurts it, and I’m suspicious of his motivations. 

Another country pulled this same crap, took all the farmland away from it's farmers to give to black people, and watched the country fall in to a massive famine as the people given the land had no clue how to farm it.  Regardless, passing a law that allows the government to take land without compensation is disgusting, and we should not support a government that would pass such a law.  You always make things so complicated, and usually they're not.

[CaptainObvious1 323]

55 minutes ago, squistion said:

Exactly. Did Trump pay any attention at all to South Africa from 2016 to 2020? 

You have no issue with SA government stealing land?  You're just pissed it's Trump?

[The Real timschochet 6,405]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Another country pulled this same crap, took all the farmland away from it's farmers to give to black people, and watched the country fall in to a massive famine as the people given the land had no clue how to farm it.  Regardless, passing a law that allows the government to take land without compensation is disgusting, and we should not support a government that would pass such a law.  You always make things so complicated, and usually they're not.

Do you have any details on this law and how exactly it will be used? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

He’s not invading. He’s just not giving them anymore money. What’s the big deal? 

[Strike 5,185]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you have any details on this law and how exactly it will be used? 

ROFLMAO There you go trying to over-complicate this.  Just answer this one question - Under what circumstances would it EVER be permissible for the government to take someone's land without compensation.  If you can answer that we'll talk.  If you can't maybe sit this one out or choose the right side for once.

Oh, and @The Real timschochet, why aren't you calling out @squistion for spreading misinformation?  You're always accusing conservatives of not calling each other out.  And I believe you're against the spread of "misinformation."  If so, you should call @squistion out for clearly spreading it.  He posted a flat out lie and you just passed right over it........

[HellToupee 1,583]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s not invading. He’s just not giving them anymore money. What’s the big deal? 

It’s our money for cripes sake. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

Just now, HellToupee said:

It’s our money for cripes sake. 

These soyboy libtards are really working themselves up into a frenzy about the smallest BS. Meanwhile the swamp is actually being drained this time. lol. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,829]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

President Elon pulling the strings of his puppet. Amazing what a quarter of a billion can buy you.

Aren't you the same guy who voted for Biden?